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The Walking Dead Season 4 - Official discussion thread

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SheHateMe said:
You're a bad man.
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it's been such bullshit that he has survived this long anyways. and now when watching the episodes we won't have half of the show time being taken up from him making 1 sentence. he talked too damn slow. i just wish glenn had also gotten killed, and i was hoping rick was also going to get killed by the governor, and then michonne was going to kill the governor after rick was dead.
 
ultimatebob said:
The baby didn't show up in the In Memoriam montage during Talking Dead after the show, for what it's worth.
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Not surprised. I keep thinking Carol will end up with the baby at some point. Then it will be nice and awkward between Rick and Carol when they meet back up. 😀

KT
 
So how much of a mindfuck would it be if Carl was the one feeding the rats, killing the sick ones and carving up rats in the basement area ?? Carol found out about it and took the blame to keep Rick from knowing the truth.

No particular reason I am theorizing this out, just something to do while we wait until February's new episodes. Feel free to add your own theories and gloat about them in February if you are right.
 
I bet Tyrese and the kids will run into Carol, she will save their lives and then when they reconnect with the group there will be a nice awkward talk with Rick and Daryl. As for the rats my bet would be the little girl that was naming walkers and seemed to have no problem killing people...
 
Yeah, I see the kids running into Carol again. And Tyrese wondering why she wasn't at the prison. Carol might end up telling him herself. Or, Tyrese discovers it was the girl who was dissecting the rats and killed the people, thus putting him in a choice to get revenge or let it go.


Overall, the episode was decent, however it was filled with silliness as usual. The Governor is easily the worst tactician in history.
 
Printer Bandit said:
people that have a hardon for this show, and yet have not read the comics baffles me.
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Are you one of THOSE movie guys too? Interjecting into every conversation about a movie based on a novel with "Have you read the novel?" This is usually followed by a scoff and slight eye roll when the half expected "no" is returned.

Don't be this person.
 
WT said:
So how much of a mindfuck would it be if Carl was the one feeding the rats, killing the sick ones and carving up rats in the basement area ?? Carol found out about it and took the blame to keep Rick from knowing the truth.

No particular reason I am theorizing this out, just something to do while we wait until February's new episodes. Feel free to add your own theories and gloat about them in February if you are right.
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I was pretty convinced that Carl was the one who killed the two people. They were sick and probably lost a bit of weight. Carl would have been able to drag em outside, it wasn't that far.
 
AdamK47 said:
Are you one of THOSE movie guys too? Interjecting into every conversation about a movie based on a novel with "Have you read the novel?" This is usually followed by a scoff and slight eye roll when the half expected "no" is returned.

Don't be this person.
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yeah, to me, any movie/tv show is much better than the book version, because i simply don't give a shit about reading a book.
 
SheHateMe said:
I was pretty convinced that Carl was the one who killed the two people. They were sick and probably lost a bit of weight. Carl would have been able to drag em outside, it wasn't that far.
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Fair enough. So Carl killed 'em off, but the oldest of the young girls (she is a crack shot !) was the one playing with rats.

Michonne may just collect Hershel's head and keep it around. He had such a sad look on 'Talking Dead' last night that I kept thinking he was back in character for a guest appearance flashback in February.
 
WT said:
Fair enough. So Carl killed 'em off, but the oldest of the young girls (she is a crack shot !) was the one playing with rats.

Michonne may just collect Hershel's head and keep it around. He had such a sad look on 'Talking Dead' last night that I kept thinking he was back in character for a guest appearance flashback in February.
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if you haven't noticed, every character on the show is a BOOM HEADSHOT expert marksman when shooting zombies, with a 100% headshot rate, 1 shot 1 kill, on the zombies that are all moving.

however, when there is a standoff in a field where it is humans firing at humans, they can waste clip after clip after clip and not even wound a stationary human target, except every now and then.
 
ManBearPig said:
What was the deal with the rat? Just to show that whoever is doing all this rat stuff is fucked up?
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i think it was to show that it wasn't carol, since we were all supposed to maybe assume the person that was doing the rat thing was the same person that killed the 2 sick people. i'm actually not sure why that assumption came about though.
 
I dont believe the baby (Judith) is dead. Someone probably grabbed her before running off, maybe even that annoying *** girl.
 
ManBearPig said:
What was the deal with the rat? Just to show that whoever is doing all this rat stuff is fucked up?
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Just to remind you that this is still going on. I presume it'll pay off later in the season, perhaps involving Carol.
lozina said:
I dont believe the baby (Judith) is dead. Someone probably grabbed her before running off, maybe even that annoying *** girl.
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Tara? I don't think she ever entered the prison gates.
 
Printer Bandit said:
people that have a hardon for this show, and yet have not read the comics baffles me.
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Pff.. Reading is work.

Wingznut said:
Our protagonists did a pretty poor job of fortifying the prison. It would've been interesting to see what the Governor could've done, had he taken it over. 😉

After finding that dissected rat, and especially after Tyrese thinks that person killed Karen and David, I'm thinking more and more that we'll see Carol in the second half of the season. And it's very possible that we'll find out that she didn't actually kill those two.
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The Governor had a town and did such a shit job with defense that Rick and Co. snuck in at least once to kill a bunch of them off.

My money's on the lead girl. She's ball-sy enough to lead a walker away from Glen and put a bullet in the woman's head.

Oh, and I watched Talking Dead afterwards. No confirmation on Judith from the writer after the car seat was mentioned.
 
purbeast0 said:
i think it was to show that it wasn't carol, since we were all supposed to maybe assume the person that was doing the rat thing was the same person that killed the 2 sick people. i'm actually not sure why that assumption came about though.
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I think they are trying to paint a picture that Carol was protecting someone (most likely one of the girls). She assumed it was them who killed the sick people and accepted responsibility when Rick questioned her.
 
smackababy said:
I think they are trying to paint a picture that Carol was protecting someone (most likely one of the girls). She assumed it was them who killed the sick people and accepted responsibility when Rick questioned her.
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Yes, this is my take on it as well.

KT
 
Wingznut said:
Tara? I don't think she ever entered the prison gates.
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Yes she did. The other girl told her to stay behind (her). When Daryl threw the first nade at those guys (remember the zombie barricade), she was behind the tank. That's when she ran off and left her gf.
 
SheHateMe said:
Yes she did. The other girl told her to stay behind (her). When Daryl threw the first nade at those guys (remember the zombie barricade), she was behind the tank. That's when she ran off and left her gf.
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Hmm, ok, but she wasn't anywhere near the buildings, where Judith's car seat was found... Right?
 
We don't know where she went. She ran off and wasn't shown after that.

It makes sense for someone to remove the baby from the car seat. It is rather bulky and hard to run with, especially if a child had it. Perhaps Daryl and Herschel's daughter grabbed her out of the seat before Rick and Carl made it back.


Did we ever get a real explanation for the cabin? I know the Governor was acting strange when he entered and then screamed liar when he cut off Herschel's head.
 
I really enjoyed this episode and love that they will now finally be on the road again so I can't wait to see what happens when the series continues after the hiatus.

I think Judith is with the young'ns and Tyrese. I think the oldest of the young'ns is the rat dissecter. She also made a point about having to be strong on their own so I think she took Judith with them.

And, I'm so so sooooo hoping the Gov is finally dead.
 
purbeast0 said:
if you haven't noticed, every character on the show is a BOOM HEADSHOT expert marksman when shooting zombies, with a 100% headshot rate, 1 shot 1 kill, on the zombies that are all moving.

however, when there is a standoff in a field where it is humans firing at humans, they can waste clip after clip after clip and not even wound a stationary human target, except every now and then.
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To be fair, the governor did take TWO shots to take down one of those zombies in the field. Granted, the first one went through the zombie's mouth, but it wasn't quite a headshot. Embarrassing really. With my eyes closed I could hit a zombie in the forehead, using a 1911, one-handed, while the zombie was moving, and while I only had one eye (which wouldn't matter because my eye would be closed).
 
purbeast0 said:
if you haven't noticed, every character on the show is a BOOM HEADSHOT expert marksman when shooting zombies, with a 100% headshot rate, 1 shot 1 kill, on the zombies that are all moving.

however, when there is a standoff in a field where it is humans firing at humans, they can waste clip after clip after clip and not even wound a stationary human target, except every now and then.
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I understand why everyone would be a bad shot; so the problem lies strictly in the "oh no! zombies coming up form hell. BOOM HEADSHOT" and then against something where the shot would matter they spend 5 clips and can't hit anything.
 
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