The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

[sze5003]

Been trying to keep a close eye on XP after completing side quests to ensure I get it. Just completed one right now and didn't receive any XP. Watched a youtube video of the quest and saw XP was awarded at completion. Level 12 quest, I'm 14.

Sure hope they fix this crap by tomorrow.

So if you already completed it and got nothing will the patch just award you xp? Any way for us to get it back without redoing the quests. I have not run into it yet but seeing as I'm on a level 6 story quest and I'm level 11 I fear I'll probably end up glitched too.

 

[Merad]

So if you already completed it and got nothing will the patch just award you xp? Any way for us to get it back without redoing the quests. I have not run into it yet but seeing as I'm on a level 6 story quest and I'm level 11 I fear I'll probably end up glitched too.

You're safe, the earliest the bug appears is the quest Pyres of Novigrad which is the first piece of the main quest in Novigrad.

 

[RockinZ28]

So if you already completed it and got nothing will the patch just award you xp? Any way for us to get it back without redoing the quests. I have not run into it yet but seeing as I'm on a level 6 story quest and I'm level 11 I fear I'll probably end up glitched too.

Last I read on the CDPR forums was the devs said XP would not be retroactively fixed. You miss it due to the bug, it's gone unless you start from prior saves.

You're safe, the earliest the bug appears is the quest Pyres of Novigrad which is the first piece of the main quest in Novigrad.

Sure about that? I got no XP for Ladies of the Wood, Family Matters or Bloody Baron. And now it seems certain side quests. Haven't even started Pyres of Novigrad, and won't until this gets resolved.

 

[Merad]

Sure about that? I got no XP for Ladies of the Wood, Family Matters or Bloody Baron. And now it seems certain side quests. Haven't even started Pyres of Novigrad, and won't until this gets resolved.

Any quest that is 6 levels or more lower than your level (gray in the quest journal) does not give xp. That's WAI.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Got to party with Triss today.
Also did the quest after that one

Spoiler

helping the mages escape from Novigrad. Cool quest. Tough choices. Also, Dijkstra's proposal to knock of Radovid... It SOUNDS appealing, which means he's probably lying or has some ulterior motive.

The spoiler part is very important to the ending you get. There's 3 main endings with maybe 4-5 different parts you can change as well depending on your choices. The ending I got I think was the most fitting for the characters.

 

[cmdrdredd]

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/28/sex-witcher-3-grand-theft-auto-of-fantasy-games

I was never sure exactly why I was supposed to give a damn about Yennefer. Thought I must have missed something from previous games (never finished TW1 and skipped a lot of the TW2 intro sequence). But if I'm interpreting that interview right, she pretty much came out of nowhere, and they thought they could make up for that with one implied sex scene?

“Through sex we have shown that this is a person who Geralt would be compelled to chase after if she went missing,” “Sex is the quickest way in which to establish the relationship and provide a justification for the player to pursue this woman,”

Did this work on anyone else, because it sure didn't work on me. I spent the whole game viewing her as some kind of impostor, and the characters I actually cared about were the properly established one. Sounds like weak justification for gratuitous sex (or nudity in this case, because the sex was only implied in that particular scene).

No see they explained it wrong. Yen and Geralt are bound together. Geralt, after getting his memory back remembers his love for her and it's not the sex scene, it's the fact that they have a deep relationship for going on 20 years.

Spoiler

it's explained in the quest where you find the Djinn and release the spell that binds their fates. Yennifer tried to take a Djinn's power and it was enraged. The only way to release it was to ask it for the final of 3 wishes. Geralt asked it to bind her fate to his. That's why they are inseparable, their fates are linked by a spell. The game doesn't explain this until much later.

Though honestly most of Yennifer's character is from the books and not so much explained in the game. Triss was always the more prominent girl in Geralt's life within the games to me. I also like Triss a lot better as a character, though during one quest it was hard not to feel bad for Yennifer with my choice. If only they made her that well written the whole time.

 

[RockinZ28]

Any quest that is 6 levels or more lower than your level (gray in the quest journal) does not give xp. That's WAI.

Yes, but when I completed these I was level 9 or so. Quests were for 6 and 7 I think. Were definitely green, not grayed.

I went back to prior saves to check if I was being rewarded the XP, and nope. But that was hours of game time back. Decided to just press forward and stay away from the main quests. Think that's what most are doing. Pretty colossal F up from CDPR.

 

[cmdrdredd]

So if you already completed it and got nothing will the patch just award you xp? Any way for us to get it back without redoing the quests. I have not run into it yet but seeing as I'm on a level 6 story quest and I'm level 11 I fear I'll probably end up glitched too.

You'll have to unlock the developer console and add xp manually. They aren't going to grant xp after the patch. I'd just take a guess at how much you did and add a level or two based on that.

 

[StinkyPinky]

No. From my understanding, by design you're not meant to get XP from quests over 6 levels below you. Those will be grey in the quest menu. Quests that are green or within 6 levels to your own, you're meant to get XP.

Therein lies the bug, you can do main quests that are within the proper range, and get no XP. So you should have received XP for a 12 level quest at character level 17.

Hopefully this will be fixed tomorrow, and without introducing more problems. I've held off on main quests all weekend. Pretty annoying, but with everything else there is to do in the game I'm not even close to bored.

You are correct. My bad.

Gee I hope they can somehow make the experience points retrospective. That's a really bad bug.

 

[sze5003]

You'll have to unlock the developer console and add xp manually. They aren't going to grant xp after the patch. I'd just take a guess at how much you did and add a level or two based on that.

Interesting so it's like a mini cheat system. I probably won't get to that quest that doesn't give you xp by the tomorrow so I should be safe.

 

[zinfamous]

Any quest that is 6 levels or more lower than your level (gray in the quest journal) does not give xp. That's WAI.

And yet I'm still getting no xp from quests that are only 4 levels beneath mine, and still green in color, so that information is not accurate.

Though, I don't think it's very consistent. I haven't logged this in detail--but it seems some side quests do and some don't give XP, at relatively the same level, best I can tell. Story quests seem most consistent in not giving anything, starting 4 levels below. I don't recall when I started Novigrad stuff--it was some time around level 11 just to travel there and unlock some waypoints, but I was still in the middle fo the various Baron-related quests. Pretty sure I got nothing from finishing the crones, and certainly not from the end of Family Matters. It's possible that activating Novigrad in the middle of those quests caused some issues.

In the end, I'm just going to console myself some xp, after this patch, if I truly feel nerfed by this--though I'd really like to upgrade my gear now, when I should be able to do..so that's my main issue with this. I'm way overpowered now as it is, on 2nd from highest difficulty, so I don't really want to make things too easy right now....only at end game if I want to unlock some skill points that I should have access to, let alone access to gear that I want to equip.

I'm at level 17, cleaning up the main Novigrad quest (jumped down to level 11, after finishing the level 12 one...wtf), as well as some sidequests that spawned after that. I've traveled to Skellige only briefly, to unlock travel there, and to hopefully finish up that level 11 sidequest that you unlock with your witcher buddy--I wanted to finish this before I overleveled, but there was no ping on the Skellige map of where to go, no town name, and I didnt' want to unlock too much.

still...90+ hours in, level 17, haven't really been to skellige yet.

 

[zinfamous]

No see they explained it wrong. Yen and Geralt are bound together. Geralt, after getting his memory back remembers his love for her and it's not the sex scene, it's the fact that they have a deep relationship for going on 20 years.

Spoiler

it's explained in the quest where you find the Djinn and release the spell that binds their fates. Yennifer tried to take a Djinn's power and it was enraged. The only way to release it was to ask it for the final of 3 wishes. Geralt asked it to bind her fate to his. That's why they are inseparable, their fates are linked by a spell. The game doesn't explain this until much later.

Though honestly most of Yennifer's character is from the books and not so much explained in the game. Triss was always the more prominent girl in Geralt's life within the games to me. I also like Triss a lot better as a character, though during one quest it was hard not to feel bad for Yennifer with my choice. If only they made her that well written the whole time.

Nerd stuff: I haven't read the books, never will--but I did hear in one of the youtube videos, one of the CDPR devs, mentioned that the author of the Witcher does not consider any of these games as cannon, because well, Geralt is dead at the end of the books, and that is how the story ends.

Looking at the interesting video about the very early promo version of Witcher 1, the first version was a create-your-own witcher design, and Geralt was to only appear briefly (possibly as part of that back story). FWIW, I'm glad they decided to stick with a single character, pre-designed, with an established personality and history. It makes for much better story and RPG elements overall. Something that you can't really get in TES games.

I guess Yennefer is a big part of the books, and since Geralt is amnesiac in the first 2 games (I've always hated this cliche--but I mean, he is now not-dead, so I'll let it go ), she really wasn't part of the non-cannon game world until now. I'm guessing that with Geralt's memory being back now, this is CDPR really trying to put the story back into the story of the novels, and Yennefer is a nod to the earliest of Witcher fans? I dunno.

 

[zinfamous]

by the way, heard this little background gem for the first time, as I come steamrolling through some peasant village on my Roach:

"Hide the wenches, A Witcher approaches!"

And, "what rhymes with witcher?" :hmm:

 

[cmdrdredd]

Nerd stuff: I haven't read the books, never will--but I did hear in one of the youtube videos, one of the CDPR devs, mentioned that the author of the Witcher does not consider any of these games as cannon, because well, Geralt is dead at the end of the books, and that is how the story ends.

Looking at the interesting video about the very early promo version of Witcher 1, the first version was a create-your-own witcher design, and Geralt was to only appear briefly (possibly as part of that back story). FWIW, I'm glad they decided to stick with a single character, pre-designed, with an established personality and history. It makes for much better story and RPG elements overall. Something that you can't really get in TES games.

I guess Yennefer is a big part of the books, and since Geralt is amnesiac in the first 2 games (I've always hated this cliche--but I mean, he is now not-dead, so I'll let it go ), she really wasn't part of the non-cannon game world until now. I'm guessing that with Geralt's memory being back now, this is CDPR really trying to put the story back into the story of the novels, and Yennefer is a nod to the earliest of Witcher fans? I dunno.

Yennifer is the cannon choice. Triss and Yen are friends and out of respect for Triss, Yen did not interfere (in the game's story) with their relationship.

 

[etrigan420]

Great game. Just finishing up the Bloody Baron quest, so I'm no too far into it.

I've had 2 crashes so far, one just now. Using a new 970 Strix with the 352.86 drivers. I see that the new 353.06 version is available, so hopefully those are a bit better.

You guys aint kidding about the wind...it's bizarre.

 

[sze5003]

Great game. Just finishing up the Bloody Baron quest, so I'm no too far into it.

I've had 2 crashes so far, one just now. Using a new 970 Strix with the 352.86 drivers. I see that the new 353.06 version is available, so hopefully those are a bit better.

You guys aint kidding about the wind...it's bizarre.

I have to do one side quest to finish the bloody baron's quest I believe. The map is beyond massive. Sometimes I get tired of just exploring stuff but I'm not high enough level to continue in the story at times. Once you get past level 10 things get easier.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Isn't the wind part of the story? Geralt even mentions it repeatedly when wandering around.

 

[JeffMD]

The chance of the bug effecting your games is very little.. the game was played and finished by tons of testers and reviewers all with the bug present. The bug only really effects players who have a hard time fighting content that is average with their current level. If your only way to progress is by outleveling your current content by doing content 6+ levels below you then you are just struggling with the normal difficulty level of the game.

All is not lost though, we do have a mod for a command line and we should figure out the syntax for the command that adds XP. You can probably estimate how many levels youve lost and give them back to yourself.

 

[sze5003]

Isn't the wind part of the story? Geralt even mentions it repeatedly when wandering around.

Yes I believe it is, at one point the area near the swamp turns dark and stormy, he mentions the wind is howling and then you hear a ghost talking. I think there is a quest in there somewhere.

 

[JeffMD]

I have to do one side quest to finish the bloody baron's quest I believe. The map is beyond massive. Sometimes I get tired of just exploring stuff but I'm not high enough level to continue in the story at times. Once you get past level 10 things get easier.

What annoys me is the game is constantly setting me on the high level skellige path when I still need to continue investigating the other cities and regions to search out clues for ciri. There is still tons of main quest to do before I travel to skellige.

 

[sze5003]

What annoys me is the game is constantly setting me on the high level skellige path when I still need to continue investigating the other cities and regions to search out clues for ciri. There is still tons of main quest to do before I travel to skellige.

Yes this one has a different playing curve compared to witcher 2 which was just straight forward. You are left at your own will to level up and that's good because there are tons of things to do, it's not like everything is hidden on the map until you come across it.

 

[JeffMD]

I did come across some dwellings that were lightly haunted but other wise had locked doors and/or no other reason for being there. I'm sure they will be used for a quest I have not gotten yet.

 

[etrigan420]

Isn't the wind part of the story? Geralt even mentions it repeatedly when wandering around.

The only part that's weird about it is it blows indoors!

Sitting at a table talking to <insert NPC> and Geralts hair is blowing all over the place...it's just strange.

 

[zinfamous]

The only part that's weird about it is it blows indoors!

Sitting at a table talking to <insert NPC> and Geralts hair is blowing all over the place...it's just strange.

I like the background during cutscenes, particularly with the Baron--you are inside, have his windows in the background, and the only thing you see through the windows are constant sideways trees.

It's hilarious.

The effects are nice, but I think it's something that really needs to be toned down. I get that this is probably just part of the world--being Polish, I think the weather tends to be very grey, very rainy over there anyway--but maybe add a slider to the settings? Sometimes less is more. It's like 4 straight days of constant rain and wind, then a sunny day. Seeing the ~10am-5pm hours dark and stormy 90% of the time is getting a bit old...but again, I suppose that is the world....

Slider!

 

[zinfamous]

The chance of the bug effecting your games is very little.. the game was played and finished by tons of testers and reviewers all with the bug present. The bug only really effects players who have a hard time fighting content that is average with their current level. If your only way to progress is by outleveling your current content by doing content 6+ levels below you then you are just struggling with the normal difficulty level of the game.

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How was it tolerated by testers and reviewers when it was introduced last week with patch 1.04?

I'm on high difficulty and the game hasn't ever been that hard to me, and in that way it really hasn't bothered me all that much, either...but I ignored a lot of lower level stuff to do higher level missions...so now going back to do that stuff is just way too easy for me and, of course, leveling has stagnated considerably. I think both issues are problematic, because it does point to a real balance issue. Early on in the game, I found that taking on missions 3-4 levels above you, at least, were kinda "normal difficulty" anything at or below your level was trivial.

Before the bug hit, it seemed that the story missions were set at levels that were way too low--I think to satiate those that just want to blast through the story only, ignoring everything else. This means that if you sidetrack a bit, you will outlevel way too easily, and content becomes trivial. Otherwise, the sidequests are actually rather high-leveled, so that is where the primary difficulty lays.

I'd say that's part of their design--players that want easy roses mode just stick to the story; those that want a challenge will bother with the contracts and additional content. ...I can get that, for the most part, but I wish they would have tuned the story a bit to at least encourage some leveling away from the main thread. Maybe not too much, like those horrible JRPGs that force level grinding, but a nice taste here and there to keep both aspects challenging enough to be interesting.

Say, instead of story going 5 > 5 > 6 > 8 > 10 11 > 12 >11 >11 >12; something like: 5 > 7 >11 >14.

A LOT of the contracts go from level 5, to 10, then a shit ton start at 18 and up. It's very strange.

I dunno, that's my rant. At least we have console commands to fix these things.