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There was no Pangea...the Earth is growing.

HeXploiT

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Thought some would be interested in this argument.
I have formed no opinion as I just found the video and thought it was very interesting as it's a view I'd not heard nor even conceived of until now.
I am curious what everyones thoughts and initial impressions of this theory are.

Earth is growing.
 
Originally posted by: legoman666
sooooo. I didnt click the link but where is the mass coming from?

I think the focus was more on increasing volume then increasing mass.
How it would do this if the rotational speed of the Earth weren't increasing I don't know.
 
This makes sense. This is why people are getting fatter...they're part of the earth and they're expanding too!
 
Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski
Originally posted by: Perry404
Originally posted by: legoman666
sooooo. I didnt click the link but where is the mass coming from?

I think the focus was more on increasing volume then increasing mass.

which means decreasing density

Yes(I edited that post).
"How it would do this if the rotational speed of the Earth weren't increasing I don't know"
 
Originally posted by: legoman666
sooooo. I didnt click the link but where is the mass coming from?

Exactly. And where did all the ocean water come from? On a much smaller planet there would be miles and miles of water over everything.


 
That was one of the most irritating videos I've ever seen. His voice, the way he spoke, really got on my nerves as he never offered any evidence for his conclusions. 'This must be that way,' 'this happens, it happens!' but there was no proof. The same contracting and expanding model of the Earth must've been shown 1000 times.
 
My brain shrank again. It is okay for him to squish his continents around like silly puddy, or even worse, he doesn't seems to worried about conservation of mass, but subduction is bad?
 
Oh not this again.

EARTH IS FLAT TOOOO OMG TEH NOES!!!!

Oh, and it's turtles all the way down.



Originally posted by: Perry404
I have to say I think it's obvious land is moving or there would be no mountains.
Plate tectonics. Educate thyself on it. You've got a big crispy shell covering a gooey cream filling, under all kinds of pressure. Ever heard what happens when you microwave a jawbreaker? Some layers liquefy, while others don't. Pressure builds, and things can crack, with considerable force.

While Earth isn't about to blow up, that pressure does keep the crust fractured, and since the pieces are floating atop a big sea of pressurized goop, there's going to be a little bit of jostling around. Sometimes things bump into each other. We tiny humans think this gentle bumping can be insanely destructive, as it causes the ground to shake a few feet this way and that, or it causes little ripples throughout the ocean, but we call them "huge" because they're several times our tiny height.
Or sometimes one of these plates gets squished underneath another one, and as it stays down there, it heats up and melts. Pressure builds from the other side, and forces even more of the plate down into the mantle - a subduction zone.

Volcanoes - pressure builds, and sometimes it finds a way out. We think of them as huge eruptions, but really, a lava flow to Earth is just a little bit of juice squirting through the surface, no big deal. You might pop a pimple and think nothing of it, but you've just disrupted the lives of millions of bacteria, cheerfully enjoying their little home in your face.

One of the points I'm making here with this sort of language is that people seem to have trouble grasping the size of Earth, relative to one person. As such, they have a tough time understanding how some of the larger scale processes work. They're used to working in terms of small things, like cars, or buildings. Tell them about plates that cover millions of square miles, and the process in their mind goes, "Big? Really big.....buffer overrun......rabbits are fuzzy....invalid theory." You get an error message and try to figure out some other reason.
Big plates doing all kinds of complex interactions, earthquakes, volcanoes, tectonic theory, pressure, heat......bleh. "Earth is getting bigger." That's nice and easy. I understand how things get bigger, like inflating a balloon. Easy. I can understand it so it must be right.
Some of these things aren't too tough to understand - if you can change your scale of thinking, move away from the tiny human world, and look on a geological, or astronomical scale.

The only grain of truth, by comparison, is truly a grain - Earth IS growing. Every day, interplanetary dust rains down on us, tons of it every day. Tons. Tens of thousands of kilograms. Earth's mass? Google's answer to that: 5.9742 × 10^24 kilograms. 10^3/10^24 = 0.000000000000000000001
Ain't gonna make a lot of difference. Earth still growing? Nope. The majority of that accretion took place billions of years ago. Leftover chunks that cause occasional impacts are dusty leftovers that haven't been swept up yet.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Oh not this again.

EARTH IS FLAT TOOOO OMG TEH NOES!!!!

Oh, and it's turtles all the way down.



Originally posted by: Perry404
I have to say I think it's obvious land is moving or there would be no mountains.
Plate tectonics. Educate thyself on it. You've got a big crispy shell covering a gooey cream filling, under all kinds of pressure. Ever heard what happens when you microwave a jawbreaker? Some layers liquefy, while others don't. Pressure builds, and things can crack, with considerable force.

While Earth isn't about to blow up, that pressure does keep the crust fractured, and since the pieces are floating atop a big sea of pressurized goop, there's going to be a little bit of jostling around. Sometimes things bump into each other. We tiny humans think this gentle bumping can be insanely destructive, as it causes the ground to shake a few feet this way and that, or it causes little ripples throughout the ocean, but we call them "huge" because they're several times our tiny height.
Or sometimes one of these plates gets squished underneath another one, and as it stays down there, it heats up and melts. Pressure builds from the other side, and forces even more of the plate down into the mantle - a subduction zone.

Volcanoes - pressure builds, and sometimes it finds a way out. We think of them as huge eruptions, but really, a lava flow to Earth is just a little bit of juice squirting through the surface, no big deal. You might pop a pimple and think nothing of it, but you've just disrupted the lives of millions of bacteria, cheerfully enjoying their little home in your face.

One of the points I'm making here with this sort of language is that people seem to have trouble grasping the size of Earth, relative to one person. As such, they have a tough time understanding how some of the larger scale processes work. They're used to working in terms of small things, like cars, or buildings. Tell them about plates that cover millions of square miles, and the process in their mind goes, "Big? Really big.....buffer overrun......rabbits are fuzzy....invalid theory." You get an error message and try to figure out some other reason.
Big plates doing all kinds of complex interactions, earthquakes, volcanoes, tectonic theory, pressure, heat......bleh. "Earth is getting bigger." That's nice and easy. I understand how things get bigger, like inflating a balloon. Easy. I can understand it so it must be right.
Some of these things aren't too tough to understand - if you can change your scale of thinking, move away from the tiny human world, and look on a geological, or astronomical scale.

The only grain of truth, by comparison, is truly a grain - Earth IS growing. Every day, interplanetary dust rains down on us, tons of it every day. Tons. Tens of thousands of kilograms. Earth's mass? Google's answer to that: 5.9742 × 10^24 kilograms. 10^3/10^24 = 0.000000000000000000001
Ain't gonna make a lot of difference. Earth still growing? Nope. The majority of that accretion took place billions of years ago. Leftover chunks that cause occasional impacts are dusty leftovers that haven't been swept up yet.

:thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: AmdEmAll
Interesting. Where does all the water come from?

There is a punch line somewhere that isn't covered in this video. I suspect it has something to do with the Earth's magnetic field and neutron production.
 
Cool, but water has to come from somewhere. It can't just magically appear, covering 70% of the Earth's surface.
 
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