They can pry my cave fire from my coal dead hands.

[HomerJS]

Let's bring back leaded gasoline.

Along with lead in paint and asbestos. Conservatives lead this country down Stupid Blvd

 

[Paratus]

Let's bring back leaded gasoline.

And asbestos filter cigarettes.

 

[feralkid]

I remember gasoline powered turtle neck sweaters.


Lousy Democrats...

 

[sandorski]

And asbestos filter cigarettes.

No finger burn and the taste of Virginia. What more can a Man ask for?

 

[Jaskalas]

You can’t upgrade your electrical service ever?

With most Americans living month to month, the prospect of replacing the 100amp breaker box is not something that would be considered unless absolutely necessary. Running a 220 line to the kitchen is part of the cost. And with a friend receiving a quote to replace a pipe for $10,000.... I can imagine a similar prospect to tear out the walls.

So no, unless it is funded by a program that would reliably cover the cost (up front discount, not a rebate) then replacing the gas stove is quite unlikely.
Especially as they are nothing new, nothing immediately dangerous, and the best danger they could come up with applies to other people (asthmatics) AND could be easily mitigated by better air flow. Something an order of magnitude cheaper than home remodeling.

 

[IronWing]

Moved to a place with gas going to the stove, for the first time in 15 years. Given the limited electrical input to the house, replacing it with electric will never be an option.
But before that, my entire childhood involved gas stoves.

What the hell are they going on about?
They say it is bad, but the articles seem piss poor at explaining the danger.

From the replies here... are you saying it has been found to cause asthma?
My understanding of asthma is that it is a genetic weakness that you are born with. Not caused by anything environmental.

Asthma is very much tied to environmental factors including air pollution.

 

[K1052]

I’ve read a little and I think the issue is you are burning gas which already can produce CO2 CO along with a smattering of more nasty chemicals from heating food and oil. Also throws a lot of small particulates into the air. All of which can exacerbate or cause respiratory problems.

They recommend running the exhaust fan whenever you cook.

For what it’s worth we just added a 5 burner gas stove 2 years ago and cannibalized our 240V stove line for the electric car charger.

Our condo has a gas cooktop/elec wall oven combo that I'd need to cut the granite counter and cabinetry to replace with an induction range...so I think its staying for a while. Might get a stand alone induction plate since we relatively rarely use more than one burner at a time. It's the only gas appliance in the whole place so could be worse.

 

[HomerJS]

With most Americans living month to month, the prospect of replacing the 100amp breaker box is not something that would be considered unless absolutely necessary. Running a 220 line to the kitchen is part of the cost. And with a friend receiving a quote to replace a pipe for $10,000.... I can imagine a similar prospect to tear out the walls.

So no, unless it is funded by a program that would reliably cover the cost (up front discount, not a rebate) then replacing the gas stove is quite unlikely.
Especially as they are nothing new, nothing immediately dangerous, and the best danger they could come up with applies to other people (asthmatics) AND could be easily mitigated by better air flow. Something an order of magnitude cheaper than home remodeling.

Isn't it great the authoritarian Biden administration isn't coming to take your gas stove? We should tell this to the Gobbels graduates @Fox.

 

[Brainonska511]

With most Americans living month to month, the prospect of replacing the 100amp breaker box is not something that would be considered unless absolutely necessary. Running a 220 line to the kitchen is part of the cost. And with a friend receiving a quote to replace a pipe for $10,000.... I can imagine a similar prospect to tear out the walls.

So no, unless it is funded by a program that would reliably cover the cost (up front discount, not a rebate) then replacing the gas stove is quite unlikely.
Especially as they are nothing new, nothing immediately dangerous, and the best danger they could come up with applies to other people (asthmatics) AND could be easily mitigated by better air flow. Something an order of magnitude cheaper than home remodeling.

There is a good chance you wouldn't need to upgrade electrical service to add an electric or induction cooktop. They would just have to run the electric line to the panel. In fact, the sum of all the circuits is allowed to exceed the total supply, because you're not running all circuits at 100% all the time.

 

[Homerboy]

Gas stoves are extremely bad for your health. I have one. Will be replacing it with an induction range as soon as I can afford it.

I actually learned that 13% of child asthma is attributed to gas stoves. That number floored me.
And yeah, gas stoves are horrible for you. Nothing like pumping volumes of nitrogen dioxide into your house constantly.
There's a reason why your gas furnace and dryer have outside exhausts.

 

[brycejones]

With most Americans living month to month, the prospect of replacing the 100amp breaker box is not something that would be considered unless absolutely necessary. Running a 220 line to the kitchen is part of the cost. And with a friend receiving a quote to replace a pipe for $10,000.... I can imagine a similar prospect to tear out the walls.

So no, unless it is funded by a program that would reliably cover the cost (up front discount, not a rebate) then replacing the gas stove is quite unlikely.
Especially as they are nothing new, nothing immediately dangerous, and the best danger they could come up with applies to other people (asthmatics) AND could be easily mitigated by better air flow. Something an order of magnitude cheaper than home remodeling.

It all depends on access the good news is electrical is much easier typically than plumbing.

 

[woolfe9998]

In addition to emitting CO2, gas stoves evidently leak methane when not in use. Methane is worse than CO2 in terms of climate change.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/energy/why-us-regulators-are-scrutinizing-gas-stoves/2023/01/11/a59dac64-91d5-11ed-90f8-53661ac5d9b9_story.html

I have one. I like it. But I'm all for offering rebates for people to replace them.

 

[hal2kilo]

Induction

I'm waiting for the heat pump version. /s

 

[hal2kilo]

I had a gas line run to my kitchen (didn't have one) to eventually replace my existing electric stove but I'm reconsidering for both the health and environmental aspects. But no way I'm sticking with these damn coils. They're terrible.

Someday I may actually have a true level cooking surface that can instantly simmer.

 

[HomerJS]

Liars..uh...I mean Republican caucus
'Faux handwringing': Officials debunk GOP claim that Democrats are 'coming for your gas stoves' (msn.com)

 

[Bitek]

I had a gas line run to my kitchen (didn't have one) to eventually replace my existing electric stove but I'm reconsidering for both the health and environmental aspects. But no way I'm sticking with these damn coils. They're terrible.

That was our choice, loved gas, but new house had horrid electric coil stove and no gas service.

Ended up going induction instead and it's freaking awesome. Now I feel about gas the same way I felt about coils. Would never go back, vastly inferior technology.

Good induction stoves are faster, more responsive and controllable, plus it's dead easy to clean. No black carbon marks on your pans or stove. No scraping charcoal bits.

Super easy and safe for kids to cook with. Nobody is burning themselves or the house down with hot elements or open flames.

We even cook on high temp ~silicon mats that just wipe up or even go in the dishwasher.

Cooking bacon? Paper towels all around the pan. Could even cook directly on paper if you didn't turn it up super high.

Heating is by heat pump too. Electric source is high % renewables and everything works great.

Only advantage to gas is it still works in power outages.

 

[Vic]

I love my gas stove, and I'm not giving it up, but at the same time the conservative outrage machine is pretty freakin silly. They just seem to go from one panic to the next.

No one is taking anyone's gas stove away, and Biden has said nothing on this issue. Yes, there are local govts and groups looking to phase out gas stoves, but that's not taking anyone's gas stove away either.

 

[WelshBloke]

I love my gas stove, and I'm not giving it up, but at the same time the conservative outrage machine is pretty freakin silly. They just seem to go from one panic to the next.

Yeah, I've used induction and gas and I'm sticking with gas. The extractor hood is running if I'm frying anything regardless of the heat source so I'm really not worried about fumes (which you shouldn't be getting a lot of if your gas hob is maintained). A wok on induction is a miserable experience.

 

[Vic]

Yeah, I've used induction and gas and I'm sticking with gas. The extractor hood is running if I'm frying anything regardless of the heat source so I'm really not worried about fumes (which you shouldn't be getting a lot of if your gas hob is maintained). A wok on induction is a miserable experience.

I haven't tried that but it doesn't surprise me. For most people, induction will work just fine. Your average American is more likely to get takeout or use their microwave than their stove anyway. But cooks use gas for a reason.

 

[Bitek]

Yeah, I've used induction and gas and I'm sticking with gas. The extractor hood is running if I'm frying anything regardless of the heat source so I'm really not worried about fumes (which you shouldn't be getting a lot of if your gas hob is maintained). A wok on induction is a miserable experience.

Any woks indoors are disappointing imo. Even indoor gas is too low btu with normal residential service to get restaurant style wok hei.

I take mine outside on a super high btu (150k) no nonsense propane burner from Asia. Fking flame thrower if you want it to be. Definitely got questions from the neighbors when I first got it

Do all your prep work, and have all the ingredients ready and reachable. Once your start, it goes fast.

https://www.seriouseats.com/outdoor-wok-burner-review

 

[hal2kilo]

Yeah, I've used induction and gas and I'm sticking with gas. The extractor hood is running if I'm frying anything regardless of the heat source so I'm really not worried about fumes (which you shouldn't be getting a lot of if your gas hob is maintained). A wok on induction is a miserable experience.

Dang. I was wondering about that.

 

[ivwshane]

For those that have induction cooktops, does the surface get scratched up at all? I like the idea of induction but I’ve seen tops that were hella scratched up from the pans.

 

[Meghan54]

With most Americans living month to month, the prospect of replacing the 100amp breaker box is not something that would be considered unless absolutely necessary. Running a 220 line to the kitchen is part of the cost. And with a friend receiving a quote to replace a pipe for $10,000.... I can imagine a similar prospect to tear out the walls.

So no, unless it is funded by a program that would reliably cover the cost (up front discount, not a rebate) then replacing the gas stove is quite unlikely.
Especially as they are nothing new, nothing immediately dangerous, and the best danger they could come up with applies to other people (asthmatics) AND could be easily mitigated by better air flow. Something an order of magnitude cheaper than home remodeling.

You know it is possible to run new electric lines without damaging interior walls, right, esp for a stove?

Of course you do but that fact is too inconvenient for your unhinged diatribe, as usual.

 

[cytg111]

Any woks indoors are disappointing imo. Even indoor gas is too low btu with normal residential service to get restaurant style wok hei.

I take mine outside on a super high btu (150k) no nonsense propane burner from Asia. Fking flame thrower if you want it to be. Definitely got questions from the neighbors when I first got it

Do all your prep work, and have all the ingredients ready and reachable. Once your start, it goes fast.

https://www.seriouseats.com/outdoor-wok-burner-review

I need one of those

 

[sdifox]

Our condo has a gas cooktop/elec wall oven combo that I'd need to cut the granite counter and cabinetry to replace with an induction range...so I think its staying for a while. Might get a stand alone induction plate since we relatively rarely use more than one burner at a time. It's the only gas appliance in the whole place so could be worse.

Err chances are the range and oven can be replaced without having to replace the granite. The copktop should be a drop in, just need to shutoff the gas valve and install electrical service to the induction range. Oven can stay as is.