Things We Can Do To The Moon

[Fistandantilis]

Originally posted by: MetalStorm
Well if we don't have enough nukes to blow that cosmic ball of cheese to pieces then it might be possible to genetically engineer mice so that they can live in space and then slowly eat their way through the moon.

Of course, we will have to be ready with a contingency plan of genetically engineered cats, to eat said mice if something goes wrong - like they stop eating the cheese and instead make great mouse sized fortresses with lasers on the walls and a moat and then plot an invasion of earth.

Wow, with that said we should get ahold of the scientist and put that plan into action

 

[tommywishbone]

I must confess to having been intimidated and quite nervous about looking at the 'Highly Technical' section of the Anantech forums; after viewing this thread, my fears are realized. I feel it is my duty to report these diabolical activities (covering the moon with foil, giant disco balls, smiley faces, super-duper A-bombs on giant rockets) to those in charge. You will respect my authoriti and cease at once! Thank you.

 

[RollWave]

Originally posted by: WoodenPupa
Do we have enough nuclear power to pound it into oblivion? To blast it to bits? I would have to guess no, but what would happen if we concentrated all the nukes at the same spot, one after the other?

Uh we definitely have enough nukes to destroy the earth, the moon would be easy by comparison. Hell the US or Russia could do it alone.

 

[MetalStorm]

Originally posted by: rnp614

Originally posted by: WoodenPupa
Do we have enough nuclear power to pound it into oblivion? To blast it to bits? I would have to guess no, but what would happen if we concentrated all the nukes at the same spot, one after the other?

Uh we definitely have enough nukes to destroy the earth, the moon would be easy by comparison. Hell the US or Russia could do it alone.

When people talk of "destroying" the earth, they don't mean it literally, dufus. Besides it really depends on what sort of cheese the moon is made from, if it's a soft brie, it should be easy, however a well matured parmesan would require many more nukes.

 

[rivan]

Given the moon's cheese structure, would nukes be the most efficient process anyway? I'd think one ship with a half dozen mice would do the trick.

Or, if you're highly organized, a large, well-planned dinner party could do it. To paraphrase (and interpret) Sun Tzu:

If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him.
Be prepared - bring wine & crackers.

If he is in superior strength, evade him.
If you don't have enough friends whose schedule permits, save the cheese 'til you do.

If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him.
If it's a fondue, don't be afraid to use those little forks.

Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.
If the cheese is uppity (many bleus, some fetas), yet it's pride may be exploited.

If he is taking his ease, give him no rest.
Obviously another fondue reference, this one dealing with the skin that settles on an undisturbed pot.

If his forces are united, separate them.
Bring a high quality cheese slicer. Try Williams-Sonoma.

If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them.
Don't mix the cheeses while on a plate - the firepower of limburger and asiago's tang may prove too formidable for you in close proximity. Try separating them with some grapes, or perhaps some nice ham rolls with olive toothpicked to them.

Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.
Raw cheese is better than cooked. Always approach the cheese from behind.

 

[MobiusPizza]

Originally posted by: WoodenPupa

1) Now, the moon is a big rock. Can we destroy the thing? Yes, it would have disastrous consequences without a plan in mind, but nevermind that for the moment. Do we have enough nuclear power to pound it into oblivion? To blast it to bits? I would have to guess no, but what would happen if we concentrated all the nukes at the same spot, one after the other? wouldn't that create craters within craters, until the core was reached?

Disastrous

Without lunar attraction, tides on Earth would be distrubed. Have massive impact on marine lives and coastal landscapes.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: AnnihilatorX


Disastrous

Without lunar attraction, tides on Earth would be distrubed. Have massive impact on marine lives and coastal landscapes.

It's only a matter of time before any civilized moon-destruction discussion is disrupted by environmental extremists.

It's a shame, really.

AnnihilatorX, are you a member of PETM (People for the Ethical Treatment of the Moon)? Come clean!

 

[Sushifiend3000]

Raw cheese is better than cooked. Always approach the cheese from behind.

Um, cheese is omniscient, hello.

 

[makken]

The tin foil idea would be rather foolish actually.....it would get all dusty again from space dust falling onto it every year.

If we covered the entire surface in rotating mirrors, we could focus all the sun's power either into solar panels on earth or at evil people like Bill Gates or the Chinese.

Boiling the ocean would also be an option; that could be used to keep the climate more stable....eliminate any drouts.

Or the government could rent off the mirrors, say 50 at a time, and you could have extra lighting at your house. That could be used for tanning, making sure your plants get enough light all day, or for heating your water tank.

I think what would be really could would be to put a ton of rockets on it and blast it into the sun. Throw some orbiting web cams around the sun and we could have a blast forcefeeding the sun cheese. Then we could just find an asteroid to replace the moon......and mine it.

Wouldn't that make the climate worst as water vapor is a GHG?
Blasting it into the sun might not work too well either; at those temperatures, its going to melt long before it reaches the sun regardless of whatever cheese its made of. However... you could probably coat mercury in a layer of liquid cheesy goodness

 

[Machupo]

holy thread necro, batman!

 

[pw38]

Aww man I missed this gold?

 

[Howard]

Like hell you are.

Surface area = 4Pi r^2
radius of the moon = 1737.4 kilometers
That's 1,737,400 meters.
The surface area is 3.79 times 10^13 square meters.
37932300000000 square meters.

Let's assume you have a method to cover it at 100 square meters per second...
That's a little over 12 THOUSAND years to cover the whole thing.
(of course, your wisdom implies that you're smart enough to only cover the side towards earth... but some of us might want the Aliens to see the giant ball-o-foil and realize:
"there's no intelligent life there... what kind of fvcktard covers a moon in aluminum foil"
Anyway, covering just half of the moon is 6000 years. (6014, actually)

Which is exactly the age of the earth!

 

[KGB]

I had almost forgotten about this thread.

:thumbsup:

 

[sm625]

If we wanted to move the moon, we would have to go out into the asteroid belt and redirect an asteroid to collide it with the moon. It wouldnt be easy since the angle of approach would need to take it dangerously close to earth. We are capable of doing all the math required to make it work exactly how we want it. And I believe we are capable of redirecting asteroids but I dont know exactly how big of one we'd have to redirect in order to move the moon where we wanted it.

 

[Anteaus]

If we wanted to move the moon, we would have to go out into the asteroid belt and redirect an asteroid to collide it with the moon. It wouldnt be easy since the angle of approach would need to take it dangerously close to earth. We are capable of doing all the math required to make it work exactly how we want it. And I believe we are capable of redirecting asteroids but I dont know exactly how big of one we'd have to redirect in order to move the moon where we wanted it.

Doing the math and actually doing it are two very different things. First off, moving the moon (even if theoretically possible) would be a very bad thing. As it is now, the moon is slowly moving alway from the Earth, but you start messing with gravity on that scale and it could throw things out of wack. The moon is not so small that gravity and mass would be negligable. Assuming we could even get the moon moving (you would need continuous thrust...asteroids acting like pool balls are not appropriate for this), once a mass of that size gets moving toward the planet the amount of power needed to reverse it would increase as the gravitation pull increases...pretty soon bam, the earth a practically lifeless blob of molten rock.

It took the moon ~4.5 billion years to get where it is now...let's leave it there lol.

 

[JTsyo]

The future of man is in space, not the sea. Why waste money on the sea?

Have you not read Hitchhiker's Guide? We much learn more about the dolphins, they already hold the secret for space travel.

Cleaning the moon before wrapping in foil is pointless. The dust would be orders of magnitude less than the natural feature on the moon. You would have to pave over all those features to get a smooth surface.

Been awhile since I was reminded about the Tick, that was a great show. :biggrin:

 

[JTsyo]

Which is exactly the age of the earth!

you mean we could have been done by now?

 

[JTsyo]

The oscillator probably has the best chance of actually shattering it.

If you want some other ideas, look here. The moon would be easier than the earth, though.

Didn't mythbusters do a show on it and busted it as an earthquake machine?

 

[jackofalltrades]

Just build a theme park there!

 

[saied129]

great article!!!! wow!

 

[McLovin]

Just build a theme park there!

Full of blackjack and hookers!

Meticulously and systematically deconstructed

You will need: a mass driver. A mass driver is a sort of oversized electromagnetic railgun, which was once proposed as a way of getting mined materials back from the Moon to Earth - basically, you just load it into the driver and fire it upwards in roughly the right direction. Your design should be powerful enough to hit escape velocity of 11 kilometres per second.

At a million tonnes of mass driven out of the Earth's gravity well per second, this would take 189,000,000 years. One mass driver would suffice, but ideally, lots (i.e. trillions) would be employed simultaneously. Alternatively you could use space elevators or conventional rockets.

Method: Basically, what we're going to do here is dig up the Earth, a big chunk at a time, and boost the whole lot of it into orbit. Yes. All six sextillion tonnes of it.

We will ignore atmospheric considerations. Compared with the extra energy needed to overcome air friction, it would be a relatively trivial step to completely burn away the Earth's atmosphere before beginning the process. Even with this done, however, this method would require a - let me emphasize this - titanic quantity of energy to carry out. Building a Dyson sphere ain't gonna cut it here. (Note: Actually, it would. But if you have the technology to build a Dyson sphere, why are you reading this?)

Earth's final resting place: Many tiny pieces, some dropped into the Sun, the remainder scattered across the rest of the Solar System.

Feasibility rating: 6/10. If we wanted to and were willing to devote resources to it, we could start this process RIGHT NOW. Indeed, what with all the gunk left in orbit, on the Moon and heading out into space, we already have done.

Source: this method arose when Joe Baldwin and I knocked our heads together by accident.

LOL :thumbsup:

 

[Infraction Jack]

I say we destroy the moon and replace it with a Jello pudding formed likeness of Bill Cosby.