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Thank God. Everytime I visit Richardson, Texas I feel like English is fast becoming a foreign language. Unacceptable. I fear business Republicans will try to reverse this trend so that they can have more cheap labor for their factories. Outsourcing isn't enough for these pricks. They hate America.

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Mexico-US migration slips after 40 years of growth
Migrants arriving at Nuevo Laredo, in the US (file pic) Tougher US border enforcement has kept away some illegal migrants


The rate of Mexican immigration to the US has stalled or maybe even gone into reverse, an analysis shows, ending a four-decade-long trend.

A Pew Hispanic Center study shows immigration began to slow five years ago and may have reversed by 2010.

Economic factors, increased border control, and lower Mexican birth rates were all cited as factors.

More than 12 million migrants entered the US from Mexico since 1970, more than half legally, the report says.

"Looking back over the entire span of US history, no country has ever seen as many of its people immigrate to this country as Mexico has in the past four decades," the report's authors note.

However, figures clearly show major changes to the long-term trend over the years 2005-2010.

A decade earlier, from 1995-2000, some 2.9 million Mexicans arrived in the US, with just 670,000 people leaving the country for Mexico - a net influx to the US of more than 2.2 million people.

Between 2005-2010, though, just 1.37 million arrived from Mexico - and 1.39 million left to cross the southern border.

"While it is not possible to say so with certainty, the trend lines within this latest five-year period suggest that return flow to Mexico probably exceeded the inflow from Mexico during the past year or two."
Deportation

The downward trend includes a sharp reduction in the number of illegal Mexican migrants living in the US, the report says.

The numbers of unauthorised Mexicans living in the US fell from nearly seven million in 2007 to 6.1 million in 2011, according to estimates based on US census data.

During those years the numbers of legal Mexican migrants in the US rose slightly, increasing by 200,000 to 5.8 million.

The data tallies with previous figures released by the US government that showed the Obama administration deporting record numbers of illegal immigrants for three successive years from 2009.

According to data in the Pew report, a "significant minority" of the 1.3 million people - between 5% and 35% - who left the US for Mexico did not leave the country voluntarily.

The issue of immigration is a sensitive one in a presidential election year.

New immigration laws in several states, including Alabama and Arizona, have placed a heavy focus on efforts to crack down on illegal immigration by requiring individuals to present valid US documents.

Backers of the new laws say the requirement to present documents encourages people without the legal right to be in the US to leave the country of their own accord.

That process of attrition was referred to as "self-deportation" during this year's Republican primary season.

Arizona's law is being challenged in the US Supreme Court on Wednesday.

Presumptive Republican nominee Mitt Romney polls badly among Latino voters, while President Barack Obama generally retains broad support despite his stern deportation policy.
 
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Wait, I heard for years that this was an unprecedented Mexican invasion that was coming to destroy America, that nothing would stop it and that the only thing we could do is create an alligator manned flaming chainsaw fence that would kill brown people and feed them to Joe Arpaio.

What happened?
 
What? What point are you trying to make?

People who lived in what is now known as Texas spoke native and foreign languages long before the official language became English. The fact you're offended by people speaking their native language is quite racist.
 
Wait, I heard for years that this was an unprecedented Mexican invasion that was coming to destroy America, that nothing would stop it and that the only thing we could do is create an alligator manned flaming chainsaw fence that would kill brown people and feed them to Joe Arpaio.

What happened?

Pressure at the border and pressure at the interior.
 
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Is California going somewhere?

'They' are not going anywhere. If the population increase stopped tomorrow, that would merely limit the extent of the land grab, not reclaim the land they already have.

ESL Americans will continue to contribute a significant portion of the Southwest.
 
People who lived in what is now known as Texas spoke native and foreign languages long before the official language became English. The fact you're offended by people speaking their native language is quite racist.

Richardson is in northern Texas, not anywhere near the border. Even with that said, I shouldn't have to speak Spanish in an American country for me to get basic services.
 
Richardson is in northern Texas, not anywhere near the border. Even with that said, I shouldn't have to speak Spanish in an American country for me to get basic services.

What basic services are you talking about? I highly doubt you must speak Spanish to get those basic services, but even if you had to why should you be able to dictate the language spoken in your transactions?
 
Richardson is in northern Texas, not anywhere near the border. Even with that said, I shouldn't have to speak Spanish in an American country for me to get basic services.

I know where Richardson is located within Texas and even that part of Texas was under Mexican/Spanish rule prior to it's independence. I find it hard to believe you have to speak Spanish to get any basic services unless you go into an authentic Mexican restaurant.
 
So is the article trying to say we dont need to secure the border now ? I disagree, terrorism and disease by itself is a good enough reason to secure the border so that we know who is coming here [and with what].

Also, immigration from Mexico may be slowing but that doesn't mean the vast number of countries south of Mexico is going to slow down. Salvadorians, Nicaraguans, Panamanians are all becoming more common. Their economies are worse than Mexico's is to...So the long term scenario might be that Mexican illegal immigration drops but the ball will be picked up by their neighbors to the South.

The bottom line has signs pointing to the same thing - Secure the borders, or at least try to. Our attempts so far have been pitiful and half hearted, Democrat/Republican greed has made it almost impossible to secure it let alone deport illegals.
 
What basic services are you talking about? I highly doubt you must speak Spanish to get those basic services, but even if you had to why should you be able to dictate the language spoken in your transactions?

I know where Richardson is located within Texas and even that part of Texas was under Mexican/Spanish rule prior to it's independence. I find it hard to believe you have to speak Spanish to get any basic services unless you go into an authentic Mexican restaurant.

When I go to the local Kroger or Albertson, I shouldn't have to use a foreign language to order something from the deli. Unacceptable.
 
What basic services are you talking about? I highly doubt you must speak Spanish to get those basic services, but even if you had to why should you be able to dictate the language spoken in your transactions?

While there is no official language in the U.S., could it be that English is the default? Especially considering that is the language base used to teach in all of K-12 and higher EDU in the U.S.? So yes, he should be able to expect english for basic services - ANYWHERE within our borders.
 
When I go to the local Kroger or Albertson, I shouldn't have to use a foreign language to order something from the deli. Unacceptable.


Idk about that one, English is as foreign as Spanish is, both languages come from Europe afterall. Navajo on the other hand is A'ok since its native. Right ? right.
 
Idk about that one, English is as foreign as Spanish is, both languages come from Europe afterall. Navajo on the other hand is A'ok since its native. Right ? right.

No. We conquered therefore we set the rules. We are the rules. The native Americans were just caretakers. They never really controlled this nation.
 
People who lived in what is now known as Texas spoke native and foreign languages long before the official language became English. The fact you're offended by people speaking their native language is quite racist.

your lack of knowledge of the English language is quite disturbing. when did Spanish become a race?
 
When I go to the local Kroger or Albertson, I shouldn't have to use a foreign language to order something from the deli. Unacceptable.

I've shopped at HEB, Kroger, or Randalls in Houston, El Paso, Corpus Christi, Lubbock, Amarillo, and San Antonio areas and I've never had to speak Spanish to get anything from the deli, meat, or produce departments.
 
Unacceptable.

This reminds me of the Cheese Only Pizza Thread over in OT where a million individual idiots wondered in to pronounce to the deluded rest, the real nature of the ONE TRUE PIZZA, all one million of them.

Could it possibly be that what is unacceptable is just a matter of opinion? No, that couldn't be.
 
This reminds me of the Cheese Only Pizza Thread over in OT where a million individual idiots wondered in to pronounce to the deluded rest, the real nature of the ONE TRUE PIZZA, all one million of them.

Could it possibly be that what is unacceptable is just a matter of opinion? No, that couldn't be.

No shit!
 
Is California going somewhere?

'They' are not going anywhere. If the population increase stopped tomorrow, that would merely limit the extent of the land grab, not reclaim the land they already have.

ESL Americans will continue to contribute a significant portion of the Southwest.


Wut?
 
The native Americans were just caretakers. They never really controlled this nation.




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When I go to the local Kroger or Albertson, I shouldn't have to use a foreign language to order something from the deli. Unacceptable.

I sincerely doubt that you would be unable to order from the deli of a major US supermarket chain in English.
 
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