Thermaltake Big Typhoon HSF review

[Avalon]

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This thing is a beast, and even seems to significantly outpace the new Zalman CNPS 9500, in every category!

:Q

 

[Duvie]

I think I may look at getting one of those.....I would like to keep my temps on my X2 in the 40's even at 1.5-1.52v and I would run 24/7 at 2.6ghz.....

 

[mindwreck]

that thing is a bit too big for my tastes and it can't cool as well as my watercooling

 

[Bona Fide]

WOW :Q

Certainly beats the crap out of my XP-90, I think.

 

[Hacp]

Air duct blocks this hs/fan from runing in my case. I saw it at CompUSA and it was huge.

 

[Avalon]

Well, you figure if the Zalman 9500 can keep up with entry watercooling, this Big Typhoon should keep up with mid-level watercooling. Definitely not bad for air at all! It's huge, but if you can get it to fit in your system and it isn't $85 like the Zalman, this thing would rock. It seems like you could get even further benefit by adding a more powerful 120mm Panaflo to the HSF and taking off the TT fan. A little more noise for a 2500RPM Panaflo would cool a lot better.

*drool*

Hmm, I wonder how much this unit weighs? I like to keep my HSFs at 500 grams or under. It seems this wouldn't be too heavy, since the base is just pipes, and the main piece is aluminum. I wonder what makes it cool so much better than the Zalman under load? Any thoughts?

*EDIT*

$40 at Ewiz :Q
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[Unkno]

IIRC the big typhoon weighs at around 1KG and what's worse is that the weight is mainly at the very top of the heatsink not where the base is, which makes everything worse. IOW, the weight is not balanced.

 

[Duvie]

Not a big deal if you have seen the support plates that are mounted on for 775 mobos and the plates that are standard on the 939 mobos...Those plates are there for that purpose of the torque......XP90c is a heavy biatch and this is not much greater so it should be fine..

 

[Hacp]

sum1 buy it and compare the two.

 

[Avalon]

It's 813g. Pretty heavy if you ask me, but I've seen heavier heatsinks.

 

[Unkno]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Not a big deal if you have seen the support plates that are mounted on for 775 mobos and the plates that are standard on the 939 mobos...Those plates are there for that purpose of the torque......XP90c is a heavy biatch and this is not much greater so it should be fine..

uh no, the big typhoon would act like two/three times heavier than the XP90C because all of the weight is on the top of the heatsink, not near the base like the XP90C. Basic physics. The weight is not balanced. For example, which one would be better, a 5 pound weight on the palm of your hand, or a 3 pound weight on your fingers. Now pretend the socket is the palm of the hand...

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Avalon
$40 at Ewiz :Q
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Did you find that through some price search engine? Looking for it directly on their site gives a buck more, but through your link gives a lower price.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: Unkno

Originally posted by: Duvie
Not a big deal if you have seen the support plates that are mounted on for 775 mobos and the plates that are standard on the 939 mobos...Those plates are there for that purpose of the torque......XP90c is a heavy biatch and this is not much greater so it should be fine..

uh no, the big typhoon would act like two/three times heavier than the XP90C because all of the weight is on the top of the heatsink, not near the base like the XP90C. Basic physics. The weight is not balanced. For example, which one would be better, a 5 pound weight on the palm of your hand, or a 3 pound weight on your fingers. Now pretend the socket is the palm of the hand...

:thumbsup:

The moment arm of the Big Typhoon is a lot longer than that of the XP-90C. If I still remember my Statics than you multiply the moment arm (length from base to moment of inertia) by the weight of the object. So if the weight of the object is placed even twice as far from the base as another object than it will effectively place twice as much force on the base.

From the looks of it, the Big Typhoon could easily have a moment arm twice as long as the XP-90C.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: Avalon
Well, you figure if the Zalman 9500 can keep up with entry watercooling, this Big Typhoon should keep up with mid-level watercooling. Definitely not bad for air at all! It's huge, but if you can get it to fit in your system and it isn't $85 like the Zalman, this thing would rock. It seems like you could get even further benefit by adding a more powerful 120mm Panaflo to the HSF and taking off the TT fan. A little more noise for a 2500RPM Panaflo would cool a lot better.

*drool*

Hmm, I wonder how much this unit weighs? I like to keep my HSFs at 500 grams or under. It seems this wouldn't be too heavy, since the base is just pipes, and the main piece is aluminum. I wonder what makes it cool so much better than the Zalman under load? Any thoughts?

*EDIT*

$40 at Ewiz :Q
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Seems like the results are a little skewed. Here are the results from another site who compared it with an "OEM type cooler".

Here is another review comparing it to some other heatsinks.

And another. The results for 115W show the XP-120 and the Big typhoon on par. For the 170W results (Prescott owners i guess) the Big Typhoon actually beats the XP-120 by 4 degrees.

i don't know if I'd say it's on par with mid-level watercooling though. Here is a comparison I did between an XP-120 with a 103cfm fan and an mid-level H2O system. The XP-120 was nowhere close to say the least and that's with a hot GPU in the loop too.

 

[solofly]

I don't where you guys got the heavier at the top part but to me the base feels heavier. There is no need to be worried and the fan grill can be removed as well.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Unkno

Originally posted by: Duvie
Not a big deal if you have seen the support plates that are mounted on for 775 mobos and the plates that are standard on the 939 mobos...Those plates are there for that purpose of the torque......XP90c is a heavy biatch and this is not much greater so it should be fine..

uh no, the big typhoon would act like two/three times heavier than the XP90C because all of the weight is on the top of the heatsink, not near the base like the XP90C. Basic physics. The weight is not balanced. For example, which one would be better, a 5 pound weight on the palm of your hand, or a 3 pound weight on your fingers. Now pretend the socket is the palm of the hand...

My XP-90c is much heavier at the top as all of the fins are copper which is heavier then the aluminum model....It cannot have twice the length of the moment arm or it isn't going to fit in a case with a fan placed on top of it....It is clear from the picture if you guys can relate it to a XP-90C that this is not that much taller then the XP-90...NOtice how the plates say for use with LGA775 models just like all the other current big HS's...It will be just fine. Trust me this is their business and I will trust them over you arm chair quarterbacks trying to conjur high school physics when the picture tells it all...

 

[Elfear]

Not trying to offend Duvie, don't get all worked up. I'm sure you're right that your mobo should be just fine. I was just agreeing with Unkno that weight isn't everything and that the extra height of the Big Typhoon (103mm vs. 75mm) will cause more force on the mobo than the XP-90C.

I actually had the Silent Tower pictured in my mind instead of the Big Typhoon when I mentioned the length of the moment arm. The Big Typhoon's moment arm is probably only 40-50% longer instead of the 100% like I was saying. I guess I should have looked at the pic a little closer huh.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Elfear
Not trying to offend Duvie, don't get all worked up. I'm sure you're right that your mobo should be just fine. I was just agreeing with Unkno that weight isn't everything and that the extra height of the Big Typhoon (103mm vs. 75mm) will cause more force on the mobo than the XP-90C.

I actually had the Silent Tower pictured in my mind instead of the Big Typhoon when I mentioned the length of the moment arm. The Big Typhoon's moment arm is probably only 40-50% longer instead of the 100% like I was saying. I guess I should have looked at the pic a little closer huh.

I am not worked up I just know it wasn't twice as long, and I still dont think the top of it is as heavy as the xp-90c....I think most sckt 939 mobos have the backplate and therefore I only see issues with P4 users....

If the arm is 33% longer but the top weighs a 1/4 plus left it should be very similar. Any idea what the XP-120 is in relation to this typhoon???

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: Elfear
Not trying to offend Duvie, don't get all worked up. I'm sure you're right that your mobo should be just fine. I was just agreeing with Unkno that weight isn't everything and that the extra height of the Big Typhoon (103mm vs. 75mm) will cause more force on the mobo than the XP-90C.

I actually had the Silent Tower pictured in my mind instead of the Big Typhoon when I mentioned the length of the moment arm. The Big Typhoon's moment arm is probably only 40-50% longer instead of the 100% like I was saying. I guess I should have looked at the pic a little closer huh.

I am not worked up I just know it wasn't twice as long, and I still dont think the top of it is as heavy as the xp-90c....I think most sckt 939 mobos have the backplate and therefore I only see issues with P4 users....

If the arm is 33% longer but the top weighs a 1/4 plus left it should be very similar. Any idea what the XP-120 is in relation to this typhoon???

Height wise it's 63mm vs. 103mm, and weight wise it's 370g vs. 813g. I'd like to see some more tests comparing the two since the XP-120 has been one of the best coolers out there for awhile. Never had much respect for Thermaltake but it looks like they have a nice cooler with the Big Typhoon.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: Elfear
Not trying to offend Duvie, don't get all worked up. I'm sure you're right that your mobo should be just fine. I was just agreeing with Unkno that weight isn't everything and that the extra height of the Big Typhoon (103mm vs. 75mm) will cause more force on the mobo than the XP-90C.

I actually had the Silent Tower pictured in my mind instead of the Big Typhoon when I mentioned the length of the moment arm. The Big Typhoon's moment arm is probably only 40-50% longer instead of the 100% like I was saying. I guess I should have looked at the pic a little closer huh.

I am not worked up I just know it wasn't twice as long, and I still dont think the top of it is as heavy as the xp-90c....I think most sckt 939 mobos have the backplate and therefore I only see issues with P4 users....

If the arm is 33% longer but the top weighs a 1/4 plus left it should be very similar. Any idea what the XP-120 is in relation to this typhoon???

Height wise it's 63mm vs. 103mm, and weight wise it's 370g vs. 813g. I'd like to see some more tests comparing the two since the XP-120 has been one of the best coolers out there for awhile. Never had much respect for Thermaltake but it looks like they have a nice cooler with the Big Typhoon.

I hear you there...I have always been bit my TT's....THe XP120 os nice but just doesn't fit on many boards...

 

[solofly]

Originally posted by: Elfear
Not trying to offend Duvie, don't get all worked up. I'm sure you're right that your mobo should be just fine. I was just agreeing with Unkno that weight isn't everything and that the extra height of the Big Typhoon (103mm vs. 75mm) will cause more force on the mobo than the XP-90C.

90C = 690g without a fan

Typhoon = 813g all together

How nuch does a 92mm fan weigh? And then we'll know which unit puts more stress on the mobo.

 

[Elfear]

A 92mm Panaflo weighs 110g so they would be pretty close in weight.

 

[chinkgai]

this hsf has been in use at xtreme systems for months and months now...most people there agree it will outdo the thermalrights, unless the thermalrights were paired with very high cfm fans, then it may even out a bit...but at the expense of noise...

if i wasnt on water, i'd definitely try this out...since i was NOT impressed with my xp120 at all

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: chinkgai
this hsf has been in use at xtreme systems for months and months now...most people there agree it will outdo the thermalrights, unless the thermalrights were paired with very high cfm fans, then it may even out a bit...but at the expense of noise...

if i wasnt on water, i'd definitely try this out...since i was NOT impressed with my xp120 at all

there is an endorsement....I am thinking about getting it an dplacing this XP-90 in my second setup.....

How much ppl?? I guess I need to search a bit...

42.00 at one place but neweeg has them for 48.00 shipped...not to far off what I paid for the XP-90c.....

 

[chinkgai]

do a search for typhoon, you'll find a ton and everyone loves it