Think Hobby Lobby is just about 4 forms of birth control? Think again!

[senseamp]

http://www.businessweek.com/article...oneer-faces-boycotts-over-birth-control#r=rss

In fact, Potter’s objections go farther than those that took the Hobby Lobby case all the way to the Supreme Court. The Greens refused to cover four kinds of birth control they consider tantamount to abortion, while Potter objects to paying for any form of birth control. Eden Foods filed a lawsuit last year, seeking exemption on religious grounds, and lost. Following the Supreme Court’s decision on June 30, Eden’s case is being reconsidered.

Until Obamacare began requiring insurers to do so, the company’s insurance policy with Blue Cross/Blue Shield of Michigan specifically excluded contraception in all forms, which Potter believes “almost always involve immoral and unnatural practices.”

There goes that BS argument.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Heh, none of this is about birth control, its about controlling women.

 

[pcgeek11]

No. It is not about controlling women. I don't think they should be required to provide birth control or abortion pills to anyone if they do not want to. They do not provide you guys with rubbers do they? Why not? It is the same thing.

Women's health has nothing to do with birth control. They are two different things. Birth control doesn't make you healthier. Plus they are not stopping these women from getting birth control, they can purchase it any time they want. Just as I can buy a pack of rubbers.

 

[Jaskalas]

Employer doesn't pay for their lunch either. Don't employees need to eat?

Employer doesn't pay for their home. Don't employees need shelter?

 

[ivwshane]

No. It is not about controlling women. I don't think they should be required to provide birth control or abortion pills to anyone if they do not want to. They do not provide you guys with rubbers do they? Why not? It is the same thing.

Women's health has nothing to do with birth control. They are two different things. Birth control doesn't make you healthier. Plus they are not stopping these women from getting birth control, they can purchase it any time they want. Just as I can buy a pack of rubbers.

Spoken like a truely informed person!



Just kidding, you fucking idiot!

 

[sandorski]

No. It is not about controlling women. I don't think they should be required to provide birth control or abortion pills to anyone if they do not want to. They do not provide you guys with rubbers do they? Why not? It is the same thing.

Women's health has nothing to do with birth control. They are two different things. Birth control doesn't make you healthier. Plus they are not stopping these women from getting birth control, they can purchase it any time they want. Just as I can buy a pack of rubbers.

None of the BC pills are "Abortion Pills".

 

[ivwshane]

Employer doesn't pay for their lunch either. Don't employees need to eat?

Employer doesn't pay for their home. Don't employees need shelter?

Yeah but all of that was paid for by the money the employer agreed to give the employee for their work. You know how else the employer agreed to pay their employee? With health care coverage. And just like how the employer can't pay the employee fake dollar bills, because it's illegal, the employer shouldn't be allowed provide health care that doesn't meet federal standards.

Of course, to you fucking morons, corporations are above the law and their will supersedes the rights of their employees.

Corporatists are the anti-Americans!

 

[1prophet]

Government should provide free birth control for anyone not covered through Planned Parenthood,

this way we avoid the religious exemption court fights and subsequent divisions they cause which are more costly to the country than any tax payer subsidized coverage,

and women have accesss to all the free birth control they want regardless of their employers policies.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Employer doesn't pay for their lunch either. Don't employees need to eat?

Employer doesn't pay for their home. Don't employees need shelter?

Employers have to pay a minimum wage, hence they essentially pay for food & shelter

Employers can opt out of health care if its offensive and pay the tax penalty to put employees on the exchanges.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Government should provide free birth control for anyone not covered through Planned Parenthood,

this way we avoid the religious exemption court fights and subsequent divisions they cause which are more costly to the country than any tax payer subsidized coverage,

and women have accesss to all the free birth control they want regardless of their employers policies.

Hmmmm I didn't realize the ACA required employers to provide free birth control. My insurance requires a $10 copay for a month supply birth control pills. It's cheaper if the doctor writes a presription for a 90 day supply with three refills, the the cost is $20 for the 90 day supply.

 

[Matt1970]

Spoken like a truely informed person!



Just kidding, you fucking idiot!

You are such a child.

 

[schmuckley]

Yeah but all of that was paid for by the money the employee agreed to give the employee for their work. You know how else the employer agreed to pay their employee? With health care coverage. And just like how the employer can't pay the employee fake dollar bills, because it's illegal, the employer shouldn't be allowed provide health care that doesn't meet federal standards.

Of course, to you fucking morons, corporations are above the law and their will supersedes the rights of their employees.

Corporatists are the anti-Americans!

Oh,so the government mandating forced sales of a product made by
Pharmaceutical corporations isn't corporatist?

LOL

 

[alzan]

No. It is not about controlling women. I don't think they should be required to provide birth control or abortion pills to anyone if they do not want to. They do not provide you guys with rubbers do they? Why not? It is the same thing.

Women's health has nothing to do with birth control. They are two different things. Birth control doesn't make you healthier. Plus they are not stopping these women from getting birth control, they can purchase it any time they want. Just as I can buy a pack of rubbers.

Since healthcare is provided as part of an employees benefit and compensation package, if the employer does not want to cover BC as part of the healthcare policy then they can re-compensate the employees BC with extra money in their paycheck. I would be okay with condoms being paid for men along with counseling as to their proper use; too many men refuse to wrap it up before sex which can cause unwanted/unplanned pregnancies.

Actually for a significant number of women BC does make them healthier; you should talk to a few ob-gyn's. As well with any group policy and insurance pooling, making BC part of the plan decreases costs for all.

 

[Jaskalas]

Yeah but all of that was paid for by the money the employee agreed to give the employee for their work.

And that is exactly how Birth Control should be.

 

[Genx87]

Oh,so the government mandating forced sales of a product made by
Pharmaceutical corporations isn't corporatist?

LOL

Or buying private health insurance?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Oh,so the government mandating forced sales of a product made by
Pharmaceutical corporations isn't corporatist?

LOL

The obvious answer is its been well established that preventing unwanted pregnancies is good for families, society and the health industry. Its not about women getting free stuff that doesn't apply to men also its not required to use birth control.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Most insurance programs pay 100% for an annual physical (I would bet that Hobby Lobby's health insurance provides this coverage), a woman that works for them could get a prescription for birth control during the physical, then take the prescription to Walmart and get the birth control pills for $9/month. That's about the same price as those with employer provided prescription drug plans pay. Canadians pay similar prices for their generic birth control pills as well.

 

[nehalem256]

The obvious answer is its been well established that preventing unwanted pregnancies is good for families, society and the health industry. Its not about women getting free stuff that doesn't apply to men also its not required to use birth control.

Actually it is totally about getting women "free" stuff. Which is why BC pills cannot even have a copay.

Its pretty sad that drugs that actually literally save a persons life can have a copay, whereas BC cannot. Care explaining why that is if it isn't about giving women "free" stuff?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

I already did explain it. Unwanted/unplanned children.

 

[schneiderguy]

Employer doesn't pay for their lunch either. Don't employees need to eat?

Employer doesn't pay for their home. Don't employees need shelter?

Don't be silly. Women are like children; they need everything provided to them by the state or by their employer, or they will surely perish.

 

[alzan]

Most insurance programs pay 100% for an annual physical (I would bet that Hobby Lobby's health insurance provides this coverage), a woman that works for them could get a prescription for birth control during the physical, then take the prescription to Walmart and get the birth control pills for $9/month. That's about the same price as those with employer provided prescription drug plans pay. Canadians pay similar prices for their generic birth control pills as well.

Not all women can safely use generic birth control pills.

 

[boomerang]

Ho-hum. More leftist outrage.

 

[Matt1970]

Not all women can safely use generic birth control pills.

So? There are a lot of foods my girlfriend can't eat without having major indigestion. Does that mean the government should buy her food?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Not all women can safely use generic birth control pills.

Most prescription drug plans charge the person 20% of the retail cost for the name brand version.

 

[Veliko]

So? There are a lot of foods my girlfriend can't eat without having major indigestion. Does that mean the government should buy her food?

It seems that Nehalem Logic is catching.