The Unofficial ASUS P5N-E SLI 650i Board Thread

[Acharash]

Basically when the BIOS starts up, it tests the connections from the various computer components, and provides what's termed a POST. If the POST is successful, then you know at least your system will start with that configuration, whereas if it doesn't start, you can troubleshoot it from the BIOS.

 

[JustaGeek]

POST - Power-On Self-Test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-on_self-test

Don't mean to criticize, you guys are doing a great job...

 

[vot]

Thought I would add left Orthos going for 16 hours straign and it doesnt go above 51C now also its been stable for 16 hours this is the best results with overclocking so far.

Also I have used speedfan, cpuzid, Asus Probe, and Everest Ultimate Edition as well as the bios to check temps so I am pretty sure I got that one down solid.

THanks for the responses if you find out what auto volt thing your talking about let me know...

Ill post anything significant i figure out in the future..

 

[Acharash]

C1E - Intel?s so-called enhanced halt state. Read Anandtech?s blurb about it here for more. Disable initially, enable later on and see if the system remains stable. This is a power savings option.
SpeedStep - Automatically lowers the multiplier from its max. (9x for the Q6600) to 6x when the machine is idle. The result is less power consumption and heat production. It goes back up to 9x when you start to get a CPU load. Disable initially, enable later on and see if the system remains stable. This is a power savings option.

Those are the two I was talking about...

 

[vot]

That's one of the first things I disabled.. I plan on keeping it disabled...

thanks for replying anyway..

 

[Tuvoc]

Originally posted by: trigun500
I'm going to build my system tomorrow; I'm a noob at changing the volt settings for the 4 gigs of ram. Can someone give me a run down of what to do or expect? Thanks a lot

If it is PC6400 RAM - fit just 2 sticks initially, and then when it boots up at default which is 800, set it back down to 667. Turn it off, fit the extra 2 sticks and power up again. If you fit 4 sticks of PC6400 RAM from the outset the board probably won't boot - as mine did not.

 

[Acharash]

Depends on what sort of RAM - my ram can take up to 2.2v before it goes out of warranty, but you need to bump up the NB volt as well to keep the bandwidth...

 

[Endersun]

Tuvoc, can you tell me more about your ram, like what model, ect

also a general question, how fast does your memory have to be clocked to run at 1600 FSB overclocked?

1066?

 

[Tuvoc]

Originally posted by: Endersun
Tuvoc, can you tell me more about your ram, like what model, ect

also a general question, how fast does your memory have to be clocked to run at 1600 FSB overclocked?

1066?

It is this stuff
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/...t.php?prodid=MY-058-GL

Although back in Jan 07 when I built the machine it was more than twice that cost :shocked:
It seems to be pretty decent RAM

I have not tried higher than 1333 FSB, but I have tried memory speeds as high as 950 (at reduced 5-5-5-15 timings) and that ran fine. With 4 sticks you just have to avoid the 723 - 838 memory speed range approx as the machine won't boot in that "hole". Caused me great frustration when I built the machine, put sticks in, the BIOS at auto sets the mem at 800, and hey presto, brand new build doesn't boot. I eventually figured out what was happening, and then someone else here reported that this 4 x 1GB memory hole was confirmed by one of the OCZ tech support guys on their forums. I wonder if the same hole exists with 2 x 2GB sticks - that would be interesting

 

[Endersun]

Good info... My memory has the same specs of yours but isnt the same model. It has orange heat speaders and specs are 4-4-4-12, 1.9 - 2.3V

Hopefully with this info when I decide to upgrade ram I can go for 4x1GB sticks instead of settling for just another gig with 2x512MB sticks.

after I've had it for awhile I may try overclocking.

I wonder though how much faster 950(5-5-5-15) is over 800(4-4-4-12).

Also I have more questions....

First off whats with the search option for this topic? I search something and it will find my keywords within the first 5 posts and thats all I can dig up with the search topic.

I just installed the GeiL memory in my sig today, I can definetly tell the improvement from having 2Gb of memory as opposed to 1Gb, especially being on vista.

But.. I had my system freeze up on me once earlier, then it happened again like an hour and a half later, totally seemed RAM related.

So I run memtest, and do not get any errors, but it freezes, i reboot, it freezes again ect, so obviously my memory is causing this instability.

I just took my voltage off auto and set it to (v2.085) and im currently running my 2 instances of memtest.

But I want to make sure its tweaked perfectly, I have everest and CPU-Z but neither seem to tell me the voltage my memory is running at, although CPU-Z will tell the timings, which is nice.

Is there a program that will tell me what voltage my memory is at? Im especially curious at what my auto was setting the voltage to, so I have something to base my future settings off of.

Is the only con to running a higher voltage, added heat?

My computer is kept pretty cool, although everest says my mobo=16C, and my CPU 13C... while my bios has it grayed out but says 49C.

I believe everest because I'm kept in a cool room with a highly ventilated case my antec 900, which I'm sure a lot of you have seen.

I want to get the lowest voltage that will run my ram 100% stable is basically what I'm probing at.

Also, Im using BIOS 0608 - Is it worth upgrading? I mean I have all the options I need to configure my ram, and im not overclocking for at least months down the road, should I flash my BIOS anyways? what advantage will I get from it?

Anyways knowledge is power, and I want it! any help is appreciated.

Grr, editing way to much sorry!

I just read the latest BIOS summary, which is sadly 2 lines, and it says it fixes razor copperhead hangs, and I've read this before, I just though the BIOS I had before
had the fix in it. SO since im using this mouse I cant rule out this was the cause of my problem... Gonna flash my BIOS now

 

[Tuvoc]

Originally posted by: Endersun
Good info... My memory has the same specs of yours but isnt the same model. It has orange heat speaders and specs are 4-4-4-12, 1.9 - 2.3V

Hopefully with this info when I decide to upgrade ram I can go for 4x1GB sticks instead of settling for just another gig with 2x512MB sticks.

after I've had it for awhile I may try overclocking.

I wonder though how much faster 950(5-5-5-15) is over 800(4-4-4-12).

Mine also have orange heat spreaders and specs of 4-4-4-12, 1.9 - 2.3V (although 2.1v is printed on them). I suspect they are the same

950(5-5-5-15) is no faster than 711(4-4-4-12) in the tests I ran.

 

[trigun500]

Well I just got my system together;
Asus P5N-E SLi nForce 650
2 Gigs of RAM (soon to be 4)
Q6600
8800GT
Vista Ultimate

The system is nice but my 'vista score' is only 4.6; my one friend has a much lesser system and has a 4.9. What gives?

 

[Acharash]

What is your friend's system?

 

[AMelbye]

I have a couple questions:

Have anyone tried the new bios yet?

Has anyone tried the vDroop mods? I've seen a few different ones. is there one that's better than the others? can anyone vertify that a specific one actually does what it's meant to, rather than just screwing up the readings? how much will such a mod benefit towards stability, overclockability and cpu life expectancy?

 

[Tuvoc]

I saw a post on OCUK forums that the new BIOS has fixed the 4 x 1GB memory hole. I haven't tried it myself yet. But also a post that it is bad for overclocking

 

[tvdang7]

any one having the fsb hole still? my e6300 wont do more than 2900 mhz. with what ever voltage and i cant figure out what it is. cant be the ram. i feeding it voltage and many get it running 450+ with same settings. voltage on chip set doesnt do much. so im thinking its the hole or my cpu sucks.

 

[Endersun]

Im using the new BIOS (0801) and so far I'm perfectly stable, had it for about a week, although I'm not overclocking and I dont have 4x1GB sticks to test yet, but ill be using Tuvocs ram setup anyways so I already have access to working settings.....

Also the new BIOS happened to have a fix for the razor copperhead, which I use, so its a given that I get this bios. Love the EzFlash

 

[pepsifx357]

Hey guys, I just picked up one of these and I've had 2 other ASUS MB's before but I can't seem to get this one to boot up with a Windows Disk, whenever it asks me to "Hit Any Key to Boot From Disk" it pops up with one of a few messages that I've never seen before talking about windows NT need at least 512MB of ram OR some "EXception!" message. There's 2 Gigs in the thing, so does anyone know the trick?

 

[pepsifx357]

I just figured it out, It was the crappy CDROM

 

[Acharash]

@pepsifx357
Do you have 2x1Gb sticks or 1x2Gb stick? If you have 2, take out 1 and try booting and installing with just one, then you can upgrade it later, and test whether your stick is f#cked. If it doesn't work with the one stick, try the other. also, make sure when using two sticks, you have each in the same coloured channel on the board. If that doesn't help, what BIOS are you using, and what type of Windows are you using?

 

[Acharash]

fair enough

 

[trigun500]

Originally posted by: Tuvoc

Originally posted by: trigun500
I'm going to build my system tomorrow; I'm a noob at changing the volt settings for the 4 gigs of ram. Can someone give me a run down of what to do or expect? Thanks a lot

If it is PC6400 RAM - fit just 2 sticks initially, and then when it boots up at default which is 800, set it back down to 667. Turn it off, fit the extra 2 sticks and power up again. If you fit 4 sticks of PC6400 RAM from the outset the board probably won't boot - as mine did not.

Ok i got that done; the PC booted up fine.

CPUz got my memory at 4096 Mbs with the frequency at 333.4. Do I up the frequency now that i got it to boot?

Also my Vista score says I only have 3583MB of RAM.

Is there something going on I need to do?

Thanks for helping a nub with 4 gigs of RAM.

 

[Tuvoc]

That's good !

I upped mine to 711, but in reality that will be no different to 667 (333x2) so I'd be inclined to leave it as it is
If you have 32-bit Vista, then you won't see all 4 gig - the figure you quote is about right

 

[Acharash]

Hold on, isn't Vista Ultimate x64 anyway? If so, you may just need to patch it...

 

[Acharash]

What are people's thoughts on Windows XP Professional x64?