This is how I get 27 mpg+ on a car rated at 22 mpg

[miri]

Originally posted by: Baked
You're 10 miles away from work and you drive a fricking car?

Well it rained about 70 inches last year and since we dont have shoulders on our roads here, I would rather not be a dick and stop up traffic like every bike does here. You guys get mad at me for driving the speed limit in the slow lane, I wonder how mad you would get if I rode a bike on shoulderless roads and caused traffic to backup for miles.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix

Originally posted by: Specop 007
Heres my tip
Buy a VW Jetta TDI.
I drive it like I stole it and get 38+

Hope you enjoy your econobox peice of crap, and dont worry, we DO think your an ass for driving like an 80 year old parapalegic.

Troll much?

HAHA!
Be a dumbass much?
Scions ARE little rinky dink econobox's. Cute yes, but thats what they are.
If your REALLY concerned about milage, get a car that gets good milage. Dont buy a wanna be gas mizer then drive it conservatively to try to get better milage. I mean hell, you could drive a Corvette and get around that milage.

Shifting around 3000 in a tC is adequate to keep pace with traffic. You've obviously never driven one. And driving conservatively in any car help you conserve gas. You think you'd get the same mileage in a Corvette shifting at 5k?

In short, you're a fvcktard. Please drive your Jetta into the nearest brick wall. Or at least try to be funny while trolling, like Nebor. :thumbsup:

Dude, Miri already told us, Scions accelerate extremely quickly. He can hit 45mph in 7 seconds while keeping it under 3000 rpm. That puts his 0-60 time at WOT around 4.0 seconds. I get walked by Scions all the time in my Lighting. It's embarassing.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: Zontor
I think if they made all roads downhill then we could all save even more gas!!!!

Then I would push you down the hill.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: miri

You would be surprise at the number of people that shift at 4000-5000rpm and cruise at over 3000 and wonder why they get bad gas mileage.

I never ever shift under 4k. Usually around 4500-5000. If I'm in a hurry 6500-7000.

P.S. My car cruises around 3000-3500 rpm. At 70 on the highway it's closer to 4k.

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: miri

You would be surprise at the number of people that shift at 4000-5000rpm and cruise at over 3000 and wonder why they get bad gas mileage.

I never ever shift under 4k. Usually around 4500-5000. If I'm in a hurry 6500-7000.

Edit: Nevermind you drive a Miata

 

[Specop 007]

Originally posted by: railer
Layoff this guy.
I 'don't' think this is common knowledge to a lot of people. Keep your RPM's as low as you can (without going slow if you can help it) and you'll get better mpg's. I'm teaching my wife how to drive stick, and when I tell her it's OK to go 2nd right to 5th for example, she looks at me like I'm nuts. I can vary the mpg's in my Probe GT by quite a bit just by how I drive. If everyone in this thread already knows that, fine. But I'm tellin you all that a lot of people DON'T know that....just look around next time you go for a drive and look at all the stupid faces staring back at you...then tell me I'm wrong..

Oh and who's the idiot who's whining about the guy driving A CAR and being 10 miles from work? Troll I hope? I live 5 miles from work and I, of course, drive, as does everyone else.

My point in the whole deal is if your REALLY worried about milage dont buy a car rated at 22/29. Seems a bit pointl;ess doesnt it, to buy a car with an average rating then brag about how you eeked out 2 or 3 more miles per gallon by driving like a 80 year old.

 

[TheLonelyPhoenix]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
OH YOUR DUMB!!
Do you think a Scion will get the same milage shifting at 5k?
DUR!!!

Did I say it would?

Reading Comprehension > *.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: miri

You would be surprise at the number of people that shift at 4000-5000rpm and cruise at over 3000 and wonder why they get bad gas mileage.

I never ever shift under 4k. Usually around 4500-5000. If I'm in a hurry 6500-7000.

Thats because you drive a torqueless car

I don't need tons of torque when my car weighs 2350 pounds.

I also get consistent 30-33 mpg driving it that way.

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: virtueixi

Originally posted by: mwtgg

And you're the asshole I'm always cursing at.

And your the asshole I'm cursing at.

Go back to grade school while the big boys flame each other.

Thanks.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: miri

You would be surprise at the number of people that shift at 4000-5000rpm and cruise at over 3000 and wonder why they get bad gas mileage.

I never ever shift under 4k. Usually around 4500-5000. If I'm in a hurry 6500-7000.

Thats because you drive a torqueless car

I have three times the torque of a Scion. Your thread sucks, and you're trolling your own thread.

 

[Zebo]

That';s pretty crappy mileage fiqures for such a small car. I thought they got like 55MPG

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: audi
outstanding tips :|

You would be surprise at the number of people that shift at 4000-5000rpm and cruise at over 3000 and wonder why they get bad gas mileage.

Short-shifting with small throttle openings vastly increases pumping losses. The best strategy for fuel mileage is to short shift with large throttle openings. That is to say, you will get better mileage from flooring the accelerator and shifting at 2500 RPM than you will by easing into the accelerator and shifting at 2500 RPM.

Full throttle acceleration and shifting near redline yields approximately the same mileage as easing onto the accelerator and short-shifting.

Most people wonder why this is, but it's simple. The engine has to work incredibly hard to suck in air past the highly restrictive throttle butterfly. This energy that is wasted in trying to get air past an almost-closed throttle butterfly more than offsets the lesser fuel delivery rate of the injectors at low RPM. This is also the main reason why Diesels are so much more efficient than gasoline engines, a diesel has no throttle butterfly to restrict airflow into the engine. (Diesel fuel also has a marginally higher per-unit-volume energy content, but the largest factor in diesel efficiency is the engine's lack of pumping losses compared to an equivalent gasoline engine.)

Furthermore, most vehicles get peak fuel mileage between 35 and 40 mph. My big Lincoln with a 280 hp V8 gets 34 mpg at a steady 35 mph (it's in overdrive by that point, very low gearing). It gets only 27 mpg highway. If you're not stopping much but instead just driving at a constant, albeit low, speed, then you aren't going to suffer drastic mileage losses. The reason "city" mileage is lower is because of constant starting and stopping, not because of the speeds the car achieves.

ZV

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: Specop 007
My point in the whole deal is if your REALLY worried about milage dont buy a car rated at 22/29. Seems a bit pointl;ess doesnt it, to buy a car with an average rating then brag about how you eeked out 2 or 3 more miles per gallon by driving like a 80 year old.

Did you not read my original post? I bought my car last June. If I knew the current rate of gas increases I would have bought a different car.

If I could buy a different car now, I would have bought a Corolla, Civic HX or a Scion XA.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: Specop 007
My point in the whole deal is if your REALLY worried about milage dont buy a car rated at 22/29. Seems a bit pointl;ess doesnt it, to buy a car with an average rating then brag about how you eeked out 2 or 3 more miles per gallon by driving like a 80 year old.

Did you not read my original post? I bought my car last June. If I knew the current rate of gas increases I would have bought a different car.

If I could buy a different car now, I would have bought a Corolla, Civic HX or a Scion XA.

As someone else mentioned, you could have gotten a Corvette and gotten similar mileage. And then you wouldn't have such a torqueless car.

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: audi
outstanding tips :|

You would be surprise at the number of people that shift at 4000-5000rpm and cruise at over 3000 and wonder why they get bad gas mileage.

Short-shifting with small throttle openings vastly increases pumping losses. The best strategy for fuel mileage is to short shift with large throttle openings. That is to say, you will get better mileage from flooring the accelerator and shifting at 2500 RPM than you will by easing into the accelerator and shifting at 2500 RPM.

Full throttle acceleration and shifting near redline yields approximately the same mileage as easing onto the accelerator and short-shifting.

Most people wonder why this is, but it's simple. The engine has to work incredibly hard to suck in air past the highly restrictive throttle butterfly. This energy that is wasted in trying to get air past an almost-closed throttle butterfly more than offsets the lesser fuel delivery rate of the injectors at low RPM. This is also the main reason why Diesels are so much more efficient than gasoline engines, a diesel has no throttle butterfly to restrict airflow into the engine. (Diesel fuel also has a marginally higher per-unit-volume energy content, but the largest factor in diesel efficiency is the engine's lack of pumping losses compared to an equivalent gasoline engine.)

Furthermore, most vehicles get peak fuel mileage between 35 and 40 mph. My big Lincoln with a 280 hp V8 gets 34 mpg at a steady 35 mph (it's in overdrive by that point, very low gearing). It gets only 27 mpg highway. If you're not stopping much but instead just driving at a constant, albeit low, speed, then you aren't going to suffer drastic mileage losses. The reason "city" mileage is lower is because of constant starting and stopping, not because of the speeds the car achieves.

ZV

I have 24 stoplights in 10 miles. That doesnt qualify as city driving?

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: Specop 007
My point in the whole deal is if your REALLY worried about milage dont buy a car rated at 22/29. Seems a bit pointl;ess doesnt it, to buy a car with an average rating then brag about how you eeked out 2 or 3 more miles per gallon by driving like a 80 year old.

Did you not read my original post? I bought my car last June. If I knew the current rate of gas increases I would have bought a different car.

If I could buy a different car now, I would have bought a Corolla, Civic HX or a Scion XA.

As someone else mentioned, you could have gotten a Corvette and gotten similar mileage. And then you wouldn't have such a torqueless car.

Sorry but I also have rent and school to pay for.

 

[EyeMWing]

I could be in 6th at 45, if the ZX2 were a 6-speed

 

[miri]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: miri

You would be surprise at the number of people that shift at 4000-5000rpm and cruise at over 3000 and wonder why they get bad gas mileage.

I never ever shift under 4k. Usually around 4500-5000. If I'm in a hurry 6500-7000.

Thats because you drive a torqueless car

I have three times the torque of a Scion. Your thread sucks, and you're trolling your own thread.

Quit fvcking posting in the thread then, your as useless as tits on a boarhog. And here is a for your torque

 

[mwtgg]

Originally posted by: miri
Quit fvcking posting in the thread then, your as useless as tits on a boarhog. And here is a for your torque

/smacks miri upside the head with an English textbook

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Zebo
That';s pretty crappy mileage fiqures for such a small car. I thought they got like 55MPG

Hell no. It's a porker for a "small" car. Weighs 2900 lbs. Almost as much as my larger-sized Subaru WRX (and AWD adds 300+ lbs weight to a car).
It also has the same torquey 160hp 2.4L I4 as the Camry but with a very short 4:24 final drive ratio. That means it spins roughly 3k rpm at 60 mph in top (5th) gear. All that adds up to relatively poor gas mileage (about the same as my WRX which has 67 more hp stock and AWD).

 

[Chadder007]

I average 22 mpg in my BMW Z4 3.0

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: miri

Originally posted by: audi
outstanding tips :|

You would be surprise at the number of people that shift at 4000-5000rpm and cruise at over 3000 and wonder why they get bad gas mileage.

Short-shifting with small throttle openings vastly increases pumping losses. The best strategy for fuel mileage is to short shift with large throttle openings. That is to say, you will get better mileage from flooring the accelerator and shifting at 2500 RPM than you will by easing into the accelerator and shifting at 2500 RPM.

Full throttle acceleration and shifting near redline yields approximately the same mileage as easing onto the accelerator and short-shifting.

Most people wonder why this is, but it's simple. The engine has to work incredibly hard to suck in air past the highly restrictive throttle butterfly. This energy that is wasted in trying to get air past an almost-closed throttle butterfly more than offsets the lesser fuel delivery rate of the injectors at low RPM. This is also the main reason why Diesels are so much more efficient than gasoline engines, a diesel has no throttle butterfly to restrict airflow into the engine. (Diesel fuel also has a marginally higher per-unit-volume energy content, but the largest factor in diesel efficiency is the engine's lack of pumping losses compared to an equivalent gasoline engine.)

Furthermore, most vehicles get peak fuel mileage between 35 and 40 mph. My big Lincoln with a 280 hp V8 gets 34 mpg at a steady 35 mph (it's in overdrive by that point, very low gearing). It gets only 27 mpg highway. If you're not stopping much but instead just driving at a constant, albeit low, speed, then you aren't going to suffer drastic mileage losses. The reason "city" mileage is lower is because of constant starting and stopping, not because of the speeds the car achieves.

ZV

I have 24 stoplights in 10 miles. That doesnt qualify as city driving?

Might I recommend a course in reading comprehension? You seem to need one.

I offered a hypothesis given the fact that you had listed nothing more than distance and speed as your factors for qualifying your driving as "city". The post of yours which I am quoting here is the _only_ time in this thread that you mention even one stoplight. Nowhere did I even imply that your driving couldn't be "city". Rather, I made the appropriate and truthful point that, if there weren't stoplights, it wouldn't be "city" driving.

I do appreciate your sarcastic, know-it-all tone though. Keep it up, I'm sure that it will make you very popular in life.

ZV

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Nebor
As someone else mentioned, you could have gotten a Corvette and gotten similar mileage. And then you wouldn't have such a torqueless car.

Quit trolling, eh? For a 2.4L I4, the tC has relatively boatloads of torque. It's relatively poor gas mileage is mostly because of its gear ratios. In order to get the Corvette's EPA rated mileage, you have to drive it like a grandma. As soon as you drive it the way it's meant to be driven (hopefully on the track), the Corvette's mileage drops to the single digits.

And considering that one could buy about 3 tC's for the price of a single Corvette, I'd say he's still saving money with the tC even if it got 5mpg.

 

[deftron]

Damn .. my V8 firebird got close to 22 mpg

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Chadder007
I average 22 mpg in my BMW Z4 3.0

I'll sleep with you because of your car.

I love Z4s. And someone that would own one is just... sexy.