There was no Pangea...the Earth is growing.

[destrekor]

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: legoman666
sooooo. I didnt click the link but where is the mass coming from?

Exactly. And where did all the ocean water come from? On a much smaller planet there would be miles and miles of water over everything.

Earth could have been a straight rock planet at formation for all we know. Nowhere does science really claim water has been here forever. It came from comets laced with water, as the early solar system, after the star formed, was filled with a lot of junk that slowly collected into rings that then collected into planets.
But what's kind of comical about this whole thing, is.. does he ever (I stopped half way through) mention water 70 million years ago? I mean, there was a LOT of life 70 million years ago, which is the time period he claimed the Earth was smaller and all the continents locked together to form a solid rock surface over the whole Earth. Did he mention there ever been lakes, rivers, etc etc? No water = no life on Earth.
Not to mention this completely kills the primordial soup theory, unless of course there were still decently sized lakes where the soupy evolution occurred.

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: Aflac
Cool, but water has to come from somewhere. It can't just magically appear, covering 70% of the Earth's surface.

where do you think 6 billion years worth of rain went dumbass

 

[Modelworks]

Water supposedly came from comets.
Also speculation that viruses come from comets too.

Want to really be confused ?

Read about dark energy and how its pulling everything apart, making everything further from everything else, without changing what its effecting.
Theory is the universe ends as a big ice cube.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: ironwing
It is turtles all the way down.

Stephen Hawking concurs.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
So how is the earth growing?

There is a "white hole" at the core, which is dumping star matter from a distant black hole into the inside of our planet, also causing global warming.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
So how is the earth growing?

There is a "white hole" at the core, which is dumping star matter from a distant black hole into the inside of our planet, also causing global warming.

Ya'll really need to search on the writings of Charles Cagle, Chief Technical Officer for Singularity Technologies. All will be made clear.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: Aflac
Cool, but water has to come from somewhere. It can't just magically appear, covering 70% of the Earth's surface.

where do you think 6 billion years worth of rain went dumbass

:shocked:

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
Interesting. Where does all the water come from?

Try reading the first book of the Bible and I think you will know where the water came from . Keep this video in mind and reread the first book of the Bible. Kinda neat how it all fits together. I Love how if this is fact how its discredits the scientific community.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: ironwing

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
Interesting. Where does all the water come from?

There is a punch line somewhere that isn't covered in this video. I suspect it has something to do with the Earth's magnetic field and neutron production.

Earth is cold with solution?

Originally posted by: destrekor
Earth could have been a straight rock planet at formation for all we know. Nowhere does science really claim water has been here forever. It came from comets laced with water, as the early solar system, after the star formed, was filled with a lot of junk that slowly collected into rings that then collected into planets.
But what's kind of comical about this whole thing, is.. does he ever (I stopped half way through) mention water 70 million years ago? I mean, there was a LOT of life 70 million years ago, which is the time period he claimed the Earth was smaller and all the continents locked together to form a solid rock surface over the whole Earth. Did he mention there ever been lakes, rivers, etc etc? No water = no life on Earth.
Not to mention this completely kills the primordial soup theory, unless of course there were still decently sized lakes where the soupy evolution occurred.

Or imagine a more violent source of water: an atmosphere with loads of hydrogen and oxygen, or else pockets of hydrogen released from underground, and something makes a spark. Big, most excellent explosion, with lots of water production.

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Water supposedly came from comets.
Also speculation that viruses come from comets too.

Want to really be confused ?

Read about dark energy and how its pulling everything apart, making everything further from everything else, without changing what its effecting.
Theory is the universe ends as a big ice cube.

Go farther still into the future, to the point where protons and neutrons hit their half life (theorized to be something insanely long, like 10^39 years), and all that's left of the Universe is a bubble of electromagnetic energy.
Interestingly, it really is like a bubble, isn't it? Look to the border, and you get the microwave background radiation, sort of the leading edge of the shock wave. Within it, the density is extremely low - lots of space, with some EM radiation, and little pockets here and there where the energy formed into turbulent little eddies - subatomic particles which make up matter.

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
So how is the earth growing?

There is a "white hole" at the core, which is dumping star matter from a distant black hole into the inside of our planet, also causing global warming.

Yeah, it's always the black holes that are the problem. Racist!!!!

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Try reading the first book of the Bible and I think you will know where the water came from . Keep this video in mind and reread the first book of the Bible. Kinda neat how it all fits together. I Love how if this is fact how its discredits the scientific community.

Ahhh......so much to say that I probably shouldn't.
Just because one of Dr Seuss' Sneeches says that Yakko Warner is a real being doesn't make it true.

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: legoman666
sooooo. I didnt click the link but where is the mass coming from?

Exactly. And where did all the ocean water come from? On a much smaller planet there would be miles and miles of water over everything.

Earth could have been a straight rock planet at formation for all we know. Nowhere does science really claim water has been here forever. It came from comets laced with water, as the early solar system, after the star formed, was filled with a lot of junk that slowly collected into rings that then collected into planets.
But what's kind of comical about this whole thing, is.. does he ever (I stopped half way through) mention water 70 million years ago? I mean, there was a LOT of life 70 million years ago, which is the time period he claimed the Earth was smaller and all the continents locked together to form a solid rock surface over the whole Earth. Did he mention there ever been lakes, rivers, etc etc? No water = no life on Earth.
Not to mention this completely kills the primordial soup theory, unless of course there were still decently sized lakes where the soupy evolution occurred.

This is my point. If there was even 10% of the water we have now, the ENTIRE earth would have been underwater when all the continents were together. The oldest fossils are MARINE life, so there was water back then. A lot of water. The theory is not even remotely possible.

 

[dennilfloss]

This pile of crap does nothing to explain obduction and allochtonous terranes.

 

[EarthwormJim]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
Interesting. Where does all the water come from?

Try reading the first book of the Bible and I think you will know where the water came from . Keep this video in mind and reread the first book of the Bible. Kinda neat how it all fits together. I Love how if this is fact how its discredits the scientific community.

How does it discredit the scientific community? Some of the foundations of science is the ability to constantly challenge and/or change current theories.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
Interesting. Where does all the water come from?

Try reading the first book of the Bible and I think you will know where the water came from . Keep this video in mind and reread the first book of the Bible. Kinda neat how it all fits together. I Love how if this is fact how its discredits the scientific community.

You love how "if this is fact" it discredits the scientific community? That's the most worthless assertion I've heard today.

Do you also love how "if" the earth was indeed flat, that too would discredit the scientific community? Or "if" the laws of physics were to suddenly stop working, that would discredit the scientific community? How many pointless hypothetical situations do you want me to come up with? This is as petty and pointless a pseudo-intellectual exercise as the atheists claiming that "if" science were to disprove God, that would discredit Christianity.

Funny how you drive a car, live in a modern house, get treatment with modern medicine, and post on a computer operating on quantum mechanics principles, and yet you have a fundamental distrust of the scientific principles which make all of this possible. If I were you, I'd be terrified to get into a plane. Never know when those aeronautical engineers have based their designs on something as questionable as science!

Oh, and I'm a Christian who works in a lab at the University of Washington.

 

[RFtesla]

Yes, lets all listen to the man who draws comic books for a living. I would love to see this guy present his theory at AGU or GSA, it would be a good time had by all. As a geologist, I'd love to meet this guy someday.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: jagec

You love how "if this is fact" it discredits the scientific community? That's the most worthless assertion I've heard today.

Do you also love how "if" the earth was indeed flat, that too would discredit the scientific community? Or "if" the laws of physics were to suddenly stop working, that would discredit the scientific community? How many pointless hypothetical situations do you want me to come up with? This is as petty and pointless a pseudo-intellectual exercise as the atheists claiming that "if" science were to disprove God, that would discredit Christianity.

Funny how you drive a car, live in a modern house, get treatment with modern medicine, and post on a computer operating on quantum mechanics principles, and yet you have a fundamental distrust of the scientific principles which make all of this possible. If I were you, I'd be terrified to get into a plane. Never know when those aeronautical engineers have based their designs on something as questionable as science!

Oh, and I'm a Christian who works in a lab at the University of Washington.

"We accepted the products of science; we rejected its methods." - Carl Sagan


And for the hell of it, because it's a good read, Who Speaks for Earth?
Or check it out on Youtube, it's in multiple sections.

"Science is not perfect. It is often misused. It is only a tool, but it is the best tool we have -- self-correcting, ever changing, applicable to everything. With this tool we vanquish the impossible; with the methods of science we have begun to explore the cosmos."

 

[docmilo]

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
Interesting. Where does all the water come from?

Well, of course, the water was there all along. As the Earth grew, the water settled down. That's why all the ancient fish fossils are on land masses. Didn't you listen? :roll:

 

[RESmonkey]

Originally posted by: RFtesla
Yes, lets all listen to the man who draws comic books for a living. I would love to see this guy present his theory at AGU or GSA, it would be a good time had by all. As a geologist, I'd love to meet this guy someday.

That little fact is nuff to discredit everything.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Perry404
I have to say I think it's obvious land is moving or there would be no mountains.

Plate tectonics. Educate thyself on it. You've got a big crispy shell covering a gooey cream filling, under all kinds of pressure. Ever heard what happens when you microwave a jawbreaker? Some layers liquefy, while others don't. Pressure builds, and things can crack, with considerable force.

[edited for brevity]

In other words, he's right... land is moving.

 

[XZeroII]

I don't see why everyone is so upset about this? I mean, a couple hundred years ago the though that the continents fit together was grounds for death. Why is it so absured that we could learn more and eventually discover that this guy was at least partially right?

 

[BeauJangles]

Youtube should start it's own online university for this crap.

 

[cavemanmoron]

Originally posted by: Fritzo
This makes sense. This is why people are getting fatter...they're part of the earth and they're expanding too!

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I don't see why everyone is so upset about this? I mean, a couple hundred years ago the though that the continents fit together was grounds for death. Why is it so absured that we could learn more and eventually discover that this guy was at least partially right?

People are afraid of change I dont get it either... Thinking the earth was round and orbited around the sun used to be outrageous too... Its specially disturbing coming from people interested in science - those should have the most open of minds

I welcome any theory someone might have, while it may be far from the truth, theres always some bit that fits, and might be the key to a puzzle somewhere else

Actually, science is where it is right now because of people that came out with something no one thought before, and thats how we will keep evolving... If we just relied on the "closed mindedness" of ATOT we would still be in the stone age

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I don't see why everyone is so upset about this? I mean, a couple hundred years ago the though that the continents fit together was grounds for death. Why is it so absured that we could learn more and eventually discover that this guy was at least partially right?

Where is the volume coming from? It has to come from SOMEwhere.

Plate tectonics were controversial because everyone had operated under the assumption of a stationary crust, and so it was a bit of a shock to hear the new theory. But there were few valid scientific objections...people wanted a mechanism, and they came up with one.

As for this "theory"...if he can come up with a MECHANISM for why the earth is "growing", and it actually fits, maybe I'll give it a chance. But I can't think of one. Obviously the mass of the earth isn't increasing, and given what we know about the earth's interior, I can't think of any sort of reaction or structural rearrangement which would produce the increase in volume necessary to pull the plates apart as he describes.

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Perry404
I have to say I think it's obvious land is moving or there would be no mountains.

Plate tectonics. Educate thyself on it. You've got a big crispy shell covering a gooey cream filling, under all kinds of pressure. Ever heard what happens when you microwave a jawbreaker? Some layers liquefy, while others don't. Pressure builds, and things can crack, with considerable force.

[edited for brevity]

In other words, he's right... land is moving.

Umm...I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're just being cute.

But if not, I would just like to point out that no one is disputing that plates move. The issue of contention, and the reason that he is almost certainly wrong, is that he claims the earth is GROWING to force the plates to move. The current model, and much more likely mechanism, is that seafloor spreading and subduction is what allows the plates to move.

Even crazy people usually get a couple of things right. But those are never the issue.

 

[Born2bwire]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself

Originally posted by: XZeroII
I don't see why everyone is so upset about this? I mean, a couple hundred years ago the though that the continents fit together was grounds for death. Why is it so absured that we could learn more and eventually discover that this guy was at least partially right?

People are afraid of change I dont get it either... Thinking the earth was round and orbited around the sun used to be outrageous too... Its specially disturbing coming from people interested in science - those should have the most open of minds

I welcome any theory someone might have, while it may be far from the truth, theres always some bit that fits, and might be the key to a puzzle somewhere else

I think the first point of contention is that other than being able to make animations that can magically grow a solid ball into the modern day Earth, there isn't a shred of theory or proof presented in the video to back up what he's spouting.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
Interesting. Where does all the water come from?

Try reading the first book of the Bible and I think you will know where the water came from . Keep this video in mind and reread the first book of the Bible. Kinda neat how it all fits together. I Love how if this is fact how its discredits the scientific community.

How does it discredit the scientific community? Some of the foundations of science is the ability to constantly challenge and/or change current theories.

Read about creation and I don't want to hear all this in 6 days. God doesn't keep track of time why should He/She /It.

Bible says waters were beneth the earth and above the earth. How does this discredit the scientific community. Were to begin .

I use just one example . Lets pretend the bible creation story is resonably accurate.

If water resided above the earth . Than radio carbon date . Would be off Big time. As direct sunlight didn't reach the earth. Imagine an earth were the air is thick with moisture. and the climate is the same every where. Nice a warm for repilian life.

When noeh was building the Ark people laughed because he said there was going to be a flood. Uptill this point it is thought that rain hasn't ever happened yet. After the Flood God promised noeh that he would never destroy the earth again with water. As a sign of this Noah seen the First rainbow ever. Further more not sure who it was But he was drinking the fruit of the Vine and became drunk . This also was a first. Now that direct sunlight could firmentate the fruit. Also sorts of small details tell a pretty accurte story of the earths history. The fact that in the creation record man was created last is a telling stoty in and of itself . A man making up a stoty placing man last in the creation record .

The history of man we know about that just don't jive, Man would have placed himself first among living organism not last. WE all know who men are right.