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Sam334

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Haven't read comics in ages...what's the difference between the Hobgoblin and the Green Goblin? I'm assuming the Hobgoblin will be Defoe's kid in the movie, but is that the way it went in the comics?
 

meltdown75

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nice. i always loved that character. he's going to be one CGI'd up son of a bitch. should be interesting.
 

AMCRambler

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How is the scrawny dork from That 70's show going to play Venom? It's Eddie Brock that turns into Venom right? Wasn't he a huge linebacker size guy? Not some twiggy chess nerd! I just dont see it.
 

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Damn. Spiderman just went the route of the Batman movies by having too many villains at one time....

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
How is the scrawny dork from That 70's show going to play Venom? It's Eddie Brock that turns into Venom right? Wasn't he a huge linebacker size guy? Not some twiggy chess nerd! I just dont see it.

The article said that Grace was "bulking up" for the role. That's a whole helluva lot of bulking up. He's like Tobey Maguire's twin....
 

AMCRambler

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Originally posted by: Sam334
Haven't read comics in ages...what's the difference between the Hobgoblin and the Green Goblin? I'm assuming the Hobgoblin will be Defoe's kid in the movie, but is that the way it went in the comics?

In the cartoon Harry Osbourne was the Hobgoblin too. Never read the comic so I don't know, but I'm guessing thats the way it went there too.
 
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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: Sam334
Haven't read comics in ages...what's the difference between the Hobgoblin and the Green Goblin? I'm assuming the Hobgoblin will be Defoe's kid in the movie, but is that the way it went in the comics?
In the cartoon Harry Osbourne was the Hobgoblin too. Never read the comic so I don't know, but I'm guessing thats the way it went there too.
I'm not sure that's right. In the comic and 90's cartoon, the green goblin was played by Harry and Norman Osbourne. The hobgoblin was a mercenary hired to kill Spiderman (or something like that).
 

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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: Sam334
Haven't read comics in ages...what's the difference between the Hobgoblin and the Green Goblin? I'm assuming the Hobgoblin will be Defoe's kid in the movie, but is that the way it went in the comics?

In the cartoon Harry Osbourne was the Hobgoblin too. Never read the comic so I don't know, but I'm guessing thats the way it went there too.

i thought Harry was just another incarnation of the Green Goblin... i thought the hobgoblin was just some random person who stumbled onto the equipment...
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: Sam334
Haven't read comics in ages...what's the difference between the Hobgoblin and the Green Goblin? I'm assuming the Hobgoblin will be Defoe's kid in the movie, but is that the way it went in the comics?

In the cartoon Harry Osbourne was the Hobgoblin too. Never read the comic so I don't know, but I'm guessing thats the way it went there too.

Harry Osbourne was the Green Goblin reincarnated in the comics. The Hobgoblin was a mercenary/thief whom the elder Osbourne gave all the toys.
 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: AMCRambler
Originally posted by: Sam334
Haven't read comics in ages...what's the difference between the Hobgoblin and the Green Goblin? I'm assuming the Hobgoblin will be Defoe's kid in the movie, but is that the way it went in the comics?

In the cartoon Harry Osbourne was the Hobgoblin too. Never read the comic so I don't know, but I'm guessing thats the way it went there too.

Harry Osbourne was the Green Goblin reincarnated in the comics. The Hobgoblin was a mercenary/thief whom the elder Osbourne gave all the toys.


Info about Hobgoblin:
http://www.spiderfan.org/characters/hobgoblin1.html
 

Aftermath

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I'm uncertain about Topher as Venom. I think he would make for a decent Carnage, more wirey and violently insane, but Venom is a friggin tank..
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: Aftermath
I'm uncertain about Topher as Venom. I think he would make for a decent Carnage, more wirey and violently insane, but Venom is a friggin tank..

I'm betting that when Topher transforms into Venom his size will quadruple....seriously, the more I think of Topher's wirey frame I can't see him bulking up anywhere close to Brock's size.

He does fit in with Sam Raimi's casting concept of getting ordinary looking people for Spiderman roles though.
 

jalaram

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Damn. Spiderman just went the route of the Batman movies by having too many villains at one time....

Originally posted by: AMCRambler
How is the scrawny dork from That 70's show going to play Venom? It's Eddie Brock that turns into Venom right? Wasn't he a huge linebacker size guy? Not some twiggy chess nerd! I just dont see it.

The article said that Grace was "bulking up" for the role. That's a whole helluva lot of bulking up. He's like Tobey Maguire's twin....


Agreed on both points. I used to get them mixed up. And for the former, that's what steroids are for. :)

 

EKKC

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i cant see Grace as Venom. i really cant.

so all 3 of them will be villains in this one? or will they delay Franco's Goblin transformation to #4?

Kirsten Dunst will have no role in this one i bet you. she's all giddy with Peter Parker now, there's no more story on that side...
 

jalaram

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Originally posted by: Medicine Bear
I don't know about all that, but I'm ready for a Bruce Campbell cameo.

Even at his age, I would prefer Bruce of Topher for Venom. However, he could steal the movie from the other actors.

 

BigJ

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Originally posted by: EKKC
i cant see Grace as Venom. i really cant.

so all 3 of them will be villains in this one? or will they delay Franco's Goblin transformation to #4?

Kirsten Dunst will have no role in this one i bet you. she's all giddy with Peter Parker now, there's no more story on that side...

Someone is always trying to kill Mary Jane in Spiderman.
 

Medicine Bear

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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: EKKC
i cant see Grace as Venom. i really cant.

so all 3 of them will be villains in this one? or will they delay Franco's Goblin transformation to #4?

Kirsten Dunst will have no role in this one i bet you. she's all giddy with Peter Parker now, there's no more story on that side...

Someone is always trying to kill Mary Jane in Spiderman.
I killed her a lot in college.

 

mchammer187

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toper -> venom = :thumbsdown:

imo the guy from prison break would be a perfect venom (the one that is about to be executed in the show)