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There are 5 types of alcoholics!!! Yes, count 'em, 5!!!!!!!!!

Xstatic1

Diamond Member
good golly, and here i thought "alcoholic" was a blanket term...


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories...ebmd/main2999567.shtml
(WebMD) New alcoholism research identifies five types of alcoholics and shows that young adults account for more than half of U.S. alcoholics.

The high percentage of young adults among alcoholics was unexpected, notes researcher Howard Moss, M.D., the associate director for clinical and translational research at the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism (NIAAA).

"While we knew that many young adults had problematic involvement with alcohol from our research on college-aged drinkers, we were certainly surprised by the proportion of alcohol-dependent individuals who fell into that young adult cluster," Moss tells WebMD.

In the journal Drug and Alcohol Dependence, Moss and colleagues describe the five types of alcoholics. But before you read those descriptions, keep Moss' advice in mind.

"We hope that if someone suspects they may have a problem with alcohol that they talk about this with their health care provider," Moss tells WebMD. "If the health care professional is uncomfortable with assessing alcohol problems (and we hope all such professionals are comfortable with these assessments) the individual should ask for a referral to an addictions specialist for an in-depth evaluation," he says.

Moss and colleagues studied data from 1,484 U.S. adults who took part in a national survey conducted by the NIAAA from 2001 to 2002. The study focused on alcohol dependence and also included questions about personality, family history of alcoholism and other substance use.

The researchers applied the survey's findings to the U.S. population. They estimate that in the year before the study, nearly 8 million people in the U.S. met the standard for a diagnosis of alcohol dependence.

Alcoholism is the nonmedical, popular term for alcohol dependence, notes Moss.

The study describes five subtypes of alcoholics.

The young adult subtype accounts for about 32 percent of U.S. alcoholics. They're young adults who rarely seek help for alcohol dependence. About 24 years old, they became alcoholics by age 20, on average. They drink less frequently than other alcoholics, but they tend to binge drink when they drink. This is the largest subtype.

The young antisocial subtype comprises 21 percent of U.S. alcoholics. They are 26 years old, on average. More than half have antisocial personality disorder. They tended to start drinking at 15 and became alcoholics by 18 ? earlier than other subtypes. They are
more likely to smoke tobacco and pot. The young antisocial subtype and the young adult subtype don't overlap, Moss tells WebMD.

The functional subtype accounts for about 19 percent of U.S. alcoholics. They're generally middle-aged, working adults who tend to have stable relationships, more education, and higher incomes than other alcoholics. They tend to drink every other day, often consuming five or more drinks on drinking days.

The intermediate familial subtype makes up nearly 19 percent of U.S. alcoholics. Nearly half have close relatives who are alcoholics. Alcoholics in this subtype typically began drinking by 17 and became alcoholics in their early 30s.

The chronic severe subtype is the rarest subtype, accounting for about 9 percent of U.S. alcoholics. This subtype mainly includes men, has the highest divorce rate, and frequently includes users of illicit drugs.

"When most people think of alcoholics, they think of middle-aged men with a profile similar to our chronic severe subtype," Moss tells WebMD. "Our data shows that alcoholism is more a disorder of youth than previously suspected."

Moss warns that while some alcoholic subtypes may function better than others, "in all cases, alcohol dependence must be viewed as a severe disease with a significant adverse impact on health and well-being."
 
Originally posted by: KLin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BigJ
Sounds like a load of horse shit.</end quote></div>

Sounds like denial to me. 😛

We'll continue this conversation after I run to the store and get some more beer
 
Most people will drink to unwind at night on a daily basis, and are NOT considered alcoholics. These people could easily not drink if they so choose, and suffer no ill effects if they go without a drink, but choose to drink to relax. My parents are like that, and I'll likely be like that.
Same goes for pot use.
people who work for medical journals tend to want to say everyone who uses a substance on a certain frequency and hold to a certain pattern, are then habitual users of said substance. It's a load of sh!t, and horrible research that does NOT delve into the psychological factor like it should. They look at hard, visible facts and declare their research is done.
 
Originally posted by: KLin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BigJ
Sounds like a load of horse shit.</end quote></div>

Sounds like denial to me. 😛

LOL....was thinkin' the same thing! 😀
 
Originally posted by: Xstatic1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KLin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BigJ
Sounds like a load of horse shit.</end quote></div>

Sounds like denial to me. 😛</end quote></div>

LOL....was thinkin' the same thing! 😀

What is it, something like 44% of college students binge drink? There's about 16 million college students in the US. Which means more than 7 million "young adult" and "young antisocial" type alcoholics.

Which means that to be in line with their subtypes, there would actually be over 14 million alcoholics in the US. Which means roughly 1 out of every 20 citizens in the US is an alcoholic (taking into account that his number also includes children).
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Xstatic1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KLin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BigJ
Sounds like a load of horse shit.</end quote></div>

Sounds like denial to me. 😛</end quote></div>

LOL....was thinkin' the same thing! 😀</end quote></div>

What is it, something like 44% of college students binge drink? There's about 16 million college students in the US. Which means more than 7 million "young adult" and "young antisocial" type alcoholics.

Which means that to be in line with their subtypes, there would actually be over 14 million alcoholics in the US. Which means roughly 1 out of every 20 citizens in the US is an alcoholic (taking into account that his number also includes children).

binge drinking =/ alcoholism
it can, however, lead to alcoholism if the user lets it
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BigJ
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Xstatic1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KLin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BigJ
Sounds like a load of horse shit.</end quote></div>

Sounds like denial to me. 😛</end quote></div>

LOL....was thinkin' the same thing! 😀</end quote></div>

What is it, something like 44% of college students binge drink? There's about 16 million college students in the US. Which means more than 7 million "young adult" and "young antisocial" type alcoholics.

Which means that to be in line with their subtypes, there would actually be over 14 million alcoholics in the US. Which means roughly 1 out of every 20 citizens in the US is an alcoholic (taking into account that his number also includes children).</end quote></div>

binge drinking =/ alcoholism
it can, however, lead to alcoholism if the user lets it

I know it doens't, but this description:

They're young adults who rarely seek help for alcohol dependence. About 24 years old, they became alcoholics by age 20, on average. They drink less frequently than other alcoholics, but they tend to binge drink when they drink. This is the largest subtype.

fits the majority of college binge drinkers pretty well.
 
Originally posted by: BigJ
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KLin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BigJ
Sounds like a load of horse shit.</end quote></div>

Sounds like denial to me. 😛</end quote></div>

We'll continue this conversation after I run to the store and get some more beer

:laugh:
 
Really sounds like they're grasping at straws to make a news story... it's also kind of frightening that someone who has a few drinks once a month is essentially considered an alcoholic and subject to the FUD and stigma attached to the word. It's in line with the direction our nation is headed in ("our" being the probably 80+ % of ATOT who lives in the US).
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
binge drinking =/ alcoholism
it can, however, lead to alcoholism if the user lets it

Sure, go ahead and make up your own definition for alcoholism. "I'm not an alcoholic because I made up my own definition of alcoholism"


For what it's worth, one of the simplest definitions is "A person who drinks alcoholic beverages habitually and to excess." Let's see... regularly drinks on the weekends? Check. Binge drinks, i.e. well in excess? Check. Yep, you're an alcoholic like all the other binge drinkers. Alcoholism doesn't necessarily mean you're addicted to alcohol.

Of course, you're all a bunch of smart college kids; therefore that gives you academic license to make up your own definition so that it doesn't apply to you.

Social drinking: going out on the weekend or evening and having a few drinks
Alcoholic: dwelling on which brand of beer tastes good, but is cheap enough that you can afford to drink a 12 pack. Quite frankly, a large percentage of alcoholics are college students. If you're legally drunk 5 or 6 or more days a month, maybe it's time to step back and re-evaluate your drinking habits?


Note: by this point, I think my post about your drinking habits may have annoyed you. If so, google "Cage questionnaire", see question 2 for identifying alcoholics. 😛 😉
(also note, to a great degree, I'm just kidding, leading up to this past sentence.)
 
We have a great opportunity to find out what kind of alcoholics frequent ATOT here.

WHy dont you create a poll so we can find out

Exemple:


Are you an alcoholic?

If so which type?
Young adult?
Young ANti social?
fuctional?
intermediate familial
chronic severe

i don't bwelieve in anay of this sh1t!!!!hic

WHats wrong with getting drunk?

 
Originally posted by: Number1
We have a great opportunity to find out what kind of alcoholics frequent ATOT here.

WHy dont you create a poll so we can find out

Exemple:


Are you an alcoholic?

If so which type?
Young adult?
Young ANti social?
fuctional?
intermediate familial
chronic severe

i don't bwelieve in anay of this sh1t!!!!hic

WHats wrong with getting drunk?

before i actually posted this thread, i was considering including a pole with it, but laziness ruled.
 
Originally posted by: Xstatic1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Number1
We have a great opportunity to find out what kind of alcoholics frequent ATOT here.

WHy dont you create a poll so we can find out

Exemple:


Are you an alcoholic?

If so which type?
Young adult?
Young ANti social?
fuctional?
intermediate familial
chronic severe

i don't bwelieve in anay of this sh1t!!!!hic

WHats wrong with getting drunk?

</end quote></div>

before i actually posted this thread, i was considering including a pole with it, but laziness ruled.

I hope its not because of a hangover?
 
Originally posted by: Number1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Xstatic1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Number1
We have a great opportunity to find out what kind of alcoholics frequent ATOT here.

WHy dont you create a poll so we can find out

Exemple:


Are you an alcoholic?

If so which type?
Young adult?
Young ANti social?
fuctional?
intermediate familial
chronic severe

i don't bwelieve in anay of this sh1t!!!!hic

WHats wrong with getting drunk?

</end quote></div>

before i actually posted this thread, i was considering including a pole with it, but laziness ruled.</end quote></div>

I hope its not because of a hangover?

HOW DID U KNOW???!!! j/k
 
poll is officially up & running. proudly let us know what kind of alcoholic you are.

and oh yeah, please please please don't be stuuuuuuuuupid by drinking AND driving.

/rant

 
Alcoholism is pathological. There has to be some negative consequence to the habitual drinking to be considered alcoholism. If you're doing well in school, showing up to work, maintaining healthy relationships, keeping healthy, etc. then you are not alcoholic.
 
It seems like they're stretching the definition of alcoholism. In my view, an alcoholic is someone who drinks every day, more than a couple of drinks a day, and more than just binge drinking on the weekends.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BigJ
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Xstatic1
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: KLin
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: BigJ
Sounds like a load of horse shit.</end quote></div>

Sounds like denial to me. 😛</end quote></div>

LOL....was thinkin' the same thing! 😀</end quote></div>

What is it, something like 44% of college students binge drink? There's about 16 million college students in the US. Which means more than 7 million "young adult" and "young antisocial" type alcoholics.

Which means that to be in line with their subtypes, there would actually be over 14 million alcoholics in the US. Which means roughly 1 out of every 20 citizens in the US is an alcoholic (taking into account that his number also includes children).</end quote></div>

binge drinking =/ alcoholism
it can, however, lead to alcoholism if the user lets it

Yup...that isn't that reliable of a report IMHO, if its saying that many people are alcoholics....
 
I'm a binge drinker not an alcoholic. I can go a few weeks with out drinking (although it sounds kinda boring) no problem but I only have two drinking speeds. Drinking and not drinking. And when I'm drinking, I'm drinking.
 
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