The Word - Nacy Pelosi's favorite word

[Lemon law]

Now I have that "Bird's the Word" song in my head, dammit :|

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Naw, I am more thinking in terms of our country down the toilet. Swirley's are fun.

 

[Steeplerot]

Who's trashing her for being a woman? This thread is about her being a religious nutcase. "The Word?" WTF, get that fruitcake out of office. Or did it give you a woodie when Bush would invoke the Christian God as an excuse for war?

She is not calling for a crusade or jihad or something. US politicians must tow the christian line thanks to our twisted anglo-protestant culture in this country.

More lame echo chamber from wingnutlandia whining about being out of power.

And yes, a good part of the first half of this thread is shallow bashing of her personally for her traits of femininity. Quit the bullshit, everyone sees through it except the ones who blind themselves as it fits their partisan agenda.

 

[Craig234]

I don't think Pelosi is incompetent, I just don't like her. She keeps saying and doing things that make me not like her as a leader and a person. Now, let the constituency of California elect her all they want, but I don't think she fits as a Speaker. Also I'm still disappointed with her blocking the impeachment of George W Bush who very much should have been impeached after the illegal wiretapping his administration pulled.

On that issue, I agree. Maybe it was a good political choice - maybe it would have handed Republicans an issue they could use to attack Democrats as 'abusing their power to punish the people trying to protect America' or whatever - but sorry, I'd like to see it done anyway. However, on a practical note, who could be speaker who took the other side?

 

[Craig234]

You have little tolerance for the tyranny of the minority? That's what Democrats are all about. All of the minorities and all of their tyranny.

No, when the majority is bigoted and wants to deprive the rights of others, and the Democrats say 'no', you call it the 'tyranny of the minority'.

A clear example is gay marriage. The majority want to tell gays 'you don't get to marry'. When Democrats say 'stop discriminating', the gays are 'tyrannizing' the majority.

Was the law the majority passed called the 'Deny rights to gays Act'? No, it was called the 'Defense of Marriage Act' - defending the poor majority from the tyranny of gays.

And RedUnderTheBed already pulled out the "You say this because she is a woman" card. That's all anyone does any more.

IT must be my way or you are a racist/sexist/whateverist.

IMO, there is a lot of sexism about Nancy Pelosi - the right has a large part who don't care for 'bossy women' - but I agree that card is unjustified for posters in this thread.

To give some examples of tyranny that needs to go away: Affirmative Action, catering to minorities over others (INCLUDE all, not just one group over another). An example of that is allowing a Miss Black USA. Why not a Miss Hispanic USA and, here it comes, a Miss White USA?

Btw, Republicans aren't any better as a party because they seem to oppress too many others (gay marriage issues, women's right to choose, etc.).

We're going to disagree on AA. A century of racism has led to ongoing problems. AA is generally designed to help remove *the effects of racism* where they still are hurting a group - it's pretty standard for AA implementation to be based on a study showing things like a 30% black community with 5% black hiring by a company for no clear reason but discrimination. It is designed to go away as the effects of racism do.

Miss Black USA is not a government policy - and the difference between a 'Miss Black USA' and 'Miss White USA' is that as a minority blacks are in a larger community and are hardly pushing 'superiority' with such a pageant; consider that blacks for a long time were underrepresented in things like movies and television. Show me the 1950's TV ad with the black family. It just seems pretty harmless, even if technically there could be a 'Miss White pageant', but whites are well represented. There's also a 'Mrs. USA pageant' for married women, pageants for older women, there could be pageants for short women, heavier women, whatever - so what? This issue hardly deserves comparison to the real issues regarding discrimination.

Your last paragraph mentioning gay marriage shows some balance, but denying the right to marry and Democrats support for equality - AA is about the equality of equal opportunity where racism is preventing it, not the inequality of the AA to get that equal opportunity - isn't the same.

 

[BoberFett]

She is not calling for a crusade or jihad or something. US politicians must tow the christian line thanks to our twisted anglo-protestant culture in this country.

More lame echo chamber from wingnutlandia whining about being out of power.

And yes, a good part of the first half of this thread is shallow bashing of her personally for her traits of femininity. Quit the bullshit, everyone sees through it except the ones who blind themselves as it fits their partisan agenda.

You may very well have a learning disability. See a doctor.

 

[werepossum]

Funny how no one except right wing blog readers and foxnews/hate radio junkies even care or know who she is. Must really burn you guys up having a woman to tell the spoiled brats in the minority party to sit down and stfu.

Funny to have lefties celebrate ignorance - although the joke is truly getting old.

 

[Steeplerot]

Funny to have lefties celebrate ignorance - although the joke is truly getting old.

When Foxnews decides to be at least somewhat factual investigative programming instead of the anus of the republican party full of sensationalist tabloid quality partisan yellow journalism then reasonable people will listen.

Until then it will be the butt of jokes, including the cult like little mindset of people who watch.

 

[Craig234]

On Pelosi, she has long been a religious person.

Some on the right have misguided ideas that makes this not make sense to them - they think only they are religious.

It's pretty hypocritical of them to attack her as anti-religion and then as too religious.

But the right might say it's hypocritical for liberals to say they have issues with the right-wing leaders and religion, while Pelosi says this.

There are differences. There is a huge part of the US that's the 'religious right', recruited into the Republican army - there is no huge 'religious left' army.

The types of pandering the Republicans do to win over this group raise concerns - including things like 'buying their support' handing them taxpayer dollars under the cover of paying them to do charity. The Republican Congress had an emergency passage for Terry Schiavo to pander, with Bush returning early to sign the bill in the middle of the night - the left doesn't have that.

Instead, I think that religion does appropriately influence the politics of both sides - 'care for the poor', 'love your neighbor' and so on are religious views affecting politics. Laws against murder, against theft, share religious values. There's a line drawn when you get into more purely religious things - laws that support one religion over another rather than just public issues, should 'respect your parents' be a law? Should there be a law against idolatry? The Muslims have countries who have gone a long way to crossing that line, do we want that?

Pelosi isn't using religion here for political purposes IMO, but expressing her views that religion influences her in more appropriate ways.

IMO, Republicans sometimes treat the religious right like a group to exploit - supported by reports in Bush's first head of the new 'faith-based' office that Republican officials would wheel and deal with the religious right, and then behind their backs call them 'nuts'. Indeed, George Bush's own history has him campaigning for his father, who lost - and the next time, Bush found he was great at being able to get religious right votes and helped his father win, a lesson he learned well.

This is why as President he'd do things like have biblical phrases put in speeches that most wouldn't notice but the religious right would recognize and appreciate.

 

[classy]

Why do you guys hate successful and powerful women?

:awe:

Not me. I like'em with some charm and when they command respect.

 

[LumbergTech]

Oh, so she's a religious wackjob? Can we expect the resident lefty looneys to renounce her and demand that she step down? Probably not.

I have seen very few people actually support nancy pelosi

 

[sandorski]

What is this Nacy stuff, her first name is NANCY.

This is the second thread in a row to pull that stunt.

Normally I don't like being the spelling police, but what gives with that NACY stuff?
Is it perhaps a deliberate sign of disrespect or what dammitgibbs?

lol, was just going to post this.

 

[hal2kilo]

On Pelosi, she has long been a religious person.

Some on the right have misguided ideas that makes this not make sense to them - they think only they are religious.

It's pretty hypocritical of them to attack her as anti-religion and then as too religious.

But the right might say it's hypocritical for liberals to say they have issues with the right-wing leaders and religion, while Pelosi says this.

There are differences. There is a huge part of the US that's the 'religious right', recruited into the Republican army - there is no huge 'religious left' army.

The types of pandering the Republicans do to win over this group raise concerns - including things like 'buying their support' handing them taxpayer dollars under the cover of paying them to do charity. The Republican Congress had an emergency passage for Terry Schiavo to pander, with Bush returning early to sign the bill in the middle of the night - the left doesn't have that.

Instead, I think that religion does appropriately influence the politics of both sides - 'care for the poor', 'love your neighbor' and so on are religious views affecting politics. Laws against murder, against theft, share religious values. There's a line drawn when you get into more purely religious things - laws that support one religion over another rather than just public issues, should 'respect your parents' be a law? Should there be a law against idolatry? The Muslims have countries who have gone a long way to crossing that line, do we want that?

Pelosi isn't using religion here for political purposes IMO, but expressing her views that religion influences her in more appropriate ways.

IMO, Republicans sometimes treat the religious right like a group to exploit - supported by reports in Bush's first head of the new 'faith-based' office that Republican officials would wheel and deal with the religious right, and then behind their backs call them 'nuts'. Indeed, George Bush's own history has him campaigning for his father, who lost - and the next time, Bush found he was great at being able to get religious right votes and helped his father win, a lesson he learned well.

This is why as President he'd do things like have biblical phrases put in speeches that most wouldn't notice but the religious right would recognize and appreciate.

This whole thread is fail in regard to the OP. This is the first time I can even remember Pelosi publicly speaking out about her Christian beliefs. Typical right wing lose-lose setup.

If you don't wear your Christian faith on your sleve you get bashed as a communist heathen and if you mention it you are now a raving proselytiser.

We get it, you righties hate her. Too bad for you SF doesn't.

 

[UberNeuman]

the word isn't the word, the word is the bird....

 

[Moonbeam]

It must gall the shit out of backward six fingered Southern hicks that the leader of the House of Representatives is a woman from San Francisco , the greatest city on the planet and a Democrat with the same kind of compassion for the poor as Jesus, instead of some Bible banging, Super Church, revivalist, money grubbing hypocrite of a Christian from some hell hole of a Nowhere'sDixieville while the head of the Senate, also a Democrat, has the hell hole part covered.

 

[irishScott]

I can't stand the bitch myself. Wish she was a Republican.

Hey, someone has to make Angle look good.

 

[Kappo]

Nobody knows who the Speaker of the House is? That's your claim?

I think he's referring to the democratic voting base.