I knew you couldn't resist LOL !!!!!! Quit taking thing so serious why do other peoples opinions threaten you so ????
Hey everybody,
This thread has gone into a cesspool of endless bickering, with really no end in site. Intel and AMD both make good products, and both have their share strengths and weaknesses. What platform is more accepted by the industry? INTEL. If you think AMD sucks because you used it in the past and had poor results, good for you. If you think Intel sucks because of their higher prices, good for you. If you want to compare benchmarks, speed, or compatibility, make sure you have both a current INTEL and AMD system to make any legitimate claim -- otherwise you're full of $hit.
This thread has gone into a cesspool of endless bickering, with really no end in site. Intel and AMD both make good products, and both have their share strengths and weaknesses. What platform is more accepted by the industry? INTEL. If you think AMD sucks because you used it in the past and had poor results, good for you. If you think Intel sucks because of their higher prices, good for you. If you want to compare benchmarks, speed, or compatibility, make sure you have both a current INTEL and AMD system to make any legitimate claim -- otherwise you're full of $hit.
WARNING: This thread has descended from composition: toilet scum to composition: dog feces n' urine.
*SykoFreak waits for NOS to throw insults about getting a T-Bird 900 yet he owns an Intel product right now*
*SykoFreak waits for NOS to throw insults about getting a T-Bird 900 yet he owns an Intel product right now*
well, i like this thread, it's gotten quite fun. but AMD i think will take over user level systems, and intel will take over complete server control, see rambus if properly implemented will kick some royal rear (dont know why god spoke to me)
nos440 on that deal listed earlier, im gonna go with a radeon card, just so when i tell people that radeon does kick @$$ i know it for real.
I think for now amd and intel are at evens, and for the next few months amd might pull ahead, especially if it ddr boards hit before december, but once the p4 gets tweaked, intel will whipe the floor, but i expect the p4 to be limited to servers and hi hi power, intel needs another branch for home use in decent price ranges or they will lose the small user market to amd
nos440 on that deal listed earlier, im gonna go with a radeon card, just so when i tell people that radeon does kick @$$ i know it for real.
I think for now amd and intel are at evens, and for the next few months amd might pull ahead, especially if it ddr boards hit before december, but once the p4 gets tweaked, intel will whipe the floor, but i expect the p4 to be limited to servers and hi hi power, intel needs another branch for home use in decent price ranges or they will lose the small user market to amd
Fun I think its getting boring myself only got 3 replies since I signed off last night. Oh well it was fun while it lasted 
LOL
LOLCut the crap, people ! Yet another AMD vs. Intel thread with insightful bashing. I've seen unstable@crappy systems with AMD processor. I've seen even more s**tty computers based on Intel. SO WHAT ? Both companies have made several mistakes. First Pentiums (60@66) were really nothing more than piece of dirt (more than 100 official bugs !), AMD-s K5 was real pain in the a** in most of the situations. Cacheless Celerons performed pathetically even when overclocked, K6-2/300 had some serious compability problems with many motherboards. Again, WHO CARES ? Both T-bird and P3 are good processors without any major bugs. If you want a little bit better gaming performance under Winblows (heavily SSE optimized apps also will run bit faster probably) and willing to pay extra $$$ for Intel-inside sticker, go with P3. For better performace under most of the apps (specially 3D rendering and other FPU-demanding stuff) and cheaper cost, buy T-bird. When using hight quality mobos and other stuff, stability isn't issue (when using something like Win9x, don't blame your hardware when system turns out to be ustable, thought). About myself: I currently use AMD-powered box, cause when using linux there's absolutely no point buying Intel's processor. P3 is slower in Mhz vs Mhz than T-bird when compiling kernel, encoding/decoding MP3, compiling programs with C or JAVA... haven't found any task that would run faster on P3 yet. Yes, I'm fan of AMD, but I don't think that EVERYBODY should be. Intel doesn't suck only because I have seen some unstable&problematic boxes built on it's arhitecture or just because I prefer AMD.
P.S. in workplace I have nice Intel i80286-based machine (look @ my signature) with AMD-s 287 co-processor
P.S. in workplace I have nice Intel i80286-based machine (look @ my signature) with AMD-s 287 co-processor
Well said Priit. I feel the same way the thing is that I am an intel fan not an amd fan so I guess it doesn't really matter either way
isn't it time you got some "hooked on phonics"?
Edit: Sorry couldn't help myself. No more picking on little Mikey.
Edit: Sorry couldn't help myself. No more picking on little Mikey.
Point #1: AMD 760 chipset + AMD Athlon = Intel P3 asswhooping. Read Anand's review. Weep at superiour processor performance.
Point #2: I have a grand total of 5 AMD processor machines. I have NEVER EVER had a single problem with ONE OF THEM. You'd think that after owning 5 Athlon machines (3 of which are running right now, because 2 are upgrade cpus), I'd have a problem.
But I didn't. I have all the "problem components" too. I have a GA-7IX motherboard, pre-superbypass revision, GeForce, 235 watt supply, an overclocked 500@750, and guess what...NO PROBLEMS.
All this stability FUD just shows that you guys have no clue going about building a system. You know what, a P200 MMX has great stability too, I have one of those, and guess what! I never have to install a single freaking driver, because the Windows install recognizes it for the four year old piece of junk that it is.
If you can't handle installing a new driver for new technology, then you deserve to be stuck with the old junk you have. No two ways about it.
System #1: AMD Athlon 700@1030 MHz (Tbird) + Abit KT7RAID
System #2: AMD Athlon 800 (Classic) + Asus K7V-RM
System #3: AMD Athlon 700 (Tbird) + GA-7IX (AMD 750 C3)
Guess what fellas: AMD 760 + 256 MB of DDR2100 memory are on the way. When they're available, I'm picking them up, because thanks to AMD I can afford to upgrade every two months as opposed to the 12 months you intel folks will be waiting. (Did I mention that P4 upgrades are going to put you folks in debtor's prison? It's a good thing you guys upgraded your power supply, LOL)
Oh, did I also mention that I will be able to plug in a Mustang processor to my socket A board when it comes around.
Point #2: I have a grand total of 5 AMD processor machines. I have NEVER EVER had a single problem with ONE OF THEM. You'd think that after owning 5 Athlon machines (3 of which are running right now, because 2 are upgrade cpus), I'd have a problem.
But I didn't. I have all the "problem components" too. I have a GA-7IX motherboard, pre-superbypass revision, GeForce, 235 watt supply, an overclocked 500@750, and guess what...NO PROBLEMS.
All this stability FUD just shows that you guys have no clue going about building a system. You know what, a P200 MMX has great stability too, I have one of those, and guess what! I never have to install a single freaking driver, because the Windows install recognizes it for the four year old piece of junk that it is.
If you can't handle installing a new driver for new technology, then you deserve to be stuck with the old junk you have. No two ways about it.
System #1: AMD Athlon 700@1030 MHz (Tbird) + Abit KT7RAID
System #2: AMD Athlon 800 (Classic) + Asus K7V-RM
System #3: AMD Athlon 700 (Tbird) + GA-7IX (AMD 750 C3)
Guess what fellas: AMD 760 + 256 MB of DDR2100 memory are on the way. When they're available, I'm picking them up, because thanks to AMD I can afford to upgrade every two months as opposed to the 12 months you intel folks will be waiting. (Did I mention that P4 upgrades are going to put you folks in debtor's prison? It's a good thing you guys upgraded your power supply, LOL)
Oh, did I also mention that I will be able to plug in a Mustang processor to my socket A board when it comes around.
Well good for you Redpriest as far as you saying that you did not have one problem with the earliest revision GA-7IX I say you are a lyer! because I had several people look at what was happening to my system and they said "I don't know never seen something like that". I think it is great that you have had success with amd I didn't and don't think that I am going to have success in the future with them. Once again an amd fan flying off the handle saying ddr this and ddr that going to whip intel ya di ya di ya. There is one key word here that allows one computer to whip another do you know what it is???
STABILITY!! and IMHO only one manufacturer has it INTEL
STABILITY!! and IMHO only one manufacturer has it INTEL
Another point that needs to be restated here is that I don't care which manufacturer my hardware comes from as long as it works the way it is supposed to. Right now if you could guarantee me that a t-bird and a kt7(non raid I think) would work great I might buy one. The only thing is that I am so happy with what I have now that there is no reason to change it. Especially when I have my doubts as to how stable this new amd stuff really is. Just my 2 cents and bad experience
Oh BTW there is probably only a 50% chance of plugging in a mustang to your exhisting mobo kind of like the tbird into the classic mobo I don't know this for fact but that is what they stated when the tbirds came out and it is the straw that broke the camels back or NOS's back so to speak. My board would have run the tbird they say but hell it couldn't run my other stuff stable so why bother
I don't know this for fact but that is what they stated when the tbirds came out and it is the straw that broke the camels back or NOS's back so to speak. My board would have run the tbird they say but hell it couldn't run my other stuff stable so why botherFrustrated2: As far as the stablility & scalability matters, all x86 architecture sucks pretty badly
Did it ever cross your mind that you may have received a board that was simply defective? Maybe I got the *only* one out of ALL these motherboards that NEVER suffered stability problems, but I find that idea laughable at best. You should have returned it for another if you felt it had stability problems.
Guess what! I had a Celeron 300A on a BH6 motherboard, the "vaunted" overclocker's dream. Its stability was crap, but did I blame the BX chipset? NO. I got it replaced, and it works fine now.
I invite you to come into my home and try to bluescreen my GA-7IX box.
Guess what! I had a Celeron 300A on a BH6 motherboard, the "vaunted" overclocker's dream. Its stability was crap, but did I blame the BX chipset? NO. I got it replaced, and it works fine now.
I invite you to come into my home and try to bluescreen my GA-7IX box.
Different electrical configurations - and Via stupidity.
Oh by the way, my 700 MHz Slot A tbird works just fine in my GA-7IX motherboard.
Intel and stable = LOL.
Introducing the all new Pentium processor, the processor that can't do division without screwing up the results. Introducing the Intel Pentium III 1.13 GHz processor -- the one that can't even do a linux compile. Introducing the CC820 chipset, that introduces errors thanks to a faulty memory hub. Introducing the i850 chipset (wait a minute, delay that, we gotta wait a month to fix it due to bugs).
Every company screws up, and Intel is no better or worse.
Oh by the way, my 700 MHz Slot A tbird works just fine in my GA-7IX motherboard.
Intel and stable = LOL.
Introducing the all new Pentium processor, the processor that can't do division without screwing up the results. Introducing the Intel Pentium III 1.13 GHz processor -- the one that can't even do a linux compile. Introducing the CC820 chipset, that introduces errors thanks to a faulty memory hub. Introducing the i850 chipset (wait a minute, delay that, we gotta wait a month to fix it due to bugs).
Every company screws up, and Intel is no better or worse.
NOS: Not.
It's well known that when a Pentium III is placed on a Via motherboard, the Athlon stomps all over it.
Pentium III on Via gets walked all over
It's well known that when a Pentium III is placed on a Via motherboard, the Athlon stomps all over it.
Pentium III on Via gets walked all over
Maybe it was the mobo I still have the entire setup. Maybe one of you AMD geniuses would like to try getting it to run right?? Its just a dust collector now Also the only thing I see the 200mhz faster tbird walking on the p3 in is specview, and mflops synthetic stuff not real world stuff like games. Which is what most of us use are computers for isn't it??
Also the only thing I see the 200mhz faster tbird walking on the p3 in is specview, and mflops synthetic stuff not real world stuff like games. Which is what most of us use are computers for isn't it??<<not real world stuff like games. Which is what most of us use are computers for isn't it?? >>
maybe for you kids....
My computers are nonstop DivX encoders,and FTP servers.
Other then that they whup some Seti butt.
maybe for you kids....
My computers are nonstop DivX encoders,and FTP servers.
Other then that they whup some Seti butt.
Well I am not a kid at 29. But maybe most was the wrong word to use alot of people with high end computers use them for games. Sorry if I affended anyone
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