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Tuvoc

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Originally posted by: JustaGeek

So... if you are stable under any BIOS version, DO NOT UPDATE TO NEWER BIOS VERSIONS UNLESS YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO FOR A NEW CPU OR NEW HARDWARE


Sound advice. If the latest BIOS really has fixed the 4 x 1GB memory hole though, then I'd be willing to try it :D

 

thebanik

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Hi, I am new to this board, but one word of caution for 0703 bios, I have an E4300 which i was able to take till 3.55Ghz and for 24/7 use i had it @ 3.33 Ghz, but with 0703 bios update I am not able to boot into windows anything above 2.5 Ghz. I wud say if you dont have any issue then dont upgrade. And If any1 else has faced this issue and has been able to resolve the issue then please update.
 

imported_Zip

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i have the same issue with the 0703 bios and an e4300. im back at stock from 3.2ghz. its quite fustrating... at least my temps are down.

overclocking motherboard my foot.
 

Tuvoc

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Crikey, that's not good news for the 0703 BIOS then. I wonder if it is just the E4300 or it's more widespread ? Think I'll stick to 0608 for a while
 

thebanik

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^^^It might be just E4300, because for some reason this board doesnt like this chip....even the bios holes are mainly for the E4300.
 

imported_Zip

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yeah unfortunately the cpu choice has caused the majority of my headaches with this board. thinking of going quad soon anyway :)
 

helix2

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Seems ok so far. No post-flash BSODs etc. Have a couple questions about overclocking this puppy.



1) i noticed after i set the VCore to 1.31 in bios it is only like 1.26/1.28. What the heck? I have a Q6600 G0 and am trying to overclock it a bit. Why is the voltage .05-.03 volts away from what it is supposed to be.




2) Can people list some Voltages/multiplier/etc they used to overclock. Right now my memory is 4/4/4/12/2t. What should the VCore be? NBridge? etc. Help is appreciated.



Got one BSOD since i upgraded my CPU (pre 0708). If it happens again i'll probably sell this and go to a 680i. I'd prefer to wait for the next generation from Nvidia though since by then i'm hoping they have this crap worked out.
 

thebanik

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Originally posted by: helix2
Seems ok so far. No post-flash BSODs etc. Have a couple questions about overclocking this puppy.



1) i noticed after i set the VCore to 1.31 in bios it is only like 1.26/1.28. What the heck? I have a Q6600 G0 and am trying to overclock it a bit. Why is the voltage .05-.03 volts away from what it is supposed to be.




2) Can people list some Voltages/multiplier/etc they used to overclock. Right now my memory is 4/4/4/12/2t. What should the VCore be? NBridge? etc. Help is appreciated.



Got one BSOD since i upgraded my CPU (pre 0708). If it happens again i'll probably sell this and go to a 680i. I'd prefer to wait for the next generation from Nvidia though since by then i'm hoping they have this crap worked out.

1) Thats called vdrop my friend, and it happens with majority of the mobos. Nothing to worry about. And did you think you will not increase the vcore more than 1.31 for overclocking????

2) If you are into extreme to moderate overclocking then increase the NB voltage to 1.53V, offset to +100mav. Since its a Q6600 G0, i wudnt be able to help you out on the VCore volts, but you can pretty safely bump it to 1.48V if needed, though with these G0s i dont think you will need to bump it too high.
 

helix2

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Ah the dreaded vdroop. Is that common in most mobos or more prevalent in this series. Will pump up the voltage then to get it higher. Any reccomendations out there?




Originally posted by: thebanik
Originally posted by: helix2
Seems ok so far. No post-flash BSODs etc. Have a couple questions about overclocking this puppy.



1) i noticed after i set the VCore to 1.31 in bios it is only like 1.26/1.28. What the heck? I have a Q6600 G0 and am trying to overclock it a bit. Why is the voltage .05-.03 volts away from what it is supposed to be.




2) Can people list some Voltages/multiplier/etc they used to overclock. Right now my memory is 4/4/4/12/2t. What should the VCore be? NBridge? etc. Help is appreciated.



Got one BSOD since i upgraded my CPU (pre 0708). If it happens again i'll probably sell this and go to a 680i. I'd prefer to wait for the next generation from Nvidia though since by then i'm hoping they have this crap worked out.

1) Thats called vdrop my friend, and it happens with majority of the mobos. Nothing to worry about. And did you think you will not increase the vcore more than 1.31 for overclocking????

2) If you are into extreme to moderate overclocking then increase the NB voltage to 1.53V, offset to +100mav. Since its a Q6600 G0, i wudnt be able to help you out on the VCore volts, but you can pretty safely bump it to 1.48V if needed, though with these G0s i dont think you will need to bump it too high.

 

noelbuela

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Aug 22, 2007
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hi guys! im new here as well with this board,,can someone give me a link to an aftermarket heatsink that will fit to this holes thanks guys

holes


**link
 

paladinox

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Originally posted by: noelbuela
hi guys! im new here as well with this board,,can someone give me a link to an aftermarket heatsink that will fit to this holes thanks guys

holes


**link

I got a SB heatsink to my board from an old A7V266 mx northbridge.
Maybe there are something like this. But smaller.
Now i'm looking for something that fit in these mosfets, btw i think they are not so hot.

Is it possible to install any heatsink there with Intel stock cooler? Maybe not...
My big typhoon arrived today and now i really need that fets heatsink.

any advice?
 

Bat123Man

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Hi,

I am having a problem with the Nvidia nForce Networking Controller. It is working fine, this message is being posted via the onboard NIC on my P5N-E SLI, but the card has disappeared from Network Connections. There is only the 1394 Connection listed. I have just reinstalled XP + SP2 on my brand new setup. It is working like a charm, but I cannot configure the onboard NIC to a static IP because of this problem. For now I am using DHCP from my router, but I want to get the contoller showing up in Network Connections. When I go into Device Manager, the NIC is listed there along with the 1394 connection, and it is correctly listed as Enabled. Driver version is 67.1.5.0 (Nov 20 2006).

Also, I am not the only one having this problem with the P5N-E SLI. When searching on google for "nvidia nforce networking controller not showing up in network connections", I came across a bunch of forum hits. Notice I did not include the mobo model in my search, but the first bunch of hits were all various posters stating exactly the same thing with exactly the same mobo! So I assume there is a solution to this issue.

When I installed the new system, it was a fresh install of XP. Then I added the drivers from the mobo CD, and updated them via the Nvidia site with the latest nForce drivers. Initially I had Network Manager on, but took it off when it started listing DCOM errors in my Even Viewer. Maybe it zapped my icon in Control Panel - Network Connections? As I said, the NIC is working fine, it is just not listed. Perhaps Media Shield has something to do with this? I guess people can't screw up their connections if they aren't even listed.....

Any help appreciated. In other news, I finally won my first game of NHL07 since installing the new system. Final score? Leafs 2 - Oilers 1!

Thanks,
BM.
 

JustaGeek

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Try to re-install the network driver.

Use the installer package from NVidia website, but choose the installation of the Network Driver alone.

In the end it will ask you for the Network Manager - choose NO.

Hope it works.

BTW, if you choose to install/update the other drivers (chipset and IDE) do it 3 separate times with the reboot in between installations (e.g. Network "check", Media Shield/Chipset "uncheck") reboot, then the other ones from the same installer package.

Good luck!
 

thebanik

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Aug 20, 2007
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Originally posted by: helix2
Ah the dreaded vdroop. Is that common in most mobos or more prevalent in this series. Will pump up the voltage then to get it higher. Any reccomendations out there?




Originally posted by: thebanik
Originally posted by: helix2
Seems ok so far. No post-flash BSODs etc. Have a couple questions about overclocking this puppy.



1) i noticed after i set the VCore to 1.31 in bios it is only like 1.26/1.28. What the heck? I have a Q6600 G0 and am trying to overclock it a bit. Why is the voltage .05-.03 volts away from what it is supposed to be.




2) Can people list some Voltages/multiplier/etc they used to overclock. Right now my memory is 4/4/4/12/2t. What should the VCore be? NBridge? etc. Help is appreciated.



Got one BSOD since i upgraded my CPU (pre 0708). If it happens again i'll probably sell this and go to a 680i. I'd prefer to wait for the next generation from Nvidia though since by then i'm hoping they have this crap worked out.

1) Thats called vdrop my friend, and it happens with majority of the mobos. Nothing to worry about. And did you think you will not increase the vcore more than 1.31 for overclocking????

2) If you are into extreme to moderate overclocking then increase the NB voltage to 1.53V, offset to +100mav. Since its a Q6600 G0, i wudnt be able to help you out on the VCore volts, but you can pretty safely bump it to 1.48V if needed, though with these G0s i dont think you will need to bump it too high.

Its more prevalent with Asus, though vdrop happens with almost every other manufacturer as well. And as mentioned we are talking about vdrop here, vdroop is different. Will save the definition for later..:)

Now as far as increasing the vcore volts is concerned, i cannot give you specific settings other than mentioned before but bumping it up to 1.48-1.50 is totally safe if you are using an aftermarket cooler. Just keep monitoring the temps, personally i dont like anything above 60C, though they can work at higher temps as well.
 

Tuvoc

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On my quad, the board undervolts immediately by .05v - CPU default is 1.35v and Everest shows 1.30v at idle in Windows. Then under full load it can drop further to 1.22v !!
On the bright side, the CPU is OK with that, and I guess it keeps temps down a little.... Certainly when I've overclocked I thought it wise to increase vcore slightly to counter the vdroop. But, we are assuming that the figures reported by software are accurate in the first place. There was a post many pages back which said the vdroop isn't as bad as is suggested
 

Bat123Man

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JustaGeek,

Thanks for the reply. I have just remembered something which I am sure is key to this issue. I bought a new mobo (P5N-E SLI) and tried to do a repair install of XP to try to replace drivers which my old Athlon mobo were using. That just made a mess, so I bought a brand new Seagate SATA II 7200.10 drive and installed a fresh copy of XP. Everything is working perfectly now, except for this problem. The kicker is that during the XP install, after it had finished the initial portion, it asked me if I wanted to configure the network. Since I use a static IP for this machine, I went to configure it and was very surprised to see only the 1394 Connection listed. At the time, I put it down to not having the Nvidia NIC drivers in place, and carried on figuring to fix it later.

Now is later. I now realize that this problem pre-dates the installation of ANY nVidia drivers. I have also found many forum posts on it, but no answers as of yet. Even Dakata24 from this board posted the same thing on 05/04/2007 (page 173). I then found this massive MS technote on icons not showing up in Network Connections ; http://support.microsoft.com/d...x?scid=kb;en-us;825826

I went through the entire technote following each step. Nada, still the same. Then I did as you suggested, uninstalled all nvidia drivers (except video) and reinstalled only Ethernet. Same. I have since reinstalled the SMB driver just to get rid of the ! in Device Manager. I have no exclamation points now, Media Shield is not installed, nor is NAM. Internet is working (as you can see from this post), but still the NIC is not in Network Connections.

Any other ideas?
 

Bat123Man

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It is precisely 51mm. It's too bad, that cooler would have been absolutely perfect for this board because it is only 11mm high. I also measured the clearance under my 8800 GTS to the board at 15mm, but that cooler is only 11.6mm high so it would fit under an SLI rig and cool the southbridge. But it won't fit because the specs say 54.6mm min.

BM.
 

Bat123Man

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You may want to check out this post :

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

It's page 92 where JustaGeek recommends buying this hilarious piece of engineering :
http://www.ncix.com/products/i...nufacture=THERMALRIGHT

It will cool the southbridge but still allow you to run in SLI. To be honest, it doesn't look like you would have the clearance with 2 big honkin' 8800 GTS cards installed, but maybe you would have off the bottom of the board? I dunno. If you can find another one just like you did which is 51mm diagonally across, please let me know. I'll like to get a heatsync on the SB so that I can start OC'ing, but I don't want to have to worry about it a year from now when I can pick up another vid card which matches mine for half the price I paid.

Bm.
 

JustaGeek

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Originally posted by: Bat123Man
You may want to check out this post :

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

It's page 92 where JustaGeek recommends buying this hilarious piece of engineering :
http://www.ncix.com/products/i...nufacture=THERMALRIGHT

It will cool the southbridge but still allow you to run in SLI. To be honest, it doesn't look like you would have the clearance with 2 big honkin' 8800 GTS cards installed, but maybe you would have off the bottom of the board? I dunno. If you can find another one just like you did which is 51mm diagonally across, please let me know. I'll like to get a heatsync on the SB so that I can start OC'ing, but I don't want to have to worry about it a year from now when I can pick up another vid card which matches mine for half the price I paid.

Bm.

LOL No, it wasn't me recommending it, but this piece of egineering, however hilarious, is used with great success by many people.

Regarding your network issue - just do the Repair Install of Windows, and skip the Network configuration. You won't loose any applications, and it will give you an opportunity to properly re-install the motherboard drivers.
 

jdrom17

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Originally posted by: noelbuela
hi please help,,can anyone give me the hole-to-hole distance of the SB im planning to put this cooler,,but im not sure if this will fit in,,thanks guys

That heatsink will not fit. I bought one thinking it would, and ended up bricking my board somehow while installing it. It was and extremely tight fit, with the push pin things at an angle basically. After I had it on, the motherboard would no longer post. Had to return the motherboard for warranty. It was deemed un-repairable and I got a new one.


Has anyone moved to the new BIOS 0708 yet? I'm on 0608 right now and all is well.
 

thebanik

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Aug 20, 2007
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Originally posted by: Bat123Man
You may want to check out this post :

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

It's page 92 where JustaGeek recommends buying this hilarious piece of engineering :
http://www.ncix.com/products/i...nufacture=THERMALRIGHT

It will cool the southbridge but still allow you to run in SLI. To be honest, it doesn't look like you would have the clearance with 2 big honkin' 8800 GTS cards installed, but maybe you would have off the bottom of the board? I dunno. If you can find another one just like you did which is 51mm diagonally across, please let me know. I'll like to get a heatsync on the SB so that I can start OC'ing, but I don't want to have to worry about it a year from now when I can pick up another vid card which matches mine for half the price I paid.

Bm.

Man, thats the best NB cooler in the world, and you find it hilarious??? i find your humour hilarious. And its a NB cooler, its not for SB, if you try force then u might break something. In any case on 65oi chipsets SB doesnt get too hot, that you wud require a cooler.
 

Kikko

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Aug 25, 2007
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Hi,

I've tried recently one of the new Q6600 rev. G0, which has to be very good overclockers. Unfortunatly I have encountered some kind of FSB wall. It occurs somewhere around 1200-1250 and nothing above can post normally, which leads to necessity of reseting the CMOS from the jumper.

Considering the 9x multi, this is a very poor overclock for the potential this CPU has. Lowered the multi to 8x, absolutely the same thing.

Of course I've tried different values for the NB voltage, but that didn't help.

I have tested before 2 E4300s on the same board. This CPU has the same multiplier and it did 1550 FSB stable, which was actually the CPU frequency limit.

I was using the 0608 Bios at first, then moved to 0703 - nothing changed. Has anyone experienced similar problems?