The USA is the Greatest Country in the World because ?

[charrison]

Originally posted by: MrChicken
"If you're a WASP or have money, yes."

That is pure Bullsh*t!

Millions upon millions have emigrated to the US to rise from the poor and oppressed.

Both sides of my family started with zilch when they came to America.

There are poor in America, but they dont have to stay that way if want to work for a better tommorow.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: MrChicken
"If you're a WASP or have money, yes."

That is pure Bullsh*t!

Millions upon millions have emigrated to the US to rise from the poor and oppressed.

Both sides of my family started with zilch when they came to America.

As did mine to Canada. And when they arrived, there was no slavery if you were black and the army wasn't out killing off "Indians". Since the principles of freedom were already wide spread in the 19th century, largely due to British and Scottish writers, Canada was actually more "free" than the US throughout its entire history. We just don't spend so much time talking about it, we live it.

 

[przero]

So what's the problem with free speech up there?

 

[oldirtythao]

Oh yea i don't think gave my opinion about the US, i do believe its a one of the greatest place to live, the reason for that i guess is it gives people opportunity to succeed. Not everyone may succeed but there's a chance to. Also freedom of press is kinda cool, even though there are a few coverups here and there, people can voice their opinions to people like in this forum. Granted somethings are hush hush and can't be said, but thats needed it for your or someone elses safety.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: katka
It was built through slavery.

As was every other nation on Earth, so what else is new?

After 200 + years it has not achieved gender equality in the workplace.

We've been trying for this for 200 years? Try more like 30 years...

After 200 + years it has not achieved racial equality, anywhere.

Ditto...

There is not national healthcare.

Where is it written that everyone is "entitled" to national healthcare? It isn't something everyone should get automaticlly.

Is having a big military really good?

Yes... Why? Who really calls the shots in the world today? Who has the largest military in the Middle East? (hint: it isn't anyone who actually lives in the Middle East)

A military should be used to defend YOUR country, and occasionally assisting when others are being oppressed. Tax money has to pay for the BIG military, but the US borders have not really been in jeopardy since the English invaded for tax money.

Wrong, our borders are in jeopardy right now. A little event that occoured on 9/11/01 showed that we're under attack right now.

Besides, a good offense is usually the best defense. Holding our borders is not enough, we have to take the fight to the evil doers.

Are we the "greatest country in the world"? That depends on your definition of "greatest". I think so, but other nations like Great Britian, Canada, Germany, Spain, etc. have a lot going for them too.

Hopper

 

[MrChicken]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: MrChicken
"If you're a WASP or have money, yes."

That is pure Bullsh*t!

Millions upon millions have emigrated to the US to rise from the poor and oppressed.

Both sides of my family started with zilch when they came to America.

As did mine to Canada. And when they arrived, there was no slavery if you were black and the army wasn't out killing off "Indians". Since the principles of freedom were already wide spread in the 19th century, largely due to British and Scottish writers, Canada was actually more "free" than the US throughout its entire history. We just don't spend so much time talking about it, we live it.

What does that have to do being a WASP? Were you only referring to history or of recent times?
As far as living it, my ancestors all enjoyed freedom when they emigrated to the US. Those of that are still alive continue to enjoy it.

 

[dejacky]

what about nuclear weapons every1?

 

[mss242]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

what a meaningless moronic list of stupid reasons why the US is great

-We can have guns and lots of em'

so we can kill each other at the drop of a hat

-We accept you poor hungery needy from anywhere

wait, didn't we stop doing that about 50 years ago? Don't we kick people out now?

-We can eat anytype of food and buy anything in every major city

Yes, we can buy anything. . . except cuban cigars and medical marijuana in most states. But damn, we sure can buy those guns.

-You can do any trade anytime you want

???? No you can't. I can never buy anything from cuba or iraq. Hell, in PA I can't even buy alcohol from NJ and drive it into the state

-we have the best universties and scienists in the world.

Yes we do. Except for Oxford, Cambridge, IIT, etc.

-We have the best medical care (if you can afford the mayo clinic)

Great. If you're rich we can keep you alive with cancer till you're 90. But if you're homeless you'll probably die from dysentery.

 

[Daxxax]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: MrChicken
"If you're a WASP or have money, yes."

That is pure Bullsh*t!

Millions upon millions have emigrated to the US to rise from the poor and oppressed.

Both sides of my family started with zilch when they came to America.

As did mine to Canada. And when they arrived, there was no slavery if you were black and the army wasn't out killing off "Indians". Since the principles of freedom were already wide spread in the 19th century, largely due to British and Scottish writers, Canada was actually more "free" than the US throughout its entire history. We just don't spend so much time talking about it, we live it.

BS, My grandfather use to own a cabin up in Ontario, all he would ever do is complain about the Canadian goverment and all the power they have over individuals rights. By the way, what percent of your income do you pay in federal taxes??😉

 

[Queasy]

Katka, just curious...but, how old are you?

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: Daxxax

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: MrChicken
"If you're a WASP or have money, yes."

That is pure Bullsh*t!

Millions upon millions have emigrated to the US to rise from the poor and oppressed.

Both sides of my family started with zilch when they came to America.

As did mine to Canada. And when they arrived, there was no slavery if you were black and the army wasn't out killing off "Indians". Since the principles of freedom were already wide spread in the 19th century, largely due to British and Scottish writers, Canada was actually more "free" than the US throughout its entire history. We just don't spend so much time talking about it, we live it.

BS, My grandfather use to own a cabin up in Ontario, all he would ever do is complain about the Canadian goverment and all the power they have over individuals rights.

Now, who's bsing who? In some respects, American's don't have the same rights in Canada as Canadians.

By the way, what percent of your income do you pay in federal taxes??😉

I don't know, around 25 percent as I recall.

 

[docmanhattan]

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser
Name a country that has all those criteria then.

 

[Red Dawn]

Actually Canada has always had the enviable position of having it's defense taken care of by the Worlds Super Powers. One would think that since they didn't have to foot the bill for their own security that they would be able to fund a great number of Socially Progressive Programs that would have made them one of the Intellectual and Cultural Centers of the West. Well they are the Hockey Icon of the world.

 

[Nitemare]

Maybe if we eliminated affirmative action, women would open the doors for us men, go dutch on dates, register for selective services, leave the toilet seat up occasionally, and tell us that our jeans did not make us look fat...





The sooner you stop seeing black or white, male or female....the sooner we can all be equal.

 

[Corn]

I don't know, around 25 percent as I recall.

Canadian income tax tables. Anyone paying "around 25 percent" isn't doing too well......

Anyone making over $86,000 (Canadian dollars) in British Columbia (where Hagbard lives) can also count on tacking on an additional 14.7% in provincial income tax. Basically, anyone earning the equivalent of $60,000 USD in BC can look forward to having more than half of their income taken in income taxes alone.

Let's not forget about sales taxes hovering around 15% or property taxes.

BTW Hagturd, what do you think about this latest erosion of your rights?.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually Canada has always had the enviable position of having it's defense taken care of by the Worlds Super Powers. One would think that since they didn't have to foot the bill for their own security that they would be able to fund a great number of Socially Progressive Programs that would have made them one of the Intellectual and Cultural Centers of the West. Well they are the Hockey Icon of the world.

Hey, in most polls and the UN says we're number one. We are the cultural centre, we're just not obvious about it.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: Corn

I don't know, around 25 percent as I recall.

Canadian income tax tables. Anyone paying "around 25 percent" isn't doing too well......

Anyone making over $86,000 (Canadian dollars) in British Columbia (where Hagbard lives) can also count on tacking on an additional 14.7% in provincial income tax. Basically, anyone earning the equivalent of $60,000 USD in BC can look forward to having more than half of their income taken in income taxes alone.

Lots of deductions. You have to know how to "play the game". BTW, our household income is just under $100k a year.

Let's not forget about sales taxes hovering around 15% or property taxes.

Depends on the province. Alberta has no sales tax, so its just the 7% GST.

BTW Hagturd, what do you think about this latest erosion of your rights?.

Compared with the Patriot Acts I &II? Homeland Security? No problem. Besides, it a bill, most don't pass anyway. Maybe we can continue this discussion when you reach high school.

 

[Corn]

Lots of deductions. You have to know how to "play the game". BTW, our household income is just under $100k a year.

So, you've got $71,000 in deductions?

You never addressed Etech's post regarding this assault against the free speech rights of a Canadian human rights activist.

I don't think....

Yeah, tell me something I don't already know.

Maybe we can continue this discussion when you reach high school.

LOL, a high school punk and his high school insults, you wound me, really.

 

[Daxxax]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: Corn

I don't know, around 25 percent as I recall.

Canadian income tax tables. Anyone paying "around 25 percent" isn't doing too well......

Anyone making over $86,000 (Canadian dollars) in British Columbia (where Hagbard lives) can also count on tacking on an additional 14.7% in provincial income tax. Basically, anyone earning the equivalent of $60,000 USD in BC can look forward to having more than half of their income taken in income taxes alone.

Lots of deductions. You have to know how to "play the game". BTW, our household income is just under $100k a year.

Let's not forget about sales taxes hovering around 15% or property taxes.

Depends on the province. Alberta has no sales tax, so its just the 7% GST.

BTW Hagturd, what do you think about this latest erosion of your rights?.

Compared with the Patriot Acts I &II? Homeland Security? No problem. Besides, it a bill, most don't pass anyway. Maybe we can continue this discussion when you reach high school.

Uh, OK

, I don't think we need to debate the issue of Canada being a better nation then the USA, it's common knowledge that it's not.

 

[ragazzo]

Originally posted by: katka

Why should you benefit from the generosity of U.S. citizens ?

Don't want to benefit, would like to honor your request is all.

Why should we pay to get you out of the US? Since you're in the US, you can easily earn enough money to get out.

You missed the 50% taxation part huh.

I can get a job but more than 50% will be deposited back into the country that I am trying to escape from. With donation I don't have to take a job from an USA lover and I get to leave fast. ROTFLMAORH

50% taxation isn't exclusive to the USA. Norway, for example, is another country that has that much tax.

 

[Corn]

Well, as far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't pay a dime for Katka's get outta dodge fund. I find it gratifying that she is too poor to afford a one way plane ticket to anywhere. Nope, I'm happy she suffers the indignity of being stuck right here.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: hagbard

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Actually Canada has always had the enviable position of having it's defense taken care of by the Worlds Super Powers. One would think that since they didn't have to foot the bill for their own security that they would be able to fund a great number of Socially Progressive Programs that would have made them one of the Intellectual and Cultural Centers of the West. Well they are the Hockey Icon of the world.

Hey, in most polls and the UN says we're number one. We are the cultural centre, we're just not obvious about it.

What was I thinking. Any country that would give the world the McKenzie Brothers, Celine Deon and French Speaking Quebec has to be the Cultural Center of the World

 

[Corn]

What was I thinking. Any country that would give the world the McKenzie Brothers, Celine Deon and French Speaking Quebec has to be the Cultural Center of the World

Don't forget about Bryan Adams and William Shatner.

 

[hagbard]

Originally posted by: Corn

What was I thinking. Any country that would give the world the McKenzie Brothers, Celine Deon and French Speaking Quebec has to be the Cultural Center of the World

Don't forget about Bryan Adams and William Shatner.

Michael J. Fox, James Cameron, Atom Egoyan, David Cronenberg, Ivan Reitman, Lorne Michaels, Norm Jewison, Margot Kidder, Helen Shaver, Meg and Jennifer Tilly (local girls ;-), Pam Anderson (okay..), Jillian Hennessy, Arthur Kent, Peter Kent, Peter Jennings, Morley Safer, John Roberts, Linden Soles, Michael Ondaatje, Douglas Coupland, Saul Bellows, Robert McNeil, Jim Carrey, David James Elliott, Thomas Chong, James Doohan, Brenan Fraser, Graham Green, Lorne Greene, Phil Hartmann, Arthur Hill, Eugene Levy, Christopher Plummer, Jason Priestley, Keanu Reeves, Martin Short, Michael Myers, Howie Mandel....should I go on? Okay..Bryan Adams, Paul Anka, April Wine, Bachman-Turner Overdrive, Barenaked Ladies, Crash Test Dummies, Guess Who, Dianna Krall (another home towner), k.d. lang, Cowboy Junkies, Joni Mitchell, Oscar Peterson, Robbie Robertson, Rush, Hank Snow, Shania Twain, Nelly Furtado,Tragically Hip, Neil Young, Blue Rodeo, Steppenwolf, Holly Cole, and Gordon Lightfoot, Alanis Morissette, Sarah McLachlan, Leonard Cohen, Paul Shaffer ...still got more.


Dead: Jack Warner, Mary Pickford, Colleen Dewhurst, Marshall McLuhan, Raymond Burr, John Candy, Hume Cronyn, Walter Huston, Mack Sennett, Hank Snow.

 

[Corn]

Michael J. Fox, James Cameron, Atom Egoyan, David Cronenberg, Ivan Reitman, Lorne Michaels, Norm Jewison, Margot Kidder, Helen Shaver, Meg and Jennifer Tilly (local girls ;-), Pam Anderson (okay..), Jillian Hennessy, Arthur Kent, Peter Kent, Peter Jennings, Morley Safer, John Roberts, Linden Soles, Michael Ondaatje, Douglas Coupland, Saul Bellows, Robert McNeil, Jim Carrey, David James Elliott, Thomas Chong, James Doohan, Brenan Fraser, Graham Green, Lorne Greene, Phil Hartmann, Arthur Hill, Eugene Levy, Christopher Plummer, Jason Priestley, Keanu Reeves, Martin Short, Michael Myers, Howie Mandel....should I go on?


Dead: Jack Warner, Mary Pickford, Colleen Dewhurst, Marshall McLuhan, Raymond Burr, John Candy, Hume Cronyn, Walter Huston, Mack Sennett.

It's hard to tell if you are trying to impress me or mock Canada's cultural contributions...........