idiotekniQues
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Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
my 1t handlin mobo is going back. if anybody wants it bid to me by tomorra night.
Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
is there a store where i can just buy pushpins so i can re-attach my NB heatsink?
Originally posted by: Core2
Good job. Thats all you have to do. Although I would have just up the NB first and tried that. Try to change one setting at a time and record it. This way you are not applying unnecessary voltage or setting. Good core temps. That E6600 will run a little hotter than the E6400 and the E6300. MB temps seem a little warm. Do you have enough case cooling. You memory is running 1:1 ratio right now and thats a good start. Well try something higher later. Run your tests and enjoy it. You have a good chip there and you really don't have to push it to get a decent FSB or cpu speed. I was thinking of getting one but, I already have 3 two E6400 and a E6300. I should have just bought one X6800. Nice chipset fan! Don't forget lights make heat. Let me know how easy it was to change and your results
Originally posted by: HRPretzel
Ok right now I'm a@:
NB 1.56 Vcore 1.33 Vdimm 2.08
Temp: Cores 41&42C, Mobo 37C
FSB 1550
Mem 775 4-4-4-12-2T
As far as airflow to my Mobo, I have an Antec p180 with a front 120mm intake, and 2x 120mm exhaust back and top. It would probably be cooler with a side fan blowing directly on the Mobo but this case doesn't have that. I'm constantly working on cable management and replaced the intake fan with a stronger silverstone but there's only so much I can do.
It seems the NB voltage is the big limiting factor, I couldn't go over 750 & 1500 on 1.39 and once I bumped it up to 1.56 I can now hit 775 & 1550. I'm guessing I'll have to bump it up to the max to hit my goal of 800 & 1600. Now of course I don't want to run it that high/hot 4-ever so can I turn my memory back to 800 with my FSB set @ 1500 (so I can keep my NB @ 1.39)or is it important to keep the 1:1 ratio with the FSB?
Originally posted by: jkcheng122
Originally posted by: HRPretzel
Ok right now I'm a@:
NB 1.56 Vcore 1.33 Vdimm 2.08
Temp: Cores 41&42C, Mobo 37C
FSB 1550
Mem 775 4-4-4-12-2T
As far as airflow to my Mobo, I have an Antec p180 with a front 120mm intake, and 2x 120mm exhaust back and top. It would probably be cooler with a side fan blowing directly on the Mobo but this case doesn't have that. I'm constantly working on cable management and replaced the intake fan with a stronger silverstone but there's only so much I can do.
It seems the NB voltage is the big limiting factor, I couldn't go over 750 & 1500 on 1.39 and once I bumped it up to 1.56 I can now hit 775 & 1550. I'm guessing I'll have to bump it up to the max to hit my goal of 800 & 1600. Now of course I don't want to run it that high/hot 4-ever so can I turn my memory back to 800 with my FSB set @ 1500 (so I can keep my NB @ 1.39)or is it important to keep the 1:1 ratio with the FSB?
i too have a p180, and can pull 900/1800 on 1.56 nb voltage, some of the guys here can pull that with 1.36, so i highly doubt u need to go over 1.56 to reach your goal.
Originally posted by: HRPretzel
Originally posted by: Core2
Ok right now I'm a@:
NB 1.56 Vcore 1.33 Vdimm 2.08
Temp: Cores 41&42C, Mobo 37C
FSB 1550
Mem 775 4-4-4-12-2T
As far as airflow to my Mobo, I have an Antec p180 with a front 120mm intake, and 2x 120mm exhaust back and top. It would probably be cooler with a side fan blowing directly on the Mobo but this case doesn't have that. I'm constantly working on cable management and replaced the intake fan with a stronger silverstone but there's only so much I can do.
It seems the NB voltage is the big limiting factor, I couldn't go over 750 & 1500 on 1.39 and once I bumped it up to 1.56 I can now hit 775 & 1550. I'm guessing I'll have to bump it up to the max to hit my goal of 800 & 1600. Now of course I don't want to run it that high/hot 4-ever so can I turn my memory back to 800 with my FSB set @ 1500 (so I can keep my NB @ 1.39)or is it important to keep the 1:1 ratio with the FSB?
One of the main goals in designing dual-channel memory interfaces is to match the CPU bus to the memory bus, thereby creating a synchronous link between the two
Memory to CPU Bus speed is proportional
Your situation: E6600 2.4 with a default multiplier of 9
A CPU Bus speed of 355 and mem set @ 710 = 355 / (710 / 2 Dual Channel = 355) or a 1:1 divider
To get the FSB you multiply the bus speed which = 355 x 4(QDR) = 1420 FSB
To get the CPU core speed= Multiplier =9 x CPU bus = 355 = 3195MHz
A CPU Bus speed of 500 and mem set @ 800 = 500 / (800 / 2 Dual channel = 400) or a 5:4 divider
To get the FSB you multiply the bus speed which = 500 x 4(QDR) = 2000 FSB
To get the CPU core speed Multiplier =9 x CPU bus = 500 = 4500MHz
So to answer your question. Yes, you can run your ram at 800 speed and set the FSB to what you want it will change the synchronous link between CPU bus and Memory Bus to a ratio other than 1:1 (even speed) which means they will be running at different speeds and sill be in sync
Don't forget higher clocking means usually changes to you voltages and mem timings and added cooling
Also download CPU-Z
it will help you understand the relationship better
Raising your memory up to 800MHz will only increase chances of having to increase voltages not lower them because you are actually raising the memory bus speed up faster. You can loosen your timings to 5-4-4-12 like I did and see if that lets your run at lower NB voltage or 5-5-5-12 and don't forget you can drop your multiplier down too.
Does that help
Ryan, Maybe you can help me out here if you see some points that I have overlooked (you have the better vocabulary in explaining these things) I'm a real debacle when it comes to this. If someone else wants to give it try Please do.
Originally posted by: Core2
Hey HRPretzel
Did you get any sleep last night
Originally posted by: Core2
Originally posted by: HRPretzel
Originally posted by: Core2
Ok right now I'm a@:
NB 1.56 Vcore 1.33 Vdimm 2.08
Temp: Cores 41&42C, Mobo 37C
FSB 1550
Mem 775 4-4-4-12-2T
As far as airflow to my Mobo, I have an Antec p180 with a front 120mm intake, and 2x 120mm exhaust back and top. It would probably be cooler with a side fan blowing directly on the Mobo but this case doesn't have that. I'm constantly working on cable management and replaced the intake fan with a stronger silverstone but there's only so much I can do.
It seems the NB voltage is the big limiting factor, I couldn't go over 750 & 1500 on 1.39 and once I bumped it up to 1.56 I can now hit 775 & 1550. I'm guessing I'll have to bump it up to the max to hit my goal of 800 & 1600. Now of course I don't want to run it that high/hot 4-ever so can I turn my memory back to 800 with my FSB set @ 1500 (so I can keep my NB @ 1.39)or is it important to keep the 1:1 ratio with the FSB?
One of the main goals in designing dual-channel memory interfaces is to match the CPU bus to the memory bus, thereby creating a synchronous link between the two
Memory to CPU Bus speed is proportional
Your situation: E6600 2.4 with a default multiplier of 9
A CPU Bus speed of 355 and mem set @ 710 = 355 / (710 / 2 Dual Channel = 355) or a 1:1 divider
To get the FSB you multiply the bus speed which = 355 x 4(QDR) = 1420 FSB
To get the CPU core speed= Multiplier =9 x CPU bus = 355 = 3195MHz
A CPU Bus speed of 500 and mem set @ 800 = 500 / (800 / 2 Dual channel = 400) or a 5:4 divider
To get the FSB you multiply the bus speed which = 500 x 4(QDR) = 2000 FSB
To get the CPU core speed Multiplier =9 x CPU bus = 500 = 4500MHz
So to answer your question. Yes, you can run your ram at 800 speed and set the FSB to what you want it will change the synchronous link between CPU bus and Memory Bus to a ratio other than 1:1 (even speed) which means they will be running at different speeds and sill be in sync
Don't forget higher clocking means usually changes to you voltages and mem timings and added cooling
Also download CPU-Z
it will help you understand the relationship better
Raising your memory up to 800MHz will only increase chances of having to increase voltages not lower them because you are actually raising the memory bus speed up faster. You can loosen your timings to 5-4-4-12 like I did and see if that lets your run at lower NB voltage or 5-5-5-12 and don't forget you can drop your multiplier down too.
Does that help
Ryan, Maybe you can help me out here if you see some points that I have overlooked (you have the better vocabulary in explaining these things) I'm a real debacle when it comes to this. If someone else wants to give it try Please do.
no that sounds pretty good to me. only thing i dont know is what kind of cpu fsb holes there are with multi's higher than 8. i think we've covered the ones for 7 and 8.
and NB voltage doesn't seem to be affected by overall cpu frequency but just by a higher fsb. i didn't need to set mine to 1.59 for 8x1750 (475 quad) but i did need it with 7x1950(487 quad) so technically i could be at 3.5ghz with a 1.39 NB voltage but then i'd lose my 1,000mhz ram speed by being synched 1:1
Originally posted by: adder1971
Originally posted by: Core2
Hey HRPretzel
Did you get any sleep last night
nah, he probably had 3 instances of super-pi going and some cpu-z justwatching the pretty numbers like me![]()
Originally posted by: adder1971
Originally posted by: Core2
Originally posted by: HRPretzel
Originally posted by: Core2
no that sounds pretty good to me. only thing i dont know is what kind of cpu fsb holes there are with multi's higher than 8. i think we've covered the ones for 7 and 8.
and NB voltage doesn't seem to be affected by overall cpu frequency but just by a higher fsb. i didn't need to set mine to 1.59 for 8x1750 (475 quad) but i did need it with 7x1950(487 quad) so technically i could be at 3.5ghz with a 1.39 NB voltage but then i'd lose my 1,000mhz ram speed by being synched 1:1
Your right. I forgot about the holes and I never really tested 355 - 399 I went right to 400. Now, I know JonDom has a E6600 and he loves 400x9=3600 I'm not sure of his settings If you browse back through some of posts I'm sure he has it listed
Originally posted by: Core2
Hey HRPretzel
Did you get any sleep last night
Raising your memory up to 800MHz will only increase chances of having to increase voltages not lower them because you are actually raising the memory bus speed up faster. You can loosen your timings to 5-4-4-12 like I did and see if that lets your run at lower NB voltage or 5-5-5-12 and don't forget you can drop your multiplier down too.
Originally posted by: HRPretzel
How do I adjust my multiplier?
Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
every game but the Indy-Baltimore game was great to watch.
my giants stunk it up this year but im rootin for the saints to go all the way. gonna be tough but they made it this far.
Originally posted by: Core2
Originally posted by: adder1971
Originally posted by: Core2
Hey HRPretzel
Did you get any sleep last night
nah, he probably had 3 instances of super-pi going and some cpu-z justwatching the pretty numbers like me![]()
Hey, Did you ever do that pencil mod
Originally posted by: adder1971
Originally posted by: Core2
Originally posted by: adder1971
Originally posted by: Core2
Hey HRPretzel
Did you get any sleep last night
nah, he probably had 3 instances of super-pi going and some cpu-z justwatching the pretty numbers like me![]()
Hey, Did you ever do that pencil mod
not yet. i'm not really sure what my vdimm is so i'd rather not mess with it yet. vcore if i use the +100mv option i have 1.60 including vdroop. should be plenty for me right now.
Originally posted by: Core2
HRPretzel
Just try 1600/800 and see what happens with your looser timings. You will be 1:1 and it will get you to 3600MHz. Try to put you FSB/Mem speed, CPU speed, timings and voltages in your sig so we can see them, like everyone else has
