The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[Core2]

adder1971
Maybe you could help him out on some settings. That Xeon you have is pretty much the same chip, right? Sorry, thougth it was the 3060

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Core2
adder1971
Maybe you could help him out on some settings. That Xeon you have is pretty much the same chip, right? Sorry, thougth it was the 3060

I'll help with what i know.

To be stable at 500mhz fsb I do have to use 1.5v for the NB. Less than that and I cant even get into windows. Also my Vcore can be lowered and I can do some lengthy Orthos runs without issue. However when I try to do a 3dmark05 run I get random lockups.

I'm in the process of keeping everything the same but just changing my FSB to see if there are any weak points. No reason it shouldnt be able to run at lower core speeds since it is perfectly stable here.

Regarding the 2 different core voltages I too have to believe that is a bug. I did notice I have one core that needs a little bit more voltage as it would consistently be the one to fail orthos, prime, and super pi while the other one kept chugging along. A couple more upticks in core voltage took care of this issue.

All my mem timings are manually set at least for the top 5 values. 4-4-3-8 2T (which is manufacturer recommended) with the info I have read so far with mem problems I wanted to give myself the best chance at an overclock by running it at an unlinked 800mhz and said timings.

Also does anyone know of a prog that monitors mem voltages? If I manually set it to 2.2 volts as specified by manufacturer it seems to be less stable than leaving it to auto. Just curios what the board is setting it to.

 

[Core2]

Also does anyone know of a prog that monitors mem voltages? If I manually set it to 2.2 volts as specified by manufacturer it seems to be less stable than leaving it to auto. Just curios what the board is setting it to.

Correction: Speedfan will if you click on the info tab and then click Read Info it displays ram info with voltage. Right now I have my ram set at 1.92 and it showing 1.8 in speedfan. That means a .12 vdimm droop???? What do you guys get. Checking for accuracy. Great if it works

 

[Core2]

I wish Memset, nTune and ClockGen would work with this board we'd be all set

 

[Core2]

adder1971
What slots do you have your mem in ? Putting your ram in the black slots only have been working out better for overclocking.

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Core2
I wish Memset, nTune and ClockGen would work with this board we'd be all set

Yeah no doubt, the PcProbe II that comes with it doens even work. Errors out and then when I get into the prog there are no voltages displayed.

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Core2
adder1971
What slots do you have your mem in ? Putting your ram in the black slots only have been working out better for overclocking.

I have mine in the yellow ones. I have read elsewhere that the black ones seem to work better for people having issues. Checking my mem voltages as we speak.

 

[JonDoms]

Yea my memory is in the black slots.
I have the memory set to 2.2 and it also reads 2.2v
Beta Speedfan I believe or else my system would be giving me fits.
My TJ07 provides lots of air flow. I can put my blower right over the NB and SB area witht he case open and still can't pass Orthos.
And when I set my voltages to 1.36 or 1.38 or 1.39 Speedfan and CPUZ reads 1.4 +!
Soo it leaves me to believe I need a new Bios that would strap down the vCore.
Also I might need better cooling as under load Core 0 reads 60c in Speedfan.

Ohh and 4-4-4-12-2T vs 5-5-5-15-2T makes no difference as far as stability goes.
As long as the bus is locked to 800 unlinked I think it can run 4-4-4-12-2T fine.

 

[tersome]

Clockgen is out for this board.

http://www.cpuid.com/beta/ClockGen.zip

 

[JonDoms]

L33T on ClockGen!

L33T on being 15 min Orthos stable!

So after upping my volts to 1.42 in bios and reads 1.36 in Speedfan and CPU-Z under load. Not under load Speedfan reads 1.46 and CPU-Z reads 1.175.
Temps are outrageous. CPU-0 & CPU-1 reads 66C and Temp 1 as 53C under load. Not under load it reads 43 45 for Core 0 & 1 respectively and 40 for Temp 1.

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: JonDoms
L33T on ClockGen!

L33T on being 15 min Orthos stable!

So after upping my volts to 1.42 in bios and reads 1.36 in Speedfan and CPU-Z under load. Not under load Speedfan reads 1.46 and CPU-Z reads 1.175.
Temps are outrageous. CPU-0 & CPU-1 reads 66C and Temp 1 as 53C under load. Not under load it reads 43 45 for Core 0 & 1 respectively and 40 for Temp 1.

Nice!!! Those temps seem a bit high but your freq is higher than mine so maybe that explains it. My Vcore is 1.525 in bios but 1.42 under load. Your temps are lower than mine by 10C at idle but about the same at load.

 

[Sinuous]

Originally posted by: jkcheng122
future pci add-on considerations such as Killer NIC (i play wow, and this thing has been proven to make significant improvements in mmorpg so i am considering getting it).

Sorry to drag you off-topic, but.................according to who; the company that makes 'em? Everything I have seen says the Killer NIC is a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Can you provide a link from a third party source?

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: tersome
Clockgen is out for this board.

http://www.cpuid.com/beta/ClockGen.zip

Thanks, for the link. I have been using this version and you can clock up from 266 to about 355 is OK in the 400 - 500 range it is a no go except down. I think there is a lot of memory holes in 400 - 500 range

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: JonDoms
L33T on ClockGen!

L33T on being 15 min Orthos stable!

So after upping my volts to 1.42 in bios and reads 1.36 in Speedfan and CPU-Z under load. Not under load Speedfan reads 1.46 and CPU-Z reads 1.175.
Temps are outrageous. CPU-0 & CPU-1 reads 66C and Temp 1 as 53C under load. Not under load it reads 43 45 for Core 0 & 1 respectively and 40 for Temp 1.

Run some 3Dmarks 06 and Super PI scores and than drop your multiplier down to 8 increase the FSB to 424 and set it Linked and sync mode and run those bench marks again. adder1971 you too, except you have to up your multiplier to 8 . I bet the scores will be close only picking up a few points on the cpu tests super pi should be the same or better. It will also allow you guys to drop your voltages a bit and run cooler. I can run all day at 3400 with cpu temps around 36 - 38 and cores the same at idle 40 - 44 load
and vcore 1.3 - 1.325 vdimm 2.08 NB 1.39. Is it worht that extra MHz ????

Another thing 425 was easier for me than 400 when I first started, thats where the new strap begins I guess. What are you both using for Heatsinks on the cpu ?

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: Sinuous

Originally posted by: jkcheng122
future pci add-on considerations such as Killer NIC (i play wow, and this thing has been proven to make significant improvements in mmorpg so i am considering getting it).

Sorry to drag you off-topic, but.................according to who; the company that makes 'em? Everything I have seen says the Killer NIC is a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Can you provide a link from a third party source?

Save your money and have a T1 line brought to your house if you want play online games, with no lag. Some cable companies like mine, Cablevision, offer a faster internet connection they call it boost which runs a lot faster than the normal connection people have. Of what I read that card is a over priced Gigabyte Nic card that most new system builds come standard with. Some come with duel

 

[adder1971]

Originally posted by: Core2

Originally posted by: JonDoms
L33T on ClockGen!

L33T on being 15 min Orthos stable!

So after upping my volts to 1.42 in bios and reads 1.36 in Speedfan and CPU-Z under load. Not under load Speedfan reads 1.46 and CPU-Z reads 1.175.
Temps are outrageous. CPU-0 & CPU-1 reads 66C and Temp 1 as 53C under load. Not under load it reads 43 45 for Core 0 & 1 respectively and 40 for Temp 1.

Run some 3Dmarks 06 and Super PI scores and than drop your multiplier down to 8 increase the FSB to 424 and set it Linked and sync mode and run those bench marks again. adder1971 you too, except you have to up your multiplier to 8 . I bet the scores will be close only picking up a few points on the cpu tests super pi should be the same or better. It will also allow you guys to drop your voltages a bit and run cooler

Will do, I'd like to see if I can get 437x8 (3.5) to work as well. Might allow me to lower my NB voltage to 1.39 and maybe even let me lower my Vcore a bit. Every bit helps. I was trying to last night but got sucked into the OSU debacle.

BTW do I have to do something special to get Speedfan to show me vDimm? I tried what you said but didnt see it displaying any voltage for that. Have to admit I have 0% experience with that particular prog.

 

[jkcheng122]

Originally posted by: Sinuous

Originally posted by: jkcheng122
future pci add-on considerations such as Killer NIC (i play wow, and this thing has been proven to make significant improvements in mmorpg so i am considering getting it).

Sorry to drag you off-topic, but.................according to who; the company that makes 'em? Everything I have seen says the Killer NIC is a bunch of smoke and mirrors. Can you provide a link from a third party source?

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=338&type=expert&pid=8

 

[Core2]

Will do, I'd like to see if I can get 437x8 (3.5) to work as well. Might allow me to lower my NB voltage to 1.39 and maybe even let me lower my Vcore a bit. Every bit helps. I was trying to last night but got sucked into the OSU debacle.

BTW do I have to do something special to get Speedfan to show me vDimm? I tried what you said but didnt see it displaying any voltage for that. Have to admit I have 0% experience with that particular prog.

There seems to be a lot of mem holes between 400 - 500 I know 400, 412, 424 best, 425, 462.5 work. Try FSB numbers like 1600, 1650, 1700, 1750 1800, 1850, first. If you find any others post them so we can fill the gaps and also check for memory performance loss or gain so we can figure out where the memory straps start and stop.

Did you setup speedfan to my settings on page 13, 4th post from the top. If you did click on configure on the speedfan main page goto options tab set your preferences and try un-checking the SMBus where it says let speedfan access senors through, and see if that helps. As I explained in my setup post it may vary with different people. You have to experiment with it Its a good program when setup correctly. Check out the Events tab there you can set alerts if say your Voltage drops to low or a temperature is to high or a fans rpm is to low. Let me know if you need help for I have played with this for a while now.

 

[Core2]

A good program to adjust your multiplier on the fly in windows is CrystalCPUID only the multiplier function in Intel Enhanced SpeedStep works for me. The real time clock is niece too. Also the CrystalMark 2004R2 is good for some quick benchmarks

 

[JonDoms]

The KillerNic is garbage!
$250 for a NIC!!! comeon. I paid $100 for a 3COM NIC when NICS where really expensive 10 years ago.

Nothing this NIC will do for you if you have a crappy Internet service or Cable Internet.
The NIC doesn't reprioritize your packets over other people's when the packet hits it's 1st hop on the Internet (or your ISP side). On cable systems it's even worst! Everyone is on a shared medium so your cablemodem is being saturated with useless junk.

The only thing this Nic does is prioritize packets coming out of your XP machine and maybe reduce TCP processing. Big whoop. Any duel core can handle that.
You are better off spending your money on a DLINK gaming router.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: JonDoms
The KillerNic is garbage!
$250 for a NIC!!! comeon. I paid $100 for a 3COM NIC when NICS where really expensive 10 years ago.

Nothing this NIC will do for you if you have a crappy Internet service or Cable Internet.
The NIC doesn't reprioritize your packets over other people's when the packet hits it's 1st hop on the Internet (or your ISP side). On cable systems it's even worst! Everyone is on a shared medium so your cablemodem is being saturated with useless junk.

The only thing this Nic does is prioritize packets coming out of your XP machine and maybe reduce TCP processing. Big whoop. Any duel core can handle that.
You are better off spending your money on a DLINK gaming router.

Do you have that router? I was thinking of upgrading mine. I have always liked Dlink

 

[JonDoms]

Yes I have the DLINK Gaming router and when I had DSL it was fantastic. I had a 10 person LAN and even with torrents on our gaming was not disrupted. (BF2 all connected to the same server).

Now I have cable and although it prioritizes my packets going out, once it hits the cable side I see a major slowdown.

Sorry to drag this offtopic.
Anyways do you think with the Artic Freezer Pro there is enough clearance to add the Thermalright NB heatsink? Or even the Blue Zalman one?
I have a 9700 and it fits in the mobo area fine but it will not allow for an aftermarket cooler.
I'll run some more superpi tests at 3.6ghz 400 x 9 and load up 3dmark06 with my 8800GTX and 7950GX2.

 

[idiotekniQues]

i would think if the stock NB heatsink allows you to fit your card in there, the thermalright hr-05 will definitely, since its footprint is much smaller, it just goes vertical instead.

 

[Core2]

Originally posted by: JonDoms
Yes I have the DLINK Gaming router and when I had DSL it was fantastic. I had a 10 person LAN and even with torrents on our gaming was not disrupted. (BF2 all connected to the same server).

Now I have cable and although it prioritizes my packets going out, once it hits the cable side I see a major slowdown.

Sorry to drag this offtopic.
Anyways do you think with the Artic Freezer Pro there is enough clearance to add the Thermalright NB heatsink? Or even the Blue Zalman one?
I have a 9700 and it fits in the mobo area fine but it will not allow for an aftermarket cooler.
I'll run some more superpi tests at 3.6ghz 400 x 9 and load up 3dmark06 with my 8800GTX and 7950GX2.

I get about 3000 kbps out my old router now how much improvement would I see with the Dlink. I am also on a cable modern but, I share it with my wife and two kids. I would not change the NB heatsink it seems to work fine when there is ample airflow on it. I would put one on the SB. I have temperature sensors on both and have been monitoring them. The NB with good air flow runs 100f stock - 117f at 3400 without airflow 120f - 150f The SB wth the sink on it runs a cool 80f - 90f now. The sensors I bought are cheap and work great. The link for them are a few pages back and might be worth it if your going to overclock much. I am the person who was posting to you over at the Asus Forum. Welcome aboard.
John

 

[adder1971]

I'm starting my test run. all mem settings are in sig. will post mem BW and super pi every 50mhz starting at 1600fsb

Will also try to figure out what fsb I need to change from 1.39 NB to 1.56

starting at 1500 will use 7 and 8 multi when possible up to 3.5ghz

mem unlinked at 800mhz 4-4-3-8 2T auto voltage all other timings auto