This is just sad...

[Iron Woode]

while I feel bad for her and her family, she caused some of this herself. Posting naked pics of herself (as an early teen WTF) on facebook for some random guy and she wondered why she was having problems? I won't even get into the whole 'I care what facebook and the internet thinks of me' idiocy. And how, pray tell, did everyone find out about the bleach incident?

This whole situation is one big fail. I am thinking she had mental issues to start with. I also think most of this stuff could have been avoided if she would have asked for help when it first started.

 

[SandEagle]

In this case three crimes have been committed here. Possession of child pornography, possession for the purpose of trafficking, and criminal harassment. the first two are serious offenses. So whoever obtained and distributed the photos should be arrested and charged.

The lesson we should be taking away from this is to make kids more street smart. Don't talk to strangers, report suspicious behavior to Facebook/mods/authorities, and never post nude photos of yourself on the Internet. Parents need to make their kids aware of the dangers and have the responsibility to make themselves aware as well.

good call on the first two offenses, but the third i am unsure about.

 

[Iron Woode]

Teach your kid some fucking responsibility by being responsible yourself and you'll prevent this shit from happening.

what?

Parental responsibility? Instilling morals? Self respect and dignity?

Today's parents don't bother with that. That's what grandparents did. Today's parents get their parenting advice from TV and psychologists because they're experts on raising kids.

 

[D1gger]

Until I judged my children to be mature enough to handle the online world, their computer was in the family room so they were never alone in a room using it. We often talked about what not to share online, and what the dangers were. This girl's parents failed her.

 

[Krazy4Real]

That sucks.

 

[Wyndru]

What's sad is she felt comfortable enough on the net to basically broadcast her suicide.

And now that other kid shoots himself in front of the classroom.

I hope this isn't going to become a common thing, I know many kid have offed themselves publicly over the years, but I'm worried that the media making a big deal out of each case is going to give attention starved depressed kids bad ideas.

They showed a clip of this video in our middle school the other day. I couldn't believe it. I really don't like how this is getting sensationalized. What she did was wrong. It sucks, and it's sad, but we shouldn't be acting like she is helping the world recognize bullying...our schools are already loaded with anti-bullying campaigns. Too many of them in my opinion. We don't need it force fed to our kids, it only gives the kids more ideas, and over dramatizes the issue.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

This is the world we live in. Technology has only made bullying worse.

 

[Anubis]

And now that other kid shoots himself in front of the classroom.

I

whit what?

 

[Wyndru]

whit what?

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/11/us/north-dakota-school-shooting/index.html

 

[Dari]

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/11/us/north-dakota-school-shooting/index.html

Some people are just so selfish. It's like people that kill themselves by jumping in front of an incoming train, delaying everyone. Just do that shit at home.

 

[SandEagle]

looks like Anonymous may have found the perp:
http://jezebel.com/5952080/anonymou...an-who-allegedly-drove-amanda-todd-to-suicide

 

[Corporate Thug]

Being a new father with a 4 month old daughter...this just makes me sad. I think i'd go on a rampage if I ever found out my daughter was getting bullied.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/12/world/americas/canada-teen-bullying/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

Be prepared to go on a lot of rampages...bullying is as old as time.

 

[KeithTalent]

Be prepared to go on a lot of rampages...bullying is as old as time.

Yep, it just didn't always lead to a kid killing themselves, which of course speaks to bigger problems ,and therefore did not make it on the news. It is essentially the only news that is apparently going on up here right now.

KT

 

[rasczak]

Subpoena Facebook, round up all of everything that was posted, track down each and every idiot, and charge each one of them with capital murder, stalking, cyberstalking, assault and battery, child endangerment and anything else you could possibly make stick..

I wonder if that would get the point across?

While I agree with this, part of the blame needs to be on the parents for not reviewing what their child is doing online nor teaching them that what they do online can and will have a negative effect on them in real life.

 

[SandEagle]

Yep, it just didn't always lead to a kid killing themselves, which of course speaks to bigger problems ,and therefore did not make it on the news. It is essentially the only news that is apparently going on up here right now.

KT

i'm sure there were deaths, but they didn't have social media, internet to spread the news like wildfire.

 

[nehalem256]

i'm sure there were deaths, but they didn't have social media, internet to spread the news like wildfire.

More importantly they did not have the Internet to send naked photos to strangers.

 

[SheHateMe]

I have heard a few more details about this story that this girl wasnt as innocent as she was letting on.

For starters, she didn't simply "flash" anybody on her webcam..which she said sparked the bullying.

She actually was known for masturbating, flashing, and just being inappropriate via her webcam for any guy that would give her an audience. She also slept with quite a few guys from her school(s) which made her generally unliked.

That incident where she claims a bunch of girls came to her school and beat her up was because she slept with somebody's boyfriend...but also because of the reputation she had already.


There were tons of her pictures posted on a site that shall not be named that has been removed so far.



I feel bad that Amanda had to kill herself, but there are other cases of children either dying or taking their lives that get much more sympathy from me.

I can't feel sorry for someone that purposefully destroyed themselves.

My mother always told me that as a woman, two of the most precious things I have is my self-respect and my dignity. When I give that up, nobody else (male or female) will respect me either.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

How can people be this cruel?

 

[JimKiler]

looks like Anonymous may have found the perp:
http://jezebel.com/5952080/anonymou...an-who-allegedly-drove-amanda-todd-to-suicide

I am glad that article linked it to troll Violentacrez, I was just debating people here who call Violentacrez's action as victimless.

 

[JimKiler]

I have heard a few more details about this story that this girl wasnt as innocent as she was letting on.

For starters, she didn't simply "flash" anybody on her webcam..which she said sparked the bullying.

She actually was known for masturbating, flashing, and just being inappropriate via her webcam for any guy that would give her an audience. She also slept with quite a few guys from her school(s) which made her generally unliked.

That incident where she claims a bunch of girls came to her school and beat her up was because she slept with somebody's boyfriend...but also because of the reputation she had already.


There were tons of her pictures posted on a site that shall not be named that has been removed so far.



I feel bad that Amanda had to kill herself, but there are other cases of children either dying or taking their lives that get much more sympathy from me.

I can't feel sorry for someone that purposefully destroyed themselves.

My mother always told me that as a woman, two of the most precious things I have is my self-respect and my dignity. When I give that up, nobody else (male or female) will respect me either.

So she deserves to be told she should die because she sleeps with people? Lots of people do that and never get bullied like this. Also even if she slept with someone else's boyfriend, shouldn't he be 50% responsible? by that point she had zero self esteem.

 

[Anubis]

I have heard a few more details about this story that this girl wasnt as innocent as she was letting on.

For starters, she didn't simply "flash" anybody on her webcam..which she said sparked the bullying.

She actually was known for masturbating, flashing, and just being inappropriate via her webcam for any guy that would give her an audience. She also slept with quite a few guys from her school(s) which made her generally unliked.

That incident where she claims a bunch of girls came to her school and beat her up was because she slept with somebody's boyfriend...but also because of the reputation she had already.


There were tons of her pictures posted on a site that shall not be named that has been removed so far.



I feel bad that Amanda had to kill herself, but there are other cases of children either dying or taking their lives that get much more sympathy from me.

I can't feel sorry for someone that purposefully destroyed themselves.

My mother always told me that as a woman, two of the most precious things I have is my self-respect and my dignity. When I give that up, nobody else (male or female) will respect me either.

even if all of that is true it does not justify what happened

 

[OutHouse]

and this is why ALL social media is banned in my house. opendns.com and windows7 with parental controls turned on is a parents best friend.

"They wanted me to flash. So I did one year later," the cards said.

The teen then got a message on Facebook from a stranger who said she needed to show more of herself or he would publish the topless pictures he had taken of her.

"He knew my address, school, relatives, friends, family, names ..."

 

[OutHouse]

Possession of child pornography

if she was just showing "parts" with no sexual activity then its not child porn.

 

[BoberFett]

while I feel bad for her and her family, she caused some of this herself. Posting naked pics of herself (as an early teen WTF) on facebook for some random guy and she wondered why she was having problems? I won't even get into the whole 'I care what facebook and the internet thinks of me' idiocy. And how, pray tell, did everyone find out about the bleach incident?

This whole situation is one big fail. I am thinking she had mental issues to start with. I also think most of this stuff could have been avoided if she would have asked for help when it first started.

This. There's a lot of fail to go around. There's no excuse for whoever was stalking her, that guy is a piece of shit. As are the kids who were harassing her. But she really messed up. And continued to mess up. And her parents messed up. I feel bad for her to an extent, but a lot of this could have been avoided at many steps along the way.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

ah, right on cue. this is a precursor to internet censoring under the guise of cyber bullying. you heard it here first.

What, you think that's not already going on?

The fact of the matter is this kid would be fine if she had proper parenting. Low self-esteem and inability to deal with common social situations starts at home.

Bullying is just the extreme ends of a biologically innate social instinct.

Coddling "victims", raising awareness, instituting rules and laws, and the whole host of other cop-out garbage we try as a society will never ever work.

Bullying and suicide are unfortunate but natural human reactions to extreme stress, and all of it starts at home.

I'm not saying I have an answer. There probably isn't one because any idiot can have children. I'm just saying the problem is not what it appears to be, and the solutions societies generally try and employ only make things worse, and for everyone.