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OutHouse

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Originally posted by: stinkynathan
Our state legislature (south dakota) is working on a law that would ban protests such as this at funerals and a couple other events.

This came after another soldier of ours was killed in Iraq and there were people protesting at the funeral with "IEDs are great!" signs.

Not sure how I stand on the issue yet but I guess someone is working on making it happen in our state.

:| if i saw that i would definatly start a fight and happily go to jail for assault.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

At a certain point I think one should stop using the :roll: and start using the :laugh:.
 

DVK916

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

The first amendment allows these groups to exsist. They allow them to thrive. The bill of rights is one of the worst things in our law. Believe me the world would be a better place if we changed the bill of rights and banned speach like this.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

At a certain point I think one should stop using the :roll: and start using the :laugh:.

True true :laugh:

Little does the troll seem to realize that he and Phelps are two of a kind with their senseless hatred, bigotry, and need to control the lives of others.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

The first amendment allows these groups to exsist. They allow them to thrive. The bill of rights is one of the worst things in our law. Believe me the world would be a better place if we changed the bill of rights and banned speach like this.

The 1st Amendment allows you to exist and thrive on internet messageboards. And believe me this would be a better place without foolish trolls like you. But I respect the wisdom in our law and our Bill of Rights that allows people like you and Phelps to make utter fools of yourselves.
 

Ilmater

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I don't see why killing is ALWAYS illegal. I mean, you'd have to ask like a panel of judges first, but let's be honest: the whole world would be better off if we just ran these people over. Seriously. We're not missing anything here.
 

DAGTA

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

The first amendment allows these groups to exsist. They allow them to thrive. The bill of rights is one of the worst things in our law. Believe me the world would be a better place if we changed the bill of rights and banned speach like this.

You know, you could simply move to another country that has laws more to your liking. Perhaps China?
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: shortylickens
It has little to do with this country.
Organized religion is more evil and destructive than anything else in the world.
Thats the way its been since the dark ages.
Know why they called it the dark ages?
No, MAN can be evil and destructive. He can go about this path through religion, through government, or just being an ass as an individual.
There have been more than enough evils perpetuated in this world without the backing of religion (see USSR, Khmer Rouge, etc) resulting in the deaths of millions.
Saying that organized religion is the most evil thing in the world shows a particular level of willful ignorance.
Well, I suppose I could accuse others of ignorance to help blind myself, but I'm not that weak minded.
"More than enough" might be more than enough for you, but it doesnt change the fact that throughout history more people have been killed in the name of religion than any other cause.
The asshole individual is no excuse for all the horrible things organized religion has done, but (like most issues), defenders of religion are much better at pointing the finger elseware than accounting for their own actions.
By an amazing coincidence, republicans have the same skill. You wouldnt happen to be a republican as well?

Oh, I'm sorry. At what point did I say nothing evil has been done in the name of religion...oh wait. That's right. I didn't.

However, I'm not the one that said that organized religion is the most evil thing ever. You did.

I'll say it again since you fail at the reading comprehension - The evil in men's hearts can manifest itself through religion, through government, or through other means.

Simply put, organized religion is not the root cause of evil. Man is.

That's not excusing anything but pointing out a simple fallacy in your argument.
 

DVK916

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

At a certain point I think one should stop using the :roll: and start using the :laugh:.

True true :laugh:

Little does the troll seem to realize that he and Phelps are two of a kind with their senseless hatred, bigotry, and need to control the lives of others.

I am not some troll. I am serious about my beliefs. I find it sad that you don't understand the wisdom of my thinking. These men spread hate, their teaching corrupts the minds of others. They are a disease, and like a disease when they are cleansed the whole becomes better. I only want a better world.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

At a certain point I think one should stop using the :roll: and start using the :laugh:.

True true :laugh:

Little does the troll seem to realize that he and Phelps are two of a kind with their senseless hatred, bigotry, and need to control the lives of others.

I am not some troll. I am serious about my beliefs. I find it sad that you don't understand the wisdom of my thinking. These men spread hate, their teaching corrupts the minds of others. They are a disease, and like a disease when they are cleansed the whole becomes better. I only want a better world.
Like I said, you and they are two-of-a-kind. They only want a better world too, and likewise don't care about the cost.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: DAGTA
You know, you could simply move to another country that has laws more to your liking. Perhaps China?

Yeah, his dream is to move to North Korea. I don't quite remember what he said was stopping him, but I can imagine quite a few things personally...
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: RBachman
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Wow.. all the people arguing that they aren't Christians. If I belonged to a religion I'd definately want to belong to one that said "they aren't xxxx" about its unwholesome members! Or hell, why don't we just make criminals "not Americans". That would be a damn good way of reducing the crime rate among Americans to zero.

Like it or not, Islamic terrorists ARE Muslims, these people are Christians, etc, etc. Not only that, but they are acting in the name of their religions. You can reprimand them and say that they are not good Christians or Muslims, but you can't act like they aren't members of your religion, especially since their ideology COMES FROM religion.

Anyone care to explain why one poster said that calling them Christians is equivalent to saying that all Muslims are terrorists? Do I need to draw a venn diagram?


I hereby declare myself a Hollywood actor. I've never acted in any movies. I've never acted like an actor, but I say I am one.

Does that make me an actor?

I've read a few of your posts and come to expect a bit more than this, at least on this subject. You've already made this baseless argument and had a counterpoint brought up, only to make it again.

Because it's exceeding simple, which usually makes for the best argument. A person does not become a Christian simply by claiming to be Christian; same as a person does not become a firefighter (or insert any other profession) simply by claiming to be one.

Sadly, most people that lash out at religious extremists tend to be just as ignorant as the extremist.

They are members of a baptist church. Most Americans would consider them christians. Just because you don't like the practices of SOME Christians, doesn't make them any less Christian.

The Westboro "Baptist" Church is not listed as a member of the American Baptist Churches, American Baptist Churches of the West or Southern Baptist Churches.

Slapping the name "Baptist" on a church does not make your church an official Baptist church.

Here is a link to a church which is an actual MEMBER:

Text

You can't just become a baptist church really...it's a denomination and there are certain things that have to be done to be accepted. I guarantee that the WBC has not been accepted in any official form.
 

GregGreen

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Originally posted by: SampSon
The release states, ?God is laughing, mocking and deriding hypocritical i love you-infested West Virginia.?
The release also says the WBC will picket the funerals of the miners.
I think they have West Virginia mixed up with California.

Yeah, definatly. I think of rednecks and inbred people missing teeth when I think of WV.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: stinkynathan
Our state legislature (south dakota) is working on a law that would ban protests such as this at funerals and a couple other events.

This came after another soldier of ours was killed in Iraq and there were people protesting at the funeral with "IEDs are great!" signs.

Not sure how I stand on the issue yet but I guess someone is working on making it happen in our state.

:| if i saw that i would definatly start a fight and happily go to jail for assault.


These guys actually remind me of a "preacher" who would come out on the side of the student center at the University of Alabama and just go off on the wildest and most hateful things. Some of the most hilarious ones included calling all the Frat guys pornographers who sit around and masturbate all day long and Sorority girls whores.

I don't know what his purpose was other than to try and pick fights with students.
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: DigDug
Originally posted by: Cawchy87
The Bible also says not to judge others as that is God's "job." These people are fvcked up.

The Bible orders death to homosexuals:
Leviticus 18:22 "You [masculine] shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."
Leviticus 20:13:"If a man lies with a male as a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death, their blood is upon them."

So, in light of the Bible, who is the true Christian? You or them? Where is God's love, Hotchic, for all mankind?

Oh a few other fun facts...

Did you know the Bible also advocates the stoning on one's children if they repeatedly disobey:

Deuteronomy 21: 18-21: "If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son, who will not obey the voice of his father or the voice of his mother, and, though they chastise him, will not give heed to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, 'This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard.' Then all the men of the city shall stone him
to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear."

Did you know the Bible also orders the execution of adulterers:

Deuteronomy 22:22: "If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman; so you shall purge the evil from Israel."

Are those women in business suits ready for the hellfire?:

Deuteronomy 22: 5: "A woman shall not wear anything that pertains to a man, nor shall a man put on a woman's garment; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God."


So tell me? What does the Bible really mean for you? Its amazing how many "Christians" are around here who haven't even read the Bible. And for those "fvcked up people" who, in reality, are the more pious for actually following the wrathful writings of God, you simply label them as non-Christian. WOW.


umm it amazes me how christians pick and choose parts of the bible to follow and forget the rest. Besides all the burt offerings of bulls, lambs, sheep, rams, in your Leviticus quotes you forgot...

Leviticus, chapter 11
4: Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
5: And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
6: And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
7: And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8: Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

Rabbits do not chew cud and when was the last time you ate a clam, oyster, crab, lobster or shrimp? if you have, you have committed an abonination against God.

Leviticus, chapter 15
16: And if any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall wash all his flesh in water, and be unclean until the even.
17: And every garment, and every skin, whereon is the seed of copulation, shall be washed with water, and be unclean until the even.
18: The woman also with whom man shall lie with seed of copulation, they shall both bathe themselves in water, and be unclean until the even.
19: And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.
20: And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean.
21: And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
22: And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
23: And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even.
24: And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean.
25: And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she shall be unclean.
26: Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation.
27: And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
28: But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean.
29: And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.
30: And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness.

So God says a menstrating woman is unclean and sinful, Anthing that they touch is unclean. Anyone who touches anything that they touch is unclean. I particually dont get this one, God made woman and her biological functions how is a menstrating woman unclean???

Also show me where Jesus says being gay is a sin. Also the Bible supports slavery, there are many many verses about when and how to beat a slave, but we dont follow that anymore do we? I guess we are not christians then.

What are some other Bible commentaries concerning slavery? Peter, Jesus' favorite disciple, directs slaves to obey and fear their master without question, even though he may be cruel and unjust (1 Peter 2:18). This directive is repeated in Ephesians 6:5. In Exodus 21:26-27 and Proverbs 29:19 God tells the masters how to punish their slaves. In Leviticus 25:44-46 God instructs his chosen people on how to treat their slaves. Here he sets a more lenient standard for the Israelite slaves than for those who are not Israelites. But, God is not totally without a sense of justice because in Exodus 21:20-21 he says that if the master beats a slave to death, the master shall be punished. If, however, the severely beaten slave lingers on for a day or two, the master is off the hook. God says in Exodus 21:28-32 that if an ox gores a slave, the ox's owner shall give the slave master thirty shekels of silver, and the ox shall be stoned to death. In Deuteronomy 20:13-14 God tells the Israelites what they should do with the inhabitants of a conquered city, "Whereas the men must be killed, the women and children are to be taken as the spoils of war." Presumably that gives the Israelites the green light to sell them into slavery.
 

Brutuskend

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As if Christianity didn't have enough problems, just what we need, MORE WACKO'S.

Not that I'm a practicing Christian, I'm NOT.

Mainly for reasons like this....:roll:
 

DVK916

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

At a certain point I think one should stop using the :roll: and start using the :laugh:.

True true :laugh:

Little does the troll seem to realize that he and Phelps are two of a kind with their senseless hatred, bigotry, and need to control the lives of others.

I am not some troll. I am serious about my beliefs. I find it sad that you don't understand the wisdom of my thinking. These men spread hate, their teaching corrupts the minds of others. They are a disease, and like a disease when they are cleansed the whole becomes better. I only want a better world.
Like I said, you and they are two-of-a-kind. They only want a better world too, and likewise don't care about the cost.


I don't go around preaching hate against those who don't deserve it. I speak the truth not hate. They speak hate, based on the rambling of some lunitic 2000 years ago. We are very different idiology. I want to end hate, they live to spread it.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

At a certain point I think one should stop using the :roll: and start using the :laugh:.

True true :laugh:

Little does the troll seem to realize that he and Phelps are two of a kind with their senseless hatred, bigotry, and need to control the lives of others.

I am not some troll. I am serious about my beliefs. I find it sad that you don't understand the wisdom of my thinking. These men spread hate, their teaching corrupts the minds of others. They are a disease, and like a disease when they are cleansed the whole becomes better. I only want a better world.
Like I said, you and they are two-of-a-kind. They only want a better world too, and likewise don't care about the cost.
I don't go around preaching hate against those who don't deserve it. I speak the truth not hate. They speak hate, based on the rambling of some lunitic 2000 years ago. We are very different idiology. I want to end hate, they live to spread it.
Now I laugh at you :laugh:

You don't spread hate? And yet how many did you say are to die for your ideology? Oh yeah, that's right... as many as are "necessary." And using as much force as necessary (your own words) to carry out your own little personal ideology isn't hate, is it? :roll:
If you are serious, you are a fool. And a low-IQ moronic fool at that.
 

OdiN

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

At a certain point I think one should stop using the :roll: and start using the :laugh:.

True true :laugh:

Little does the troll seem to realize that he and Phelps are two of a kind with their senseless hatred, bigotry, and need to control the lives of others.

I am not some troll. I am serious about my beliefs. I find it sad that you don't understand the wisdom of my thinking. These men spread hate, their teaching corrupts the minds of others. They are a disease, and like a disease when they are cleansed the whole becomes better. I only want a better world.
Like I said, you and they are two-of-a-kind. They only want a better world too, and likewise don't care about the cost.


I don't go around preaching hate against those who don't deserve it. I speak the truth not hate. They speak hate, based on the rambling of some lunitic 2000 years ago. We are very different idiology. I want to end hate, they live to spread it.

A true Christian does not spread hate but the love of God. Does not judge another. Does not hurt another.

While I may not agree with the lifestyle choice of a homosexual, I do not condemn them.

You are condeming people...saying that anyone who practices religion should be jailed or whatever. What gives you that right?

What would you tell me if I thought that all Democrats should be jailed and dealt with using whatever force is necessary?
 

OutHouse

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: RBachman
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Wow.. all the people arguing that they aren't Christians. If I belonged to a religion I'd definately want to belong to one that said "they aren't xxxx" about its unwholesome members! Or hell, why don't we just make criminals "not Americans". That would be a damn good way of reducing the crime rate among Americans to zero.

Like it or not, Islamic terrorists ARE Muslims, these people are Christians, etc, etc. Not only that, but they are acting in the name of their religions. You can reprimand them and say that they are not good Christians or Muslims, but you can't act like they aren't members of your religion, especially since their ideology COMES FROM religion.

Anyone care to explain why one poster said that calling them Christians is equivalent to saying that all Muslims are terrorists? Do I need to draw a venn diagram?


I hereby declare myself a Hollywood actor. I've never acted in any movies. I've never acted like an actor, but I say I am one.

Does that make me an actor?

I've read a few of your posts and come to expect a bit more than this, at least on this subject. You've already made this baseless argument and had a counterpoint brought up, only to make it again.

Because it's exceeding simple, which usually makes for the best argument. A person does not become a Christian simply by claiming to be Christian; same as a person does not become a firefighter (or insert any other profession) simply by claiming to be one.

Sadly, most people that lash out at religious extremists tend to be just as ignorant as the extremist.

They are members of a baptist church. Most Americans would consider them christians. Just because you don't like the practices of SOME Christians, doesn't make them any less Christian.

I agree they are Christians. They are doing exactly what the bible says for them to do. The same is true of muslim terrorist, they are muslims and are doing what the koran ask of them.

I dont agree, these people are not christians. they preach hate, they dont follow jesus teachings at all. being christian means following the teachings of Christ and these morons arent even coming close.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: RBachman
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Wow.. all the people arguing that they aren't Christians. If I belonged to a religion I'd definately want to belong to one that said "they aren't xxxx" about its unwholesome members! Or hell, why don't we just make criminals "not Americans". That would be a damn good way of reducing the crime rate among Americans to zero.

Like it or not, Islamic terrorists ARE Muslims, these people are Christians, etc, etc. Not only that, but they are acting in the name of their religions. You can reprimand them and say that they are not good Christians or Muslims, but you can't act like they aren't members of your religion, especially since their ideology COMES FROM religion.

Anyone care to explain why one poster said that calling them Christians is equivalent to saying that all Muslims are terrorists? Do I need to draw a venn diagram?


I hereby declare myself a Hollywood actor. I've never acted in any movies. I've never acted like an actor, but I say I am one.

Does that make me an actor?

I've read a few of your posts and come to expect a bit more than this, at least on this subject. You've already made this baseless argument and had a counterpoint brought up, only to make it again.

Because it's exceeding simple, which usually makes for the best argument. A person does not become a Christian simply by claiming to be Christian; same as a person does not become a firefighter (or insert any other profession) simply by claiming to be one.

Sadly, most people that lash out at religious extremists tend to be just as ignorant as the extremist.

They are members of a baptist church. Most Americans would consider them christians. Just because you don't like the practices of SOME Christians, doesn't make them any less Christian.

I agree they are Christians. They are doing exactly what the bible says for them to do. The same is true of muslim terrorist, they are muslims and are doing what the koran ask of them.

Yeah, I missed the part where the Bible said "Thou shalt go to funerals and mock the dead and their families."
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Citrix
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: RBachman
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Wow.. all the people arguing that they aren't Christians. If I belonged to a religion I'd definately want to belong to one that said "they aren't xxxx" about its unwholesome members! Or hell, why don't we just make criminals "not Americans". That would be a damn good way of reducing the crime rate among Americans to zero.

Like it or not, Islamic terrorists ARE Muslims, these people are Christians, etc, etc. Not only that, but they are acting in the name of their religions. You can reprimand them and say that they are not good Christians or Muslims, but you can't act like they aren't members of your religion, especially since their ideology COMES FROM religion.

Anyone care to explain why one poster said that calling them Christians is equivalent to saying that all Muslims are terrorists? Do I need to draw a venn diagram?


I hereby declare myself a Hollywood actor. I've never acted in any movies. I've never acted like an actor, but I say I am one.

Does that make me an actor?

I've read a few of your posts and come to expect a bit more than this, at least on this subject. You've already made this baseless argument and had a counterpoint brought up, only to make it again.

Because it's exceeding simple, which usually makes for the best argument. A person does not become a Christian simply by claiming to be Christian; same as a person does not become a firefighter (or insert any other profession) simply by claiming to be one.

Sadly, most people that lash out at religious extremists tend to be just as ignorant as the extremist.

They are members of a baptist church. Most Americans would consider them christians. Just because you don't like the practices of SOME Christians, doesn't make them any less Christian.

I agree they are Christians. They are doing exactly what the bible says for them to do. The same is true of muslim terrorist, they are muslims and are doing what the koran ask of them.

I dont agree, these people are not christians. they preach hate, they dont follow jesus teachings at all. being christian means following the teachings of Christ and these morons arent even coming close.
There are lots of things Jesus didn't teach that Christians follow.
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Vic
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If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

At a certain point I think one should stop using the :roll: and start using the :laugh:.

True true :laugh:

Little does the troll seem to realize that he and Phelps are two of a kind with their senseless hatred, bigotry, and need to control the lives of others.

I am not some troll. I am serious about my beliefs. I find it sad that you don't understand the wisdom of my thinking. These men spread hate, their teaching corrupts the minds of others. They are a disease, and like a disease when they are cleansed the whole becomes better. I only want a better world.
Like I said, you and they are two-of-a-kind. They only want a better world too, and likewise don't care about the cost.
I don't go around preaching hate against those who don't deserve it. I speak the truth not hate. They speak hate, based on the rambling of some lunitic 2000 years ago. We are very different idiology. I want to end hate, they live to spread it.
Now I laugh at you :laugh:

You don't spread hate? And yet how many did you say are to die for your ideology? Oh yeah, that's right... as many as are "necessary." And using as much force as necessary (your own words) to carry out your own little personal ideology isn't hate, is it? :roll:
If you are serious, you are a fool. And a low-IQ moronic fool at that.


:roll:

I am not a fool.

Great men thoughout history have preached things similar to what I am saying.
 

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Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: DVK916
If we know where they are we need to find them and arrest them. Speach like theirs should be banned. They are a disease that the world needs to cleansed of. The first amendment which allows this men to spread their disease needs to be changed.
:roll:

At a certain point I think one should stop using the :roll: and start using the :laugh:.

True true :laugh:

Little does the troll seem to realize that he and Phelps are two of a kind with their senseless hatred, bigotry, and need to control the lives of others.

I am not some troll. I am serious about my beliefs. I find it sad that you don't understand the wisdom of my thinking. These men spread hate, their teaching corrupts the minds of others. They are a disease, and like a disease when they are cleansed the whole becomes better. I only want a better world.
Like I said, you and they are two-of-a-kind. They only want a better world too, and likewise don't care about the cost.
I don't go around preaching hate against those who don't deserve it. I speak the truth not hate. They speak hate, based on the rambling of some lunitic 2000 years ago. We are very different idiology. I want to end hate, they live to spread it.
Now I laugh at you :laugh:

You don't spread hate? And yet how many did you say are to die for your ideology? Oh yeah, that's right... as many as are "necessary." And using as much force as necessary (your own words) to carry out your own little personal ideology isn't hate, is it? :roll:
If you are serious, you are a fool. And a low-IQ moronic fool at that.
:roll:

I am not a fool.

Great men thoughout history have preached things similar to what I am saying.
Like Hitler and Stalin?