The White House's second intern class -----MAWA

[fskimospy]

To prevent illegal immigration if Mexican citizens. Do you think they should be able to come as they please?

Irrelevant. He has repeatedly stated the reason that was necessary was due to the fundamental criminal nature of these individuals.

Surely it’s not hard to see why the federal government under gun acting as though it agrees is bad for minorities.

 

[ch33zw1z]

No one thinks deregulation is helping the economy? Really?

That's what what fski said, but hey.....reading g comprehension is overrated anyways

 

[fskimospy]

No one thinks deregulation is helping the economy? Really?

You made the claim, not me.

Our current growth is perfectly fine but it’s not like it’s blowing the doors off or anything. More importantly I see no credible reason as to why deregulation is the cause for current growth both due to how recent deregulation is (and how little gas actually been implemented) and that growth is similar to previous years with presumably higher regulation.

The most plausible answer is that trump hasn’t done much either way. If you want to claim otherwise show me a model or a credible source.

 

[ch33zw1z]

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/01/us/politics/trump-businesses-regulation-economic-growth.html

A wave of optimism has swept over American business leaders, and it is beginning to translate into the sort of investment in new plants, equipment and factory upgrades that bolsters economic growth, spurs job creation — and may finally raise wages significantly.


NYT. Fake news

Why would they not be optimistic when Cons playbook is all about tax cuts and trickle down.

The rest will be told in time, my employer definitely made it clear the big beautiful tax cuts won't be trickling down anytime soon, as have others.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Perhaps.. the stated purpose is not the actual reason a vocal minority want it to be built.

So what’s the reason then

 

[bshole]

You made the claim, not me.

Our current growth is perfectly fine but it’s not like it’s blowing the doors off or anything. More importantly I see no credible reason as to why deregulation is the cause for current growth both due to how recent deregulation is (and how little gas actually been implemented) and that growth is similar to previous years with presumably higher regulation.

The most plausible answer is that trump hasn’t done much either way. If you want to claim otherwise show me a model or a credible source.

With regards to business regulations, there is this:

In the aggregate, the Trump administration is issuing fewer major regulations on manufacturers than that of the Obama administration, and it is seeking to eliminate or delay several major regulations on manufacturers that were issued by the Obama administration. (The difference from the Bush administration is less stark.) The number and cost of new major regulations on manufacturers is likely to remain low, and it is unlikely that the cost of compliance with long-standing regulations will be reduced significantly.

http://www.industryweek.com/economy/deregulation-under-president-trump-behind-numbers

 

[UglyCasanova]

More importantly I see no credible reason as to why deregulation is the cause for current growth both due to how recent deregulation is (and how little gas actually been implemented) and that growth is similar to previous years with presumably higher regulation.

Deregulation passed or expected to pass and companies are reacting. The effects should be felt more and more as time goes on but companies are definitely making plans/investing based on recent changes.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Why would they not be optimistic when Cons playbook is all about tax cuts and trickle down.

The rest will be told in time, my employer definitely made it clear the big beautiful tax cuts won't be trickling down anytime soon, as have others.

Conversation is about deregulation not tax cuts, try to keep up.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Conversation is about deregulation not tax cuts, try to keep up.

They are both in the conservative playbook, try not to trip on your own feet.

 

[fskimospy]

Deregulation passed or expected to pass and companies are reacting. The effects should be felt more and more as time goes on but companies are definitely making plans/investing based on recent changes.

What is your basis for this? For the third time do you have a credible source or a model that shows this is the cause of economic growth in 2017? I mean I’m not exactly asking for a lot here, just literally any evidence for what you’re saying.

The idea that imagined future deregulation is the reason as to why economic growth was similar in 2017 to 2015 and it’s due to Trump’s policies seems a lot more like a statement of faith than anything else.

 

[HomerJS]

I posted the thread about his first class and nothing has changed except there are fewer POC. In fact this picture represents what Trump looks for in his first level direct reports except there are too many women.

Isn't is odd we have Trump who claims to pick only the best. That "best" in his eyes are white men. This administration is the most corrupt and incompetent in history. This list of fired top level appointments has broken all records.

Maybe he would have better luck if he hired people of color. Someone should leave a note on his desk, "try someone else besides white men"

Interning at the White House is one of the most prestigious jobs of that type in the country. The fact Republicans think only white people deserve a shot at these positions confirms what is suspected of them.

 

[IronWing]

No one thinks deregulation is helping the economy? Really?

Deregulation is a form of cost shifting. It externalizes and socializes the costs of doing business. It helps a few people and hurts everybody else.

 

[Jhhnn]

Conversation is about deregulation not tax cuts, try to keep up.

Funny how they cut taxes at the top first... not to mention that deregulation accomplishes the same thing as tax cuts- more profit.

Back on topic I'm gonna get out my eskimo snow goggles the next time I look at the pic of the new interns...

 

[UglyCasanova]

What is your basis for this? For the third time do you have a credible source or a model that shows this is the cause of economic growth in 2017? I mean I’m not exactly asking for a lot here, just literally any evidence for what you’re saying.

The idea that imagined future deregulation is the reason as to why economic growth was similar in 2017 to 2015 and it’s due to Trump’s policies seems a lot more like a statement of faith than anything else.

Regulation and compliance costs business money. Common sense would tell you that when you free up those costs business can invest elsewhere.

Heres a link

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9560.html

The researchers demonstrate that a number of measures of regulation - in particular barriers to entry - are negatively related to investment. The implications of the analysis are clear: regulatory reforms - in particular those that liberalize entry - are very likely to spur investment; tight regulation of product markets restricts investment.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Irrelevant. He has repeatedly stated the reason that was necessary was due to the fundamental criminal nature of these individuals.

Surely it’s not hard to see why the federal government under gun acting as though it agrees is bad for minorities.

It’s not irrelevant. Trump talks lots of shit to sell it, but the goal is border security. Do you think we should secure our border?

 

[UglyCasanova]

The whole anti-DACA push

Let’s move on to the next one. Trump seems to be advocating for DACA or similar measures, but pushed it back to Congress to actually pass something rather than it being an EO. Do you disagree with this?

 

[fskimospy]

It’s not irrelevant. Trump talks lots of shit to sell it, but the goal is border security. Do you think we should secure our border?

Ridiculous attempt at moving the goalposts. You asked how it hurt minorities and that was answered. Can you acknowledge this?

Also, the goal is not border security as there’s no credible analysis that says his wall will be effective at that. The goal is to signal antipathy towards brown people and he has been very clear about that from the start.

 

[fskimospy]

Let’s move on to the next one. Trump seems to be advocating for DACA or similar measures, but pushed it back to Congress to actually pass something rather than it being an EO. Do you disagree with this?

Congress came to an agreement on what to pass and then Trump deliberately sabotaged it. He has actually done more than anyone else to ensure DACA wasn’t passed through legislation.

This is another excellent example of Trump hurting minorities though, so thank you.

 

[fskimospy]

Regulation and compliance costs business money. Common sense would tell you that when you free up those costs business can invest elsewhere.

Heres a link

http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9560.html

The researchers demonstrate that a number of measures of regulation - in particular barriers to entry - are negatively related to investment. The implications of the analysis are clear: regulatory reforms - in particular those that liberalize entry - are very likely to spur investment; tight regulation of product markets restricts investment.

This is another attempt to move the goalposts. The question was not whether regulation can impede growth, it was that specific actions by Trump are responsible for significantly increasing the growth we saw last year, thus benefitting minorities. What regulatory steps did he take, specifically, that did this? Do you have literally even a single shred of evidence for this?

It seems you’re just engaging in wishful thinking.

Edit: it’s particularly far fetched as the example of effective deregulation are those that remove entry barriers. People can’t enter a market in anticipation of entry barriers being removed, they actually have to be gone.

 

[Sunburn74]

Let’s move on to the next one. Trump seems to be advocating for DACA or similar measures, but pushed it back to Congress to actually pass something rather than it being an EO. Do you disagree with this?

I think he just tweeted like a second ago that he is personally killing any daca deal from the Dems.

 

[Jhhnn]

Let’s move on to the next one. Trump seems to be advocating for DACA or similar measures, but pushed it back to Congress to actually pass something rather than it being an EO. Do you disagree with this?

The great obfuscator- Gish galloping & duh-verting all over the map.

Trump didn't have to rescind DACA if he wanted Congress to act on behalf of the Dreamers. He could have made a concrete proposal for change while leaving the EO intact. Well, only if his goal was to do the right thing by the Dreamers.

Trump & the GOP are just revving up their immigration bullshit machine for the midterms. They run the same con every two years & their faithful chumps fall for it every time. The Wall is just a variation on the theme.

 

[brycejones]

I think he just tweeted like a second ago that he is personally killing any daca deal from the Dems.

Don't confuse uglygoatboy with Trump's words.

 

[Jhhnn]

I think he just tweeted like a second ago that he is personally killing any daca deal from the Dems.

He did. He's advocating a "nuclear option"- Fuck those Dreamers! Fuck 'em all!

Border Patrol Agents are not allowed to properly do their job at the Border because of ridiculous liberal (Democrat) laws like Catch & Release. Getting more dangerous. “Caravans” coming. Republicans must go to Nuclear Option to pass tough laws NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL!

Anybody who didn't see that coming is willfully blind.

 

[UglyCasanova]

Ridiculous attempt at moving the goalposts. You asked how it hurt minorities and that was answered. Can you acknowledge this?

Also, the goal is not border security as there’s no credible analysis that says his wall will be effective at that. The goal is to signal antipathy towards brown people and he has been very clear about that from the start.

Trumps tweets and shit yes I’ll admit if I were a minority I’d be pissed. The wall secured the border. Not just from rapist and drug dealers like he says (bs scare tactics to sell the thing), but against all illegal immigrants trying to cross over. If I’m a black guy I’d want the border secured just as much as a white guy.

The goal being antipathy towards POC is ridiculous. I’m sorry, but yes it is about border security. I agree it’s a waste of money and will be ineffective and shouldn’t be built, I disagree that the push to build it is just racist Nazi white people hate anybody of color.


I’ll ask again, do you think the border should be secured?

 

[UglyCasanova]

This is another attempt to move the goalposts. The question was not whether regulation can impede growth, it was that specific actions by Trump are responsible for significantly increasing the growth we saw last year, thus benefitting minorities. What regulatory steps did he take, specifically, that did this? Do you have literally even a single shred of evidence for this?

It seems you’re just engaging in wishful thinking.

Edit: it’s particularly far fetched as the example of effective deregulation are those that remove entry barriers. People can’t enter a market in anticipation of entry barriers being removed, they actually have to be gone.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/waynec...s-trump-has-cut-red-tape-so-far/#59b832f2369d