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shira

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I don't think you understand how the executive/4th branch of government works.

Or perhaps YOU don't understand:

While it's true that the ATF proposed a ban on "green tip" ammunition in February 2015, President Obama was not involved through executive action of any description. The ATF described the proposal as the result of a long-term examination of whether the ammunition fit the criteria for an exemption for sporting purposes:

In light of recent developments in the firearm and ammunition marketplace, ATF sought input from industry, law enforcement organizations, and the general public on the application of the unique "sporting purpose" exemption set forth in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(C). In November 2012, ATF held four meetings with interested parties representing law enforcement, the firearms and ammunition industries, and non-governmental organizations. In addition, after completion of these meetings, ATF also solicited and accepted comments from the general public through December 31, 2012. All of that input was considered in interpreting the meaning of the statutory language, and developing the framework described below.
 

ivwshane

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Does it make you feel better that it is not an actual signed executive order rather than the executive branch moving to ban one of the most popular types of AR15 ammo? The director of the ATF is an obama appointee so this latest proposal does not surprise me one bit. Whether it is trying to limit who can do finishing work on a receiver, going after bank accounts of those in the firearm industry, refusing to import WW2 era firearms, etc. etc. The current executive branch is attempting to bypass congress as usual in their attempt to impose gun control.

So the ATF wants to reclassify the most popular (and inexpensive) type of AR-15 ammo as armor piercing because it can be fired from a pistol... totally disregarding that these "pistols" are expensive and aren't really the same size as your typical .38 special. This will drive up prices and make it more expensive for gun owners. Plain and simple. Thankfully January 2017 is not that far away.


Lol!

Clueless chicken little is of course clueless;)

In light of recent developments in the firearm and ammunition marketplace, ATF sought input from industry, law enforcement organizations, and the general public on the application of the unique "sporting purpose" exemption set forth in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(C). In November 2012, ATF held four meetings with interested parties representing law enforcement, the firearms and ammunition industries, and non-governmental organizations. In addition, after completion of these meetings, ATF also solicited and accepted comments from the general public through December 31, 2012. All of that input was considered in interpreting the meaning of the statutory language, and developing the framework described below.

Sounds totally political to me!! I heard Obama was at those meetings too, he was behind one way glass and rubbing his hands!
 

Blanky

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This is generally why you need to get news from more sources than just gun forums or drudge.
 
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