Thinking of joining the military

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If I were you I'd wait until Bush and his fellow assholes are out of office. No use dying for those jerk offs failed foriegn policies

Was already planning on doing that. Yay for graduating school in 2008. All I have to do is hold out a few months to see which side wins the election, and I can decide fully on what I want to do.

It's always good to plan well in advance, especially on a life changing decision like this.

the military isn't for you if you do it solely for political reasons or whoever is in the White House. You'll find it really quick that most people in the militay don't give a ratass about politics.

Unless the politics gets them stationed in some sandy sh!thole populated by uncivilized animals who hate Americans fighting a BS war based on lies and half truths.

Well, I wouldn't be mad because he sent me personally to a place I didn't want to go (meh, as if I had anything better to do) I joined knowing I could go anywhere...and so it is.

I'd be mad because he sent any American servicemen to a place they didn't belong. Even the lowest pawn on the ground has to back up and look at the big picture...

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Alright, enough of the P&N stuff. I created this thread about which branch would be better to consider, not the political motivation for joining.

I do appreciate your opinion Red Dawn, but this isn't where I intended this thread to go.

Now, does anyone have any opinions about Marines vs Air Force, and why?

to be honest, if i were you i'd join the army and here's why..
1)you have a lot more options in the Army than USMC or Air Force or Navy
2)it is a lot easier to get a pilot slot in the Army than USMC or AF, but no fixed wing aircrafts for the obvious reason

When you say a lot more options, what do you mean? In terms of jobs available?

b0mbrman: Thanks for the long reply. In terms of what my long term goals would be is promotion, decent living conditions, camaraderie of course, working in the heat will happen regardless, no?

Promotion is best in the Army
Living conditions: Air Force > Navy > Army > Marines
Camaraderie: Probably the opposite of living conditions
Working in the Heat: Not all do. It depends on your branch w/in service. For example, pilots get an air-conditioned cockpit (and the A/C actually works :Q)

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Xanis
The Marines is, without a doubt, the toughest branch of the military. Be prepared to get your ass kicked in basic training and beyond. While it would be cool to say that you were in the Marines, I have to reccomend the Air Force since it has more technology-oriented MOS.

I rode through Camp Pendleton on Saturday morning on my bike and was talking with the guard on duty when we rode up to the north entrance to the base and he was telling us that he was going back to regular duty instead of MP. I guess he wanted to go back to Iraq...I didn't think that was possible. Still, it was pretty cool to talk with the guy. He had already seen 2 tours in Iraq and was telling us how most of the civilians there appreciated the job they are doing over there.

We thanked him before we rode on into the base. Pretty cool guy. It's sure nice to be able to ride through the base again too. :thumbsup:

 

[AbsolutDealage]

Originally posted by: thepd7
lol pwned. Anyone who enters the military/reserves that isn't 100% willing to fight at their commander-in-chief's request shouldn't have gotten in. And btw, since I know Red Dawn is about to say "they didn't know that they would be fighting for this" or "they didn't know the commander-in-chief would be a moron," the oath they take does not make conditions for that. They knew that whenever they took the oath.

Agreed. Anything less will have you labeled as a conscientious objector.

OP: I have often thought of following that path as well, but I have decided against it because I fall under this category. I realized that if I were to do it, I would wait until at least Bush was out of office. That fact alone makes me think that I would not be cut out for the military.

 

[JDMnAR1]

Originally posted by: destrekor
first, how do you know you will be given the option of OCS immediately upon enlistment? If you don't enlist, the only other way to physically join the service is through ROTC. I think to become an officer without ROTC you have to enlist and be given the option of OCS. that's up for those who are higher up than you to decide if you are worthy to be given the chance.
i may be wrong though. however, I for one am doing Army ROTC.

Yes, actually you are wrong. Specifically for the Air Force, you can take the AFOQT with no obligation whatsoever to actually enlist. You will have to work with a recruiter in order to schedule the test, and if you do well enough you can get a slot to OCS. As was explained to me, you will still have to do your regular basic training, but from there you would go directly to OCS. Keep in mind that the chances of you getting a rated slot (pilot/navigator) are pretty slim via this path. If that is what you want to do, you have a much better shot if you join ROTC in college and stick with it.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Alright, enough of the P&N stuff. I created this thread about which branch would be better to consider, not the political motivation for joining.

I do appreciate your opinion Red Dawn, but this isn't where I intended this thread to go.

Now, does anyone have any opinions about Marines vs Air Force, and why?

to be honest, if i were you i'd join the army and here's why..
1)you have a lot more options in the Army than USMC or Air Force or Navy
2)it is a lot easier to get a pilot slot in the Army than USMC or AF, but no fixed wing aircrafts for the obvious reason

When you say a lot more options, what do you mean? In terms of jobs available?

b0mbrman: Thanks for the long reply. In terms of what my long term goals would be is promotion, decent living conditions, camaraderie of course, working in the heat will happen regardless, no?

Promotion is best in the Army
Living conditions: Air Force > Navy > Army > Marines
Camaraderie: Probably the opposite of living conditions
Working in the Heat: Not all do. It depends on your branch w/in service. For example, pilots get an air-conditioned cockpit (and the A/C actually works :Q)

actually, i think the Marines have better living condition than the Army or AF. I mean, all their bases and camps are along the coast right next to the oceans...unless they are MEU living in a ship, then it's suck.

Nope. Look at gov't funding per servicemember per base by service. The Marines get laughably less for upkeep.

 

[aplefka]

Marines would be hardcore.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: savoyboy
I'm not sure what you are talking about. Everybody gets pay the same on the paychart based on rank and years of service. My older brother is an E-4 jarhead and he gets pay just as much as me when I was an E-4 in the Army.

edit: the only exception is it is a lot harder to get promoted in USMC, therefore, you don't make as much money compare to the Army.

I think he means funding of all the training and items each soldier receives, not the pay itself, which is standard throughout the military.

 

[mwmorph]

Which is a better careerpath as far as promotion oppurtunities go(Army, Marines, AF)?

Also, anyone in the AF can tell exactly how hard it is to make pilot? Also any sort of orther action positions in the Airforce like special forces?

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Alright, enough of the P&N stuff. I created this thread about which branch would be better to consider, not the political motivation for joining.

I do appreciate your opinion Red Dawn, but this isn't where I intended this thread to go.

Now, does anyone have any opinions about Marines vs Air Force, and why?

to be honest, if i were you i'd join the army and here's why..
1)you have a lot more options in the Army than USMC or Air Force or Navy
2)it is a lot easier to get a pilot slot in the Army than USMC or AF, but no fixed wing aircrafts for the obvious reason

When you say a lot more options, what do you mean? In terms of jobs available?

b0mbrman: Thanks for the long reply. In terms of what my long term goals would be is promotion, decent living conditions, camaraderie of course, working in the heat will happen regardless, no?

Promotion is best in the Army
Living conditions: Air Force > Navy > Army > Marines
Camaraderie: Probably the opposite of living conditions
Working in the Heat: Not all do. It depends on your branch w/in service. For example, pilots get an air-conditioned cockpit (and the A/C actually works :Q)

actually, i think the Marines have better living condition than the Army or AF. I mean, all their bases and camps are along the coast right next to the oceans...unless they are MEU living in a ship, then it's suck.

Nope. Look at gov't funding per servicemember per base by service. The Marines get laughably less for upkeep.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Everybody gets pay the same on the paychart based on rank and years of service. My older brother is an E-4 jarhead and he gets pay just as much as me when I was an E-4 in the Army.

edit: the only exception is it is a lot harder to get promoted in USMC, therefore, you don't make as much money compare to the Army.

Heh...way off

I'm talking about the amount the base itself gets to do maintenance on barracks, libraries, other buildings, utilities, etc.

 

[brandonbull]

AF has those rescue airborne dudes.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Alright, enough of the P&N stuff. I created this thread about which branch would be better to consider, not the political motivation for joining.

I do appreciate your opinion Red Dawn, but this isn't where I intended this thread to go.

Now, does anyone have any opinions about Marines vs Air Force, and why?

to be honest, if i were you i'd join the army and here's why..
1)you have a lot more options in the Army than USMC or Air Force or Navy
2)it is a lot easier to get a pilot slot in the Army than USMC or AF, but no fixed wing aircrafts for the obvious reason

When you say a lot more options, what do you mean? In terms of jobs available?

b0mbrman: Thanks for the long reply. In terms of what my long term goals would be is promotion, decent living conditions, camaraderie of course, working in the heat will happen regardless, no?

Promotion is best in the Army
Living conditions: Air Force > Navy > Army > Marines
Camaraderie: Probably the opposite of living conditions
Working in the Heat: Not all do. It depends on your branch w/in service. For example, pilots get an air-conditioned cockpit (and the A/C actually works :Q)

actually, i think the Marines have better living condition than the Army or AF. I mean, all their bases and camps are along the coast right next to the oceans...unless they are MEU living in a ship, then it's suck.

Nope. Look at gov't funding per servicemember per base by service. The Marines get laughably less for upkeep.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Everybody gets pay the same on the paychart based on rank and years of service. My older brother is an E-4 jarhead and he gets pay just as much as me when I was an E-4 in the Army.

edit: the only exception is it is a lot harder to get promoted in USMC, therefore, you don't make as much money compare to the Army.

Heh...way off

I'm talking about the amount the base itself gets to do maintenance on barracks, libraries, other buildings, utilities, etc.

I visited my brother in Camp Pendleton a few times. I really don't see any difference between Camp Pendleton and Army's Fort Carson or Fort Benning

Welp, your anecdotal evidence has certainly proven me wrong

[Edit] Hold on, I'll check the net for some hard numbers :thumbsup:

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If I were you I'd wait until Bush and his fellow assholes are out of office. No use dying for those jerk offs failed foriegn policies

Was already planning on doing that. Yay for graduating school in 2008. All I have to do is hold out a few months to see which side wins the election, and I can decide fully on what I want to do.

It's always good to plan well in advance, especially on a life changing decision like this.

the military isn't for you if you do it solely for political reasons or whoever is in the White House. You'll find it really quick that most people in the militay don't give a ratass about politics.

Unless the politics gets them stationed in some sandy sh!thole populated by uncivilized animals who hate Americans fighting a BS war based on lies and half truths.

yes. because we all know armed forces is about sitting around a camp fire singing kumbaya.

thanks for reminding me. i did not know military people have to go to war

lol pwned. Anyone who enters the military/reserves that isn't 100% willing to fight at their commander-in-chief's request shouldn't have gotten in. And btw, since I know Red Dawn is about to say "they didn't know that they would be fighting for this" or "they didn't know the commander-in-chief would be a moron," the oath they take does not make conditions for that. They knew that whenever they took the oath.

Hence the advice to wait.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If I were you I'd wait until Bush and his fellow assholes are out of office. No use dying for those jerk offs failed foriegn policies

Was already planning on doing that. Yay for graduating school in 2008. All I have to do is hold out a few months to see which side wins the election, and I can decide fully on what I want to do.

It's always good to plan well in advance, especially on a life changing decision like this.

the military isn't for you if you do it solely for political reasons or whoever is in the White House. You'll find it really quick that most people in the militay don't give a ratass about politics.

Unless the politics gets them stationed in some sandy sh!thole populated by uncivilized animals who hate Americans fighting a BS war based on lies and half truths.

yes. because we all know armed forces is about sitting around a camp fire singing kumbaya.

thanks for reminding me. i did not know military people have to go to war

lol pwned. Anyone who enters the military/reserves that isn't 100% willing to fight at their commander-in-chief's request shouldn't have gotten in. And btw, since I know Red Dawn is about to say "they didn't know that they would be fighting for this" or "they didn't know the commander-in-chief would be a moron," the oath they take does not make conditions for that. They knew that whenever they took the oath.

Hence the advice to wait.

You'd have better luck trying to time the stock market than trying to time the craziness of the Middle East + the whimsy of our politicians

 

[Rent]

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5
Alright, enough of the P&N stuff. I created this thread about which branch would be better to consider, not the political motivation for joining.

I do appreciate your opinion Red Dawn, but this isn't where I intended this thread to go.

Now, does anyone have any opinions about Marines vs Air Force, and why?

to be honest, if i were you i'd join the army and here's why..
1)you have a lot more options in the Army than USMC or Air Force or Navy
2)it is a lot easier to get a pilot slot in the Army than USMC or AF, but no fixed wing aircrafts for the obvious reason

When you say a lot more options, what do you mean? In terms of jobs available?

b0mbrman: Thanks for the long reply. In terms of what my long term goals would be is promotion, decent living conditions, camaraderie of course, working in the heat will happen regardless, no?

Promotion is best in the Army
Living conditions: Air Force > Navy > Army > Marines
Camaraderie: Probably the opposite of living conditions
Working in the Heat: Not all do. It depends on your branch w/in service. For example, pilots get an air-conditioned cockpit (and the A/C actually works :Q)

actually, i think the Marines have better living condition than the Army or AF. I mean, all their bases and camps are along the coast right next to the oceans...unless they are MEU living in a ship, then it's suck.

Nope. Look at gov't funding per servicemember per base by service. The Marines get laughably less for upkeep.

I'm not sure what you are talking about. Everybody gets pay the same on the paychart based on rank and years of service. My older brother is an E-4 jarhead and he gets pay just as much as me when I was an E-4 in the Army.

edit: the only exception is it is a lot harder to get promoted in USMC, therefore, you don't make as much money compare to the Army.

Heh...way off

I'm talking about the amount the base itself gets to do maintenance on barracks, libraries, other buildings, utilities, etc.

I visited my brother in Camp Pendleton a few times. I really don't see any difference between Camp Pendleton and Army's Fort Carson or Fort Benning

Thats probably because in the event that any Marine unit gets downtime while in Garrison, they're usually doing "base beautification" I.E. labor for hours so that your barracks/quarters/ect.. look nice in case the BC or someother big wig decides to get some motivation by walking around the troops area.

I won't comment on funding as I don't know all the hard numbers.

To the OP : sounds like you're a little out of shape if you need to lose that much weight. USMC Officers must set the standards for any enlisted they are in charge of. I've yet to see a out of shape officer, of course, being in a grunt unit we PT more than your average support unit.

The Air Force may be more up your alley depending on your personality. Talk with some recruiters if you're serious, they'll be a huge source of info. Just be ready to tell them to fvck off if you have to.

 

[quentinterintino]

It's going to be tough to get a pilot slot without being in peak physical shape, from the Air Force anyway. I know a few Army and Marine chopper dudes who are bigger, but certainly not out of shape. Also, a buddy of mine is a Hornet driver for the Marines, and unless you're a lucky SOB, you'll have a hard time getting in there.

With that said, look at the Guard or flying choppers for any branch, I have heard that it's easier to get those positions - but of course, that's what I have heard, not witnessed firsthand. Any flying (rated) position is coveted. Remember, officer first, pilot second. Good luck

 

[HomeAppraiser]

You graduate in two years so try ROTC to ease into it.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If I were you I'd wait until Bush and his fellow assholes are out of office. No use dying for those jerk offs failed foriegn policies

Was already planning on doing that. Yay for graduating school in 2008. All I have to do is hold out a few months to see which side wins the election, and I can decide fully on what I want to do.

It's always good to plan well in advance, especially on a life changing decision like this.

the military isn't for you if you do it solely for political reasons or whoever is in the White House. You'll find it really quick that most people in the militay don't give a ratass about politics.

Unless the politics gets them stationed in some sandy sh!thole populated by uncivilized animals who hate Americans fighting a BS war based on lies and half truths.

yes. because we all know armed forces is about sitting around a camp fire singing kumbaya.

thanks for reminding me. i did not know military people have to go to war

lol pwned. Anyone who enters the military/reserves that isn't 100% willing to fight at their commander-in-chief's request shouldn't have gotten in. And btw, since I know Red Dawn is about to say "they didn't know that they would be fighting for this" or "they didn't know the commander-in-chief would be a moron," the oath they take does not make conditions for that. They knew that whenever they took the oath.

Hence the advice to wait.

yea see... who's to say the next president isn't the most idiotic of them all? who's to say it's really Bush at the front of all this anyway? Any damned liberal will preach his ass off about how it's the president who is at fault for all that is wrong, and yet slap a democrat in office and see them screw up, the liberals won't be so quick to blame him. the entire government is to blame for the mess in the middle east, and i personally believe Bush has done all he could do about the situation over there, given the information he has been fed. he only reacts based on what he is told, if the people telling him things are the ones corrupt, who is really at fault for the mess? most sitting presidents don't have to deal with too much, so they get off scot-free. the next president may have no wars to deal with and may be praised for his excellent handling of the military... or the next president may have the beginning of world war III on his hands and be billed as either an excellent president or the worst one yet.

oh and it tends to be the U.S.'s job to police the world. it always has been, and always likely will be, unless the U.N. is actually given power that essentially turns it into a world governing body, of which i'd see it as more or less a police-state like body.

 

[JDMnAR1]

I feel fairly confident saying that you will not get a rated slot in the Air Force without either graduating from the Air Force Academy, having been active in AF ROTC during your four years in college, or having someone with MAJOR clout pull some strings. I had outstanding scores on the AFOQT, a BS (Engineering) and an MBA, and top-notch letters of reference from several career Air Force officers in my jacket when I was looking into it. It was no problem getting a slot at OCS, if I wanted to go into IT or something technical like that, but there was no chance that I was going to be sitting in the cockpit. Years ago (think before Graham-Ruddman and all the other cuts that the military has gone through in the past 25 years), and it was within the realm of possiblity for someone essentially walking in off the street (no prior committment to the military, either via ROTC or service academy attendance) to get a rated slot, but not anymore.

 

[chowmein]

i joined the AF back in May and i am still currently in tech training. i am currently an E-3 (A1C) What i can tell you about what i've learn about the air force is that they freakin' take care of you. Living conditions are freakin' awesome, so many new dorms and naturally well a/c'd at a cool 70 degree temp. i can't image the OTS school being worst than what i recieved at Lackland, TX. i underwent 6.5 weeks of boot camp. it wasn't particular intense, but the TI (training instructors) are not to be taken likely. they are the cream of the crop when it comes to military training. ex-spec forces, SERES, Tactical, Marines vets. the biggest challenge was the stress they inflict upon you, other than that it's actually fun.

as for OTS, i hear of stories of ice cream eating contests and keg parties. which is pretty much what my tech school is like. of course they throw in a bunch of military bearing stuff we have to abide by, but other than that it's really awesome. being an officer in the AF is the way to go, nothing beats all the benefits and entitlements that the AF gets. i heard one time an officer got extra pay because he stayed at an army base which had "sub-standard living conditions." with your degree, you have MANY options so talk to a recruiter, if possible talk to an active duty officer.

you'll probably make more money with a civilian job, or a govt contract job outside of the military, but you can't beat the benefits such as: BAH (in NY it's $1990), BAS (food about $250 or so), Retirement (depending on rank and TiG up to 50% of your pay for retirement), Leave (30 days a year) and much much more.

what i can tell you about the marines, you're a frontline marine first, your speciality second. but man they are bad-ass. parris island ... very deceiving name.

i also recently received my orders for my first PCS which is Kadena, Japan. my first choice, some of my buddies from basic got hawaii and their dream choices as well.

the only thing i have to say about deployment to iraq is that we have a program called AEF which is mandatory deployment in which they say EVERYONE goes at one point or another. but i had many conversations with Majors and LTCs that they went maybe once or twice on a short tour (anywhere from 1week to 6 months) and that was it. they just played cards and golf the entire time. unless you're special forces or transportation you're not gonna see frontline sandbox action.

 

[roguerower]

Obviously I'm gonna say Semper Fi, and I'm posting this without first reading what has already been said, but it's all about what you want to do. The Corps can be very intesnse and if you can't handle a 9-5 job at the moment, I doubt you'll do well in the Corps because it's usually a 0600-1900 (6-7) job. If you're interested in the Corps, PM me and I'll explain it to you. I am presently a Marine Option ROTC MIDN and will be attending OCS in 2 years (errr).

As for the Air Force (ahem...chair force), they are much more technical. I don't know much about them, but I can tell you that my roommate this year was Air Force ROTC and I would have loved to have it easy like him.

For instance: One day I came back from PT (6 mile ruck hump). As I walked into my room soaked with sweat from all my gear, he was just getting out of his PT gear (we had PT on the same days). I asked him what Air Force had done for PT that morning. His answer: Dodgeball. I refused to speak to him for the rest of the day.

 

[roguerower]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: PowerMacG5

Originally posted by: FoBoT
you have to have a degree for OCS

Go Navy!

officers are like managers, they manage/supervise people (the enlisted people)
unless you are a pilot or surgeon, those types of specialties are restricted to officers, but they don't necessarily supervise anyone

I will have a degree when I would go to join. Also, from what I can tell you can sign up your senior year and go to PLC with the Marines, and once you are done with college you kinda have a head start.

Also, are officers "In the sh!t" or are they generally on the back end? How does that work?

first, how do you know you will be given the option of OCS immediately upon enlistment? If you don't enlist, the only other way to physically join the service is through ROTC. I think to become an officer without ROTC you have to enlist and be given the option of OCS. that's up for those who are higher up than you to decide if you are worthy to be given the chance.
i may be wrong though. however, I for one am doing Army ROTC.

as far as being "in the sh!t", depends on your job and your rank. As 2nd Lieut in a combat platoon, you'd likely be at the front line of combat. as you progress upwards in rank, you'd move further and further away from the frontline, until you are a general where you are almost always safely away from danger, unless your decision is to be closer to the combat. many generals like to get close, but not too close for comfort. you gotta be where the men you lead are.

WRONG!! That might be Army but Marines are different. ROTC, PLC, PCC are your options. Marines are riflemen first and foremost.

 

[roguerower]

Originally posted by: savoyboy

Originally posted by: mwmorph
Which is a better careerpath as far as promotion oppurtunities go(Army, Marines, AF)?

Also, anyone in the AF can tell exactly how hard it is to make pilot? Also any sort of orther action positions in the Airforce like special forces?

I hear it's hard to get a pilot position in the AF.

AF has Aircombat Controllers and Pararescue Jumpers. Tough guys.

Two words: Force Recon.

Sry, for the multiple posts.

 

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: roguerower
Obviously I'm gonna say Semper Fi, and I'm posting this without first reading what has already been said, but it's all about what you want to do. The Corps can be very intesnse and if you can't handle a 9-5 job at the moment, I doubt you'll do well in the Corps because it's usually a 0600-1900 (6-7) job. If you're interested in the Corps, PM me and I'll explain it to you. I am presently a Marine Option ROTC MIDN and will be attending OCS in 2 years (errr).

As for the Air Force (ahem...chair force), they are much more technical. I don't know much about them, but I can tell you that my roommate this year was Air Force ROTC and I would have loved to have it easy like him.

For instance: One day I came back from PT (6 mile ruck hump). As I walked into my room soaked with sweat from all my gear, he was just getting out of his PT gear (we had PT on the same days). I asked him what Air Force had done for PT that morning. His answer: Dodgeball. I refused to speak to him for the rest of the day.

DEP and ROTC oftne have somewhat laid back PT in terms of a bit of fun every now and then. its not to make it easy, because its still a workout.
i recently went to my ex-girlfriends DEP meeting for the Navy (she was my girlfriend at the time), and that day they played a long game of kickball. actually worked up a really good sweat and was kind of tired.
i've heard the ROTC programs are similar in that they will do everything from running and pushups to playing basketball.

 

[roguerower]

Only semi-"fun" thing that my Marine ROTC unit has done was football...at 5:30 in the morning. Ended up running into each other more than anything. Usually it's long runs followed by push-pull exercises (push-pull being pushups/pullups)