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Thermaltake Silent Water - now $54.99 shipped from ZZF!

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Edit - this is now $54.99 shipped from ZipZoomFly..... for the price it's performance is excellent.

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FrozenCPU.com has the Thermaltake Silent Water CPU water cooling kit for $69.99 + shipping (was $11.34 for me to central florida from NY).

I've never gotten into water cooling, and I figured for this price it should be a fairly cheap and easy way to get my foot in the door.

Pretty good reviews from various sites around the net. Not a high-end solution by any means, but should be better than any air cooling and quieter too. Easy to install, etc.

Review Link 1

If ZZF is OOS then you can get it at NewEgg for a little more Link
 
The performance dosen't seem much better than the best air though, and water cooling brings some hassles with it.

The fact that it's been epoxied together is kind of annoying, because I'm pretty sure you could improve performance just by adding another reservoir to the system (what's with that super tiny little reservoir?).
 
Not much better than air? Click on "Review Link 1" and see how it competes with other much more expensive water-cooled units. What info are you coming across that suggests it's not much better than air? And aren't most good air units about $55 anyway these days? Or at least $40-$50.
 
Originally posted by: TekDemon
The performance dosen't seem much better than the best air though, and water cooling brings some hassles with it.

The fact that it's been epoxied together is kind of annoying, because I'm pretty sure you could improve performance just by adding another reservoir to the system (what's with that super tiny little reservoir?).
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Adding additional reservoir capacity does not add additional cooling, only increases the time required to attain max stable temps.
 
Originally posted by: OCNewbie
Not much better than air? Click on "Review Link 1" and see how it competes with other much more expensive water-cooled units. What info are you coming across that suggests it's not much better than air? And aren't most good air units about $55 anyway these days? Or at least $40-$50.
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Dude, that one review has it being compared against the intel stock cooler for a 2.8Ghz P4. That does not at all represent what the best heatpiped air coolers can do.

Go read other reviews before you claim it to be much better than air lol.

Most of the reviews I found compared it to not-so-great air coolers too. Up against the top of the line air coolers it's basically like 1-2 degrees ahead.

And I'll post a link later to the most up-to-date review, where it went against AMD's 4-heatpipe retail heatsink and some other modern cooler with 6 heatpipes. For some reason I can't find it on google now?!?
 
Originally posted by: Cardio
Originally posted by: TekDemon
The performance dosen't seem much better than the best air though, and water cooling brings some hassles with it.

The fact that it's been epoxied together is kind of annoying, because I'm pretty sure you could improve performance just by adding another reservoir to the system (what's with that super tiny little reservoir?).
Click to expand...


Adding additional reservoir capacity does not add additional cooling, only increases the time required to attain max stable temps.
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While this is somewhat true, if you add a big enough reservoir it'll keep you from hitting the stable max for quite a while.

Also, keep in mind that heat will leave the larger reservoir-not just from the radiator. So in reality it will actually lower the stable max temp in addition to merely keeping the temps from hitting their stable max for a longer while.

If you rigged up a 5 gallon jug of sorts that you placed external to the case, it would pretty noticably lower your temps. You could probably run for quite a while before it started to plateau, and even then the plateau would be lower than what the kit would otherwise get.

 
Originally posted by: TekDemon
Originally posted by: OCNewbie
Not much better than air? Click on "Review Link 1" and see how it competes with other much more expensive water-cooled units. What info are you coming across that suggests it's not much better than air? And aren't most good air units about $55 anyway these days? Or at least $40-$50.
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Dude, that one review has it being compared against the intel stock cooler for a 2.8Ghz P4. That does not at all represent what the best heatpiped air coolers can do.

Go read other reviews before you claim it to be much better than air lol.

Most of the reviews I found compared it to not-so-great air coolers too. Up against the top of the line air coolers it's basically like 1-2 degrees ahead.

And I'll post a link later to the most up-to-date review, where it went against AMD's 4-heatpipe retail heatsink and some other modern cooler with 6 heatpipes. For some reason I can't find it on google now?!?
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http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?ArticleId=15601&PageId=2
Stock AMD HeatsinK: 52C
Thermaltake Silent Water: 39C

Keep in mind that the fan is running at full speed and it definately isn't "silent". Anyway it looks great for the price.


 
Originally posted by: TekDemon
Dude, that one review has it being compared against the intel stock cooler for a 2.8Ghz P4.
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What it does compare it to is a $260 SwiftTech unit, and 3 more WATER-cooled units from $130 and higher, and it's within 5C of the $260 unit under full load. I'd find it hard to believe that any air-cooled unit could approach this level of cooling. Certainly not for around $55 total shipped cost.

If you really wish to threadcrap provide some real links showing this product at $55 is a bad deal.
 
This puts water cooling in the same price arena as air cooling. Definitely a hot... er... COOL deal. (Sorry, couldn't resist the pun)
 
just remember you get what you pay for 🙂 I'm still using my koolance. I would have upgraded to a new custom water cooling system but I moved to a new house and the ac vents are on the floor. Needless to say I get better temps if not I match them.

Check out xtreme forums for a better review of this product. It's still pretty decent for the price.
 
I hope those vents don't heat your house too. Because in the winter it might be in for some trouble. One question: can you get additions tubes and mounts and connect it to video card too. I know this would over load it for OC'er. But I just like the idea of one 120 fan cooling my whole systems. I'm looking for quiet not power.

I would not mind added some other fans to the case, but I know my cpu fan and video card fan is 80% of the sound.

 
Originally posted by: TekDemon
Originally posted by: Cardio
Originally posted by: TekDemon
The performance dosen't seem much better than the best air though, and water cooling brings some hassles with it.

The fact that it's been epoxied together is kind of annoying, because I'm pretty sure you could improve performance just by adding another reservoir to the system (what's with that super tiny little reservoir?).
Click to expand...


Adding additional reservoir capacity does not add additional cooling, only increases the time required to attain max stable temps.
Click to expand...
While this is somewhat true, if you add a big enough reservoir it'll keep you from hitting the stable max for quite a while.

Also, keep in mind that heat will leave the larger reservoir-not just from the radiator. So in reality it will actually lower the stable max temp in addition to merely keeping the temps from hitting their stable max for a longer while.

If you rigged up a 5 gallon jug of sorts that you placed external to the case, it would pretty noticably lower your temps. You could probably run for quite a while before it started to plateau, and even then the plateau would be lower than what the kit would otherwise get.
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I take it your not a water cooler...
a reservoir will dissipate heat, however it is such a small ammount it is completly pointless (unless you have a hot water sized tank for a reservoir -80 gallon).

You might as well not use silicon tubes, and use aluminum piping...lol

You would actually be upgrading this kit if you put a faster fan on it, changed the water-block, but a better rad. on it, and so on...

And water dissipates heat so quickly that the idea above about it slowing down the warm up time (when adding a reservoir), is correct, however it is also pointless...I mean who cares about an extra 15 seconds of 1 degree lower temps...

 
If your looking for an easy cheap watercooling startup experience, this is the kit for you...you will get used to watercooling, and you will be hungry to build your own custom setup...because your custom setup will be fun to build too 🙂
 
After looking this over I not even sure it this really water cooling setup.
It has no real reservoir. This seems to me to be more of a heat pipe with long pipeing.

I guess the piper has alot of water so better then a heat pipe, but with out reservior it jsut not up to water cooling standards.

With that said I might be getting it. I going to add block to my video card too and see if I can get awya with cooling off both with. The setup should be under $100 to cool both. I will let people know how it turns out.

EDIT:
Better deal
Looks like Ii'm going for this instead. I might have to replace the radiator fan for a 120mm one for quieter operation.

 
will this perform better than my xp90 on my opteron 146? If so that might be cool maybe i can push a few more mhz
 
Originally posted by: zikronix
will this perform better than my xp90 on my opteron 146? If so that might be cool maybe i can push a few more mhz
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Take a peek at these results: http://www.pcmoddingmy.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.368.4

Opty 144 @ 2800 MHz @ 1.488v.....max temp 44C @ 1300rpm in 80F ambient air! I would say that is pretty good performance. (41C at 2500rpm)

My Opty 146 @ 2800 MHz @ 1.400v has a max temp of 52C in 80F ambient using XP-90 with AS5.

Both the reviewer and me using DFI Ultra-d's so the temp sensors should be similiar. 8 degrees difference is pretty impressive for $55.....
 
yea thats pretty good. hmm i had to buy it form new egg...took me up to 67.00 but now i need to cancel the ultra x infity 600w ps i ordered this morning for 60.00...I can afford one but not both
 
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