the universes first trillionth second

Doggiedog

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I know its way over my head but I don't understand how this is possible. If the speed of light is an absolute limit, how can something expand so quickly so fast to that size?
 

EGGO

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
I know its way over my head but I don't understand how this is possible. If the speed of light is an absolute limit, how can something expand so quickly so fast to that size?

I don't know astrophysics, but I don't think they ever said that it grew to the size it is now in that blink of an eye, it just moved in an astrological size in that amount of time. The universe, currently, is still expanding (I don't know how fast it is, though).
 

Mloot

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Originally posted by: Doggiedog
I know its way over my head but I don't understand how this is possible. If the speed of light is an absolute limit, how can something expand so quickly so fast to that size?

If I understand it correctly, at the beginning of the universe the laws of physics as we know them today didn't really exist.

 

Stojakapimp

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Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me
 
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Originally posted by: Mloot
Originally posted by: Doggiedog
I know its way over my head but I don't understand how this is possible. If the speed of light is an absolute limit, how can something expand so quickly so fast to that size?

If I understand it correctly, at the beginning of the universe the laws of physics as we know them today didn't really exist.

my enormous penis tends to alter the laws of physics sometimes too.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?
 

Stojakapimp

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact

People who pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible aren't Christians. You're a Stojakapimpian, and I wouldn't hold out hope of getting into the Christian heaven if I were you.
 

preslove

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact

People who pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible aren't Christians. You're a Stojakapimpian, and I wouldn't hold out hope of getting into the Christian heaven if I were you.

Every Christian picks and chooses from the bible, jackass.
 

Stojakapimp

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact

People who pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible aren't Christians. You're a Stojakapimpian, and I wouldn't hold out hope of getting into the Christian heaven if I were you.

If you had any sort of background into Orthodoxy then you would know that we don't pick and choose what we want. Why do you think there are thousands of Protestant sects? Because they do exactly that. Orthodoxy is about Tradition, not picking and choosing however you feel that day
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact

People who pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible aren't Christians. You're a Stojakapimpian, and I wouldn't hold out hope of getting into the Christian heaven if I were you.

Every Christian picks and chooses from the bible, jackass.

No. There are plenty of people who pick and choose from the Bible. They aren't Christians though. Christians believe everything in the Bible word for word. People who say otherwise have no idea if their picking and choosing is approved by God, and therefore are not Christians. The only safe route is to take the Bible literally. Otherwise you're not a Christian, you're just whatever.
 

mb

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact

People who pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible aren't Christians. You're a Stojakapimpian, and I wouldn't hold out hope of getting into the Christian heaven if I were you.
Who are you to judge others?
 

Stojakapimp

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact

People who pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible aren't Christians. You're a Stojakapimpian, and I wouldn't hold out hope of getting into the Christian heaven if I were you.

Every Christian picks and chooses from the bible, jackass.

No. There are plenty of people who pick and choose from the Bible. They aren't Christians though. Christians believe everything in the Bible word for word. People who say otherwise have no idea if their picking and choosing is approved by God, and therefore are not Christians. The only safe route is to take the Bible literally. Otherwise you're not a Christian, you're just whatever.

We're taking this thread way off topic so I don't want to debate about it anymore, but I find it so hard to believe that everything in the Bible is literal. I mean there are conflicting stories about creation, so how do you get around that? Just look at the New Testament...it is filled with parables, which are not all true stories, but rather teach about spiritual truths
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
We're taking this thread way off topic so I don't want to debate about it anymore, but I find it so hard to believe that everything in the Bible is literal. I mean there are conflicting stories about creation, so how do you get around that? Just look at the New Testament...it is filled with parables, which are not all true stories, but rather teach about spiritual truths

That combined with my original observation is why I'm not a Christian. It just doesn't make any sense.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact

People who pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible aren't Christians. You're a Stojakapimpian, and I wouldn't hold out hope of getting into the Christian heaven if I were you.

P&N, but you do realize that the bible we have today is only the books that the church wants you to read, and that has been transcribed and translated many times. Additionally, the so called "words of Christ" (the words that were said to be spoken by Christ directly) were not written down until 60 years after his death. It is far from a complete document (as presented today) Personally I don't see why there has to be a rift between Science and Religion. To me it seems perfectly plausible that we have the big bang, but that it was caused by an omnipotent force, after all we have no idea what lead up to the (supposed) big bang. Anyways, back on topic, very interesting stuff OP.
 

mercanucaribe

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact

People who pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible aren't Christians. You're a Stojakapimpian, and I wouldn't hold out hope of getting into the Christian heaven if I were you.

If you had any sort of background into Orthodoxy then you would know that we don't pick and choose what we want. Why do you think there are thousands of Protestant sects? Because they do exactly that. Orthodoxy is about Tradition, not picking and choosing however you feel that day

How do you deal with conflicts between the old testament and the new? Do you believe that God can change his mind?
 

lyssword

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Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: JLGatsby
....But...it's not in the bible??

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth"

btw, I'm not a literalist, so don't try and start a debate with me

In other words you're not a Christian. The Bible is pretty clear on lots of stuff.

I have trouble understanding how all the matter in the universe could be condensed into a microscopic particle. Don't atoms themselves have a certain amount of mass that couldn't be condensed past a certain point?

Of course I'm a Christian. An Orthodox Christian to be exact

People who pick and choose what they want to believe from the Bible aren't Christians. You're a Stojakapimpian, and I wouldn't hold out hope of getting into the Christian heaven if I were you.

If you had any sort of background into Orthodoxy then you would know that we don't pick and choose what we want. Why do you think there are thousands of Protestant sects? Because they do exactly that. Orthodoxy is about Tradition, not picking and choosing however you feel that day

How do you deal with conflicts between the old testament and the new? Do you believe that God can change his mind?

wouldn't be God if he couldn't change his mind. In the old testament there is a story that he didn't like his own creation (beacuse of all lawlessness was going on) and caused the great flood and only 1 family survived. Also funny how kogasse tells who exactly is christian or who isn't yet he is not one.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: lyssword
Also funny how kogasse tells who exactly is christian or who isn't yet he is not one.

I can read the Bible just like a Christian can, and what is written is made just as clear to me as anyone.