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silverpig

silverpig

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MJinZ said:
No, you can't. The assumption is that the pattern reveals itself from two given examples. Since it is a multiple question, there is only logical pattern that can connect with the first two clues.

The problem with these tests is that you have go into the test and make these assumptions - because you to have assume there is a logical way to figure out the questions to begin. If there is none, then the test is meaningless.
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Uh, yes you can. There is nothing in the given pattern that contradicts my alternate answer. It is entirely consistent with the data given, and is just as consistent as what they want the "right" answer to be.
 
BeauJangles

BeauJangles

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silverpig said:
Uh, yes you can. There is nothing in the given pattern that contradicts my alternate answer. It is entirely consistent with the data given, and is just as consistent as what they want the "right" answer to be.
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Hence why these quizzes are silly and why things like IQ tests are absolutely meaningless.
 
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TheVrolok

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BeauJangles said:
Why do people join Mensa? To show off how smart they think they are?
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Yep. I just took the little "Mensa Workout" thing on the site where the OP got his riddle and while I aced it, it has less to do with being "brilliant" and more to do with pattern recognition and quite simply having done these types of questions a million times before. It's like studying for the SAT/MCAT/LSAT/GRE/etc.. you just need to study HOW to answer the type of question.
 
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TheVrolok

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silverpig said:
Uh, yes you can. There is nothing in the given pattern that contradicts my alternate answer. It is entirely consistent with the data given, and is just as consistent as what they want the "right" answer to be.
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Not true. Like it was said, in order to answer this question you have to be able to infer a pattern from only the two examples of object to the right, and then object below. This is all the data you have, so next logically it would continue in that direction and be to the left. You have to assume that what they have given you is enough of the pattern to follow it. If the pattern were to turn back on itself (again to the right) or repeat itself like you were saying then they would NOT have given you enough of the pattern to form a conclusion. I understand what you're saying, but you're incorrect when it comes to answering the question.
 
rockyct

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TheVrolok said:
Not true. Like it was said, in order to answer this question you have to be able to infer a pattern from only the two examples of object to the right, and then object below. This is all the data you have, so next logically it would continue in that direction and be to the left. You have to assume that what they have given you is enough of the pattern to follow it. If the pattern were to turn back on itself (again to the right) or repeat itself like you were saying then they would NOT have given you enough of the pattern to form a conclusion. I understand what you're saying, but you're incorrect when it comes to answering the question.
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The dot doesn't seemed to be lined up vertically in A from where it was in the first box so it moved both horizontally and vertically. The movement was in the axis perpendicular to the edge of the triangle. Of course, maybe that is what they are going for.
 
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Crono

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Mensa is for ego stroking.

Do they care if your understanding of English usage varies slightly from theirs?
 
silverpig

silverpig

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TheVrolok said:
Not true. Like it was said, in order to answer this question you have to be able to infer a pattern from only the two examples of object to the right, and then object below. This is all the data you have, so next logically it would continue in that direction and be to the left. You have to assume that what they have given you is enough of the pattern to follow it. If the pattern were to turn back on itself (again to the right) or repeat itself like you were saying then they would NOT have given you enough of the pattern to form a conclusion. I understand what you're saying, but you're incorrect when it comes to answering the question.
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It's like asking what the next number in this series is:

1, 2, ?
 
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tk149

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I came up with "post" within three seconds, but I've never really heard of "postbag".

Then I tried "mail" but I've never heard of "mailhaste," and "postbag" seemed more likely to be correct.

<- former MENSA member located in U.S.

Did I miss the solution to the weird symbol question? I was going with "a".
 
M0oG0oGaiPan

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digitalgamedeals.com
hyphen.jpg
 
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torpid

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I would have guessed "post" even though I've not heard the terms "postcode," "postbag," and "postbox." It works for the other two words and the other three seem plausible variations of known things. While I agree that it is culturally non-neutral, I don't see why you'd guess any other word.
 
MJinZ

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torpid said:
I would have guessed "post" even though I've not heard the terms "postcode," "postbag," and "postbox." It works for the other two words and the other three seem plausible variations of known things. While I agree that it is culturally non-neutral, I don't see why you'd guess any other word.
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True, guessing would have worked. However, since this was a quiz, I would have ran out of time if I kept on thinking.

In a real test, I would have just guessed "post" after coming down to the last 30 seconds on the timer, since it is the only word that works with Posthaste.
 
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ShawnD1

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Crono said:
Mensa is for ego stroking.
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This. If you're smart, show us how successful you are.

fuck
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You're on the right track. Fuckbox and fuckbag work great but we're still stuck on fuckhaste.

I'm surprised how many other people are guessing A for that question posted earlier. I was thinking about rotation as well.
 
daw123

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zinfamous said:
Mensa represents the scrapings of the High IQ club barrel. They're generally laughed-at by all the others.

98&#37; is weaksauce.

try 99.9999+%

http://www.eskimo.com/~miyaguch/history.html
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I liked the the fact that there may not be anyone in the world qualified to be a member of the Grail Society, although presumably Paul Cooijmans qualifies since he should know the answers to his own test. Seems a pointless society, which is probably why the website thinks it is a parody.

The Grail Society (1 out of 100,000,000,000)

Seems like it should be a typo, but it's not. That's right, the admission requirement for Paul Cooijmans's Grail Society is a whopping one out of 100 billion. This would be the smartest person who ever lived, and Paul's Test for Genius supposedly has the ceiling to identify this person. This is one one society that's not likely to have much political infighting.
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grrl

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Mike Gayner said:
I think their goal is to fill their organisation with people who have worldly knowledge, not arrogant shut-in Americans.
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Oh, the ironing.

Mike Gayner said:
FFS dude, everyone else in this thread is familiar with those words, even if they're not commonly used. Just face it, you're not that smart. And of course all of those words are easily and readily reference-able, whatever the fuck you mean by that.
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MJinZ seems unable to appreciate the difference between one's working vocabulary and general vocabulary knowledge.
 
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jackace

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IMO all these tests show is that a small group of people think alike and then claim they are smart.
 
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