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adder1971

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Originally posted by: aintitthelife98
what does everyone feel a safe temperature (per coretemp) is to take my 6400 up to? Right now I'm running at 2.9ghz and showing temps of 58C per coretemp. I'd like to push up over 3ghz but I don't want to have it running too hot.

This is on stock cooling by the way. I know its not optimal but we are currently house hunting and any further part shopping is off limits and I plan on rebuliding my watercooling setup after we are settled.

Also, I'll be updating my sig with all my details after I get home tonight and experimenting a bit more with RAM placement.

Whats your load voltage? and as core2 John has said change out that cooler.

Boy, You guys take a long lunch break lol

haha, i actually had to work today. no more sick days for me. cough cough :)
 

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another review here:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/434/1/
sucks they send ppl to newegg to buy it when Directron.com sells it for cheaper.

Why do you get a commission? What are your return policy's? I'd do business with you if you can offer what they do. I sometimes buy my boards from ZipZoomFly they offer a 30 day exchange and free shipping on most orders and the Egg sometimes only offers 15 days like this one and chg shipping with inflated prices. I paid 134 free ship from Zip

i dont get a commission, i said that primarily as a statement against them promoting newegg when other vendors have lower prices. i'm not sure what our own return policy is in regard to shipping fees since i just bring it back and grab another one and i dont work at customer service or sales.

 
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Originally posted by: adder1971
Originally posted by: aintitthelife98
what does everyone feel a safe temperature (per coretemp) is to take my 6400 up to? Right now I'm running at 2.9ghz and showing temps of 58C per coretemp. I'd like to push up over 3ghz but I don't want to have it running too hot.

This is on stock cooling by the way. I know its not optimal but we are currently house hunting and any further part shopping is off limits and I plan on rebuliding my watercooling setup after we are settled.

Also, I'll be updating my sig with all my details after I get home tonight and experimenting a bit more with RAM placement.

Whats your load voltage? and as core2 John has said change out that cooler.

Load Voltage is 1.168v per CPU-z. I can't remember what I have it at in the bios but its something like 1.225 or along those lines. Its been running Orthos for 15 hours and 15 minutes as of right now at those settings and its stable. I'm running 8x363FSB and then running my RAM unlinked at 400.

I'd love to get a better cooler but like I said parts purchasing is out of the question right now (or at least if I want to stay married). It seems like 58C is pretty good all things consider. If I can get it above 3ghz with the max temp staying below 65C I'm going to go for it.
 

jkcheng122

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SB is really easy to get a heatsink/fan on. i used the the nb fan on my a8n-sli that was sent by asus for free after they had issues with a lot of the chipset fans either fail or were obnoxiously loud (louder than a 7800GT stock cooler).

putting something on the sb is as easy as lining up the holes and pushing in the pins. removing will require taking off the mobo unless u dont mind breaking the pushpins.

sorry john, couldnt help you out, thursday is the busiest day of my week. i never had the time to check this thread.
 

adder1971

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Originally posted by: aintitthelife98
Originally posted by: adder1971
Originally posted by: aintitthelife98
what does everyone feel a safe temperature (per coretemp) is to take my 6400 up to? Right now I'm running at 2.9ghz and showing temps of 58C per coretemp. I'd like to push up over 3ghz but I don't want to have it running too hot.

This is on stock cooling by the way. I know its not optimal but we are currently house hunting and any further part shopping is off limits and I plan on rebuliding my watercooling setup after we are settled.

Also, I'll be updating my sig with all my details after I get home tonight and experimenting a bit more with RAM placement.

Whats your load voltage? and as core2 John has said change out that cooler.

Load Voltage is 1.168v per CPU-z. I can't remember what I have it at in the bios but its something like 1.225 or along those lines. Its been running Orthos for 15 hours and 15 minutes as of right now at those settings and its stable. I'm running 8x363FSB and then running my RAM unlinked at 400.

I'd love to get a better cooler but like I said parts purchasing is out of the question right now (or at least if I want to stay married). It seems like 58C is pretty good all things consider. If I can get it above 3ghz with the max temp staying below 65C I'm going to go for it.

Sounds sweet to be able to get it to work at such low volts. let me know what voltage you have to set it to in bios to get it to work at >3ghz and what cpu-z reads under load. sounds like you got a cooler running chip like John's.

Ryan
 

adder1971

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Originally posted by: jkcheng122
SB is really easy to get a heatsink/fan on. i used the the nb fan on my a8n-sli that was sent by asus for free after they had issues with a lot of the chipset fans either fail or were obnoxiously loud (louder than a 7800GT stock cooler).

putting something on the sb is as easy as lining up the holes and pushing in the pins. removing will require taking off the mobo unless u dont mind breaking the pushpins.

sorry john, couldnt help you out, thursday is the busiest day of my week. i never had the time to check this thread.

i tried using an old NB from an amd setup but it didnt fit. was too large to line up with the holes. dang the luck. gonna order up a new cd/dvd burner, mouse and keyboard, and a replacement (quieter) side fan for this case and i'll get a chipset cooler as well.
 

Core2

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Originally posted by: jkcheng122
SB is really easy to get a heatsink/fan on. i used the the nb fan on my a8n-sli that was sent by asus for free after they had issues with a lot of the chipset fans either fail or were obnoxiously loud (louder than a 7800GT stock cooler).

putting something on the sb is as easy as lining up the holes and pushing in the pins. removing will require taking off the mobo unless u dont mind breaking the pushpins.

sorry john, couldnt help you out, thursday is the busiest day of my week. i never had the time to check this thread.

Where do you live that its Thursday???????
 

jkcheng122

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Originally posted by: Core2
Originally posted by: jkcheng122
SB is really easy to get a heatsink/fan on. i used the the nb fan on my a8n-sli that was sent by asus for free after they had issues with a lot of the chipset fans either fail or were obnoxiously loud (louder than a 7800GT stock cooler).

putting something on the sb is as easy as lining up the holes and pushing in the pins. removing will require taking off the mobo unless u dont mind breaking the pushpins.

sorry john, couldnt help you out, thursday is the busiest day of my week. i never had the time to check this thread.

Where do you live that its Thursday???????

i meant yesterday, notice i made no posts yesterday.

 

adder1971

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Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
nm.

what are your core temps under full load with core temp or speedfan? maybe it is throttling down. i get about 10K in 05 but haven't done 06 yet. (look to this weekend) not sure what scores we should roughly get.

here's a good link for some comparisons.

VGA Charts 3dmark06
 

Core2

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At 3300 I think I had a score of 5763 and our SLI man scored 8100 so I don't know if thats to bad of a score.
I know this is a Nvidia chipset so maybe it don't like your ATI card and gave you a bad score lol
I don't how your 1950 compares with our 7900gs so I maybe wrong
 

idiotekniQues

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i get over 10k in 05. i guess 06 is a killer because in comparison results on my page e6600's with the same graphics card and practically same OC is getting over 8000 compared to my e6400. the main difference is the 2mb vs 4mb cache. but everywhere ive read says that the 2mb vs 4mb cache did not improve gaming scores and only a few types of apps of which one was winrar lol i also read a few people taht compared their 6400 to 6600 rigs in 3dmark and they did not improve.

maybe 06 is different.

here is a guy with an e6600 runnin at 3.3 and the same card - does he have sli and it isnt telling me or am i blind? http://service.futuremark.com/orb/proje...4&projectId=955027&ownProjectId=986226

here is mine http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resul....jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=7566668
 

adder1971

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Originally posted by: Core2
At 3300 I think I had a score of 5763 and our SLI man scored 8100 so I don't know if thats to bad of a score.
I know this is a Nvidia chipset so maybe it don't like your ATI card and gave you a bad score lol
I don't how your 1950 compares with our 7900gs so I maybe wrong

John have you tried oc'ing your 7900gs yet. they are cheap little beasts.
 

idiotekniQues

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well to contribute something i found that my nb seems to be the limiting factor. as i approach 3.2ghz i have to up my nb to the 1.59 or i get errors in orthos. ive tried it twice and each time the only thing i changed was the nb voltage from the 1.3 setting to the 1.59 and it makes the difference.

i have my vcore at 1.35 and it usually shows between 1.31 and 1.33 in asus probe so i may kick it up one more notch but i doubt it. in fact i may lower it since i dont even know if i need it that high.

i have been touching my NB heatsing, the HR-05, fanless. and it is definitely warm approaching hot but i can keep my hand there forever without itbeing too hot.

so i think that is ok
 

Core2

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Originally posted by: adder1971
Originally posted by: Core2
At 3300 I think I had a score of 5763 and our SLI man scored 8100 so I don't know if thats to bad of a score.
I know this is a Nvidia chipset so maybe it don't like your ATI card and gave you a bad score lol
I don't how your 1950 compares with our 7900gs so I maybe wrong

John have you tried oc'ing your 7900gs yet. they are cheap little beasts.

Yes, I diid the same as you Newegg openbox 139.00 619/824
Bought 2
 

adder1971

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Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
i get over 10k in 05. i guess 06 is a killer because in comparison results on my page e6600's with the same graphics card and practically same OC is getting over 8000 compared to my e6400. the main difference is the 2mb vs 4mb cache. but everywhere ive read says that the 2mb vs 4mb cache did not improve gaming scores and only a few types of apps of which one was winrar lol i also read a few people taht compared their 6400 to 6600 rigs in 3dmark and they did not improve.

maybe 06 is different.

here is a guy with an e6600 runnin at 3.3 and the same card - does he have sli and it isnt telling me or am i blind? http://service.futuremark.com/orb/proje...4&projectId=955027&ownProjectId=986226

here is mine http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resul....jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=7566668

his says co-operative adapters = yes. i have to believe he has a crossfire setup. cant imagine drivers making that big of an impact.
 

adder1971

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Originally posted by: Core2
Originally posted by: adder1971
Originally posted by: Core2
At 3300 I think I had a score of 5763 and our SLI man scored 8100 so I don't know if thats to bad of a score.
I know this is a Nvidia chipset so maybe it don't like your ATI card and gave you a bad score lol
I don't how your 1950 compares with our 7900gs so I maybe wrong

John have you tried oc'ing your 7900gs yet. they are cheap little beasts.

Yes, I diid the same as you Newegg openbox 139.00 619/824
Bought 2

those are a hard deal to beat at that price. (overclock like mad) bought mine to hold m over until dx10 becomes more reasonable. beats the snot outta my old 6800gt.

supposedly the bfg can unlock the pipes.
 

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Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
well to contribute something i found that my nb seems to be the limiting factor. as i approach 3.2ghz i have to up my nb to the 1.59 or i get errors in orthos. ive tried it twice and each time the only thing i changed was the nb voltage from the 1.3 setting to the 1.59 and it makes the difference.

i have my vcore at 1.35 and it usually shows between 1.31 and 1.33 in asus probe so i may kick it up one more notch but i doubt it. in fact i may lower it since i dont even know if i need it that high.

i have been touching my NB heatsing, the HR-05, fanless. and it is definitely warm approaching hot but i can keep my hand there forever without itbeing too hot.

so i think that is ok

Surprised you need so much voltage. I can do 3200 @ NB 1.2 vcore 1.28 - 1.3 but, then again I don't cook it up with orthos. Might want to jump to 425x8 and see if 1.39 will work again. Some people find 400x8 tough
and you know your heatsink is working good if its hot put a fan on it to cool it down
 

idiotekniQues

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hmmmm. ill try some more variations. i would prefer not to keep the NB this high, though since i can keep my hand on the heatsink i figured it was ok.

ill give it a go a bit higher. someone said that changin his pci-e to 101 from 100 made a difference lol

motherboards are strange creatures.

try orthos and see if it holds at 400x8 at those voltages
 

adder1971

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i always have my NB at 1.3v i only had to change it to 1.5v when i went past 485fsb. not sure what my cut off is for 1.2v. never tried :)
 

Core2

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try orthos and see if it holds at 400x8 at those voltages
No thanks, that more stress that I would put on my computer in a year.
If it doesn't crash while I type its good enough for me lol
also I running 5-4-4-12 2T that could be the difference
 

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i want to have it pretty darn stable as i am going to game and also use it for a lot of multitasking and working on cs2 while say encoding a dvd and browsing the web and yada yada.

im gonna mess around with my oc until i have it fast but with the nb at the 1.39. with my hr-05 i would behappy at that voltage. it will keep it nice and cool. the front fan in my p180 is on and it delivers a real nice airflow since i ahve no hard drives in the middle cage.
 

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Originally posted by: idiotekniQues
i want to have it pretty darn stable as i am going to game and also use it for a lot of multitasking and working on cs2 while say encoding a dvd and browsing the web and yada yada.

im gonna mess around with my oc until i have it fast but with the nb at the 1.39. with my hr-05 i would behappy at that voltage. it will keep it nice and cool. the front fan in my p180 is on and it delivers a real nice airflow since i ahve no hard drives in the middle cage.

If you have a side vent on your case you can do what I did. Fasten a 120mm fan on the outside and power it with an AC/DC converter. Just watch your toes when you stretch
 

idiotekniQues

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p180 doesnt have that, it still has great airflow though. i lowered my oc to 3.12 and my NB to 1.3v and my timings to 1T and it runs orthos just fine for the last 10 minutes. my cpu never goes over 45. ill let it run an hour and see. maybe ill try faster another day, let the arctic silver make love to my chips for a couple days lol