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cytg111

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Yeah, I've used induction and gas and I'm sticking with gas. The extractor hood is running if I'm frying anything regardless of the heat source so I'm really not worried about fumes (which you shouldn't be getting a lot of if your gas hob is maintained). A wok on induction is a miserable experience.

Physics is physics, so you're not gonna get something equivalent to flames running up the sides, IANAC, still I imagine with enough conductive material you can get close

 
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[DHT]Osiris

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You know it is possible to run new electric lines without damaging interior walls, right, esp for a stove?

Of course you do but that fact is too inconvenient for your unhinged diatribe, as usual.
How would you go about doing that for a stove that's on an island?
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Basement/crawlspace acess, or else it's the concrete saw or the (ugh) jackhammer route.
No basement, 'crawlspace' is about the width of a 2x4.

In my case I'm actually okay, the line runs through conduit so someone can get creative with a chaser line. It was more a dig at Mr Smarmy up there.
 

WelshBloke

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Physics is physics, so you're not gonna get something equivalent to flames running up the sides, IANAC, still I imagine with enough conductive material you can get close

The hob top induction friendly ones are all too heavy and have flat bottoms!
No one likes a flat bottom! Needs to be nice and round! :p
 
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sdifox

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How would you go about doing that for a stove that's on an island?

They are drop ins. And you install electrical service from below. chances are conduits are already in place, you just need to fish.
 
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K1052

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Err chances are the range and oven can be replaced without having to replace the granite. The copktop should be a drop in, just need to shutoff the gas valve and install electrical service to the induxtion range. Oven can stay as is.

Installing more service is the problem since the panel is full, not close to the kitchen, and making a run even if there was room would require a pain in the ass approvals process from the HOA. The oven is on a 50 amp circuit so when we redo the kitchen a slide in will work.
 

sdifox

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Installing more service is the problem since the panel is full, not close to the kitchen, and making a run even if there was room would require a pain in the ass approvals process from the HOA. The oven is on a 50 amp circuit so when we redo the kitchen a slide in will work.

err why is the panel full? also chances are the 50A line is good enough for both oven and cooktop. That is what normal electric range combo units get anyway. Why do you need HOA approval to upgrade electrical?
 
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K1052

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err why is the panel full? also chances are the 50A line is good enough for both oven and cooktop. That is what normal electric range combo units get anyway. Why do you need HOA approval to upgrade electrical?

Because they often are in multistory condo construction. The 50 amp circuit will power an integrated range/oven but not separate wall oven and cooktops. Major modifications to electrical or mechanicals require board approval per the regulations.
 
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hal2kilo

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Physics is physics, so you're not gonna get something equivalent to flames running up the sides, IANAC, still I imagine with enough conductive material you can get close

Yea, that's what I was thinking. You just need a wok with a wider than usual bottom. Thanks for the article, because my kitchen/dinning room project will get done this year!
 

Bitek

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For those that have induction cooktops, does the surface get scratched up at all? I like the idea of induction but I’ve seen tops that were hella scratched up from the pans.
It's a glass top, so I guess so if you were rough with it..

But we use these high temp silicone mats underneath the pans to keep everything clean, so nothing is scratched up
 
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Vic

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Just wanna add that once you learn how to wok popcorn, you literally cannot go back.
 
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HomerJS

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A fat black talking head was on Fox today claiming Biden is going to “grab your gas stove” which is a bald face lie

Lying is easy that’s why righties excel at it

I denigrated this guy because he next went on claim the new racism is against white males. As if they are the aggrieved party
 
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hal2kilo

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A fat black talking head was on Fox today claiming Biden is going to “grab your gas stove” which is a bald face lie

Lying is easy that’s why righties excel at it

I denigrated this guy because he next went on claim the new racism is against white males. As if they are the aggrieved party
Yea, I flipped by it yesterday, you'd think the story was just breaking. It's about a week old now.
 

MrSquished

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I would love to switch to induction. I wonder if my electric could handle it as it is set up now
 

Moonbeam

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I would love to switch to induction. I wonder if my electric could handle it as it is set up now
I would guess that an induction range would require 220 but you can get a single burner table top that will work on 120. I think 1800 Watts is popular but some require less. Naturally they won't be as powerful as a range. I think 3200 Watts for the most powerful. Going by memory so could be wrong.
 

nakedfrog

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I would love to switch to induction. I wonder if my electric could handle it as it is set up now
I'm planning to make the switch whenever it's time to replace my current one.
As far as gas versus electric, gas is better than a shitty electric, but if it's a decent electric, I don't really have a preference.
 

herm0016

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You know it is possible to run new electric lines without damaging interior walls, right, esp for a stove?
Of course you do but that fact is too inconvenient for your unhinged diatribe, as usual.
you know every house is different right? have had to cut plenty of drywall to run new circuits. I'm an electrician.

If a panel is full and does not allow tandem's (depends on model and manufacture) it can be very expensive to replace or move circuits to a new subpanel to free up space. start adding an electric car and heat pumps and you will be bumping up against a 100 amp service very quickly.

we will switch to induction when the time comes, because we want to maximize our benefit from 10.8 kw of solar.

banning gas in a lot of the country is stupid, as it's going to require a lot of power to heat a neighborhood even with heat pumps when it's 20 or 30 below zero for a couple days. most heat pumps are not efficient at all, nearing the efficiency of resistance heat at low outdoor temps.

with electric cars, not everyone will plug in at the same time, and the high charge rates usually only last a shortish amount of time as the cars charge and the rate follows the batteries charging rate curves. We have an electric car as well. its not quite the same scenario.

Lewisville CO is making everyone rebuilding from the fire a year ago go full electric, and the power company is basically telling them that it's the city's problem when the regulations that were not thought through or discussed with the utility create infrastructure problems in a cold snap. the utility started replacing infrastructure before they adopted the new regs.

sure, in Berkley where the temp is mild all year its a good idea., or maybe Atlanta? or where ever. but not in MN, MI, CO, etc....
 

Paratus

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Just wanna add that once you learn how to wok popcorn, you literally cannot go back.
Wok popcorn? We eat a lot popcorn and use one of these:

stovetop-popcorn-popper-ss-6qt.jpg


In a wok wouldn’t the kernels go everywhere? Or did I just miss the joke?
 
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Moonbeam

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Wok popcorn? We eat a lot popcorn and use one of these:

stovetop-popcorn-popper-ss-6qt.jpg


In a wok wouldn’t the kernels go everywhere? Or did I just miss the joke?
You have to use a wok lid I would imagine. They are aluminum and dome shaped. You have to shake the wok like with stir fry with the handle instead of turning it like you do. The advantage I see is one less thing to store if you use a wok.

I used to use an air popper to avoid oil but just use a big pot with oil now. My woks are round bottom and I don't have gas. Bought a 15000 btu propane butane burned I will try outside when the weather is nice. Was a pain to find butane bottles a few months back and they won't them ship to my location on Amazon.
 

IronWing

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We use the lid from a large pot for a wok lid when making popcorn. It works.