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The Truth About Ethanol And E85

(Stay with me, its the first time using my new scanner, and its a beat up magazine).


I read this article and found it very interesting, and it brought me up to date on something very important going on now in the car industry that effects us all. So I thought I would share it with you guys, because ATOT is always good for an informative discussion, and for those of you like me who only knew a little bit about the subject.


Ethanol Promises
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Enjoy 😀
 
Originally posted by: dartworth
OT...what scanner?

The HP OfficeJet 5610v All In One. I got it cheap from Staples I believe on sale. I think I still have to play around with the settings a bit.
 
I think I read this the other day also... and also heard that the cost of producing ethanol is just as high as using gas...
 
Originally posted by: GrammatonJP
I think I read this the other day also... and also heard that the cost of producing ethanol is just as high as using gas...

That depends on what study you look at. 😉
 
Originally posted by: GrammatonJP
I think I read this the other day also... and also heard that the cost of producing ethanol is just as high as using gas...

yet the fact that its renewable and can provide more power with same mileage under a turbo as gas without...

Ethanol is coming whether you might like it not. It certainly doesn't look like it will be a permanent solution (what with Hydro on the way), but it is going to be an alternative.
 
Originally posted by: F22 Raptor
Originally posted by: GrammatonJP
I think I read this the other day also... and also heard that the cost of producing ethanol is just as high as using gas...

That depends on what study you look at. 😉

And the crop you use. Ethanol from corn costs too much, especially in light of some roadside weeds that can be used to make E85 without the high upkeep cost. BTW, the US has extremely high import duties on ethanol for fuel, to protect the domestic corn-based ethanol business.

Or so I heard.
 
Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Ethanol is coming whether you might like it not. It certainly doesn't look like it will be a permanent solution (what with Hydro on the way), but it is going to be an alternative.

Did you read the article? Using the current mandate signed by Bush, ethanol will only replace .7% of the oil used in US each year. If you factor in the oil burned to produce ethanol that number drops .18% That's going to go a long way towards reducing our "dependence" on foreign oil...It's typical government BS that billions of our tax dollars are subsidizing.

Don't

 
maybe .18% today, but much more in the future as we develop more technology to burn ethanol better and produce more ethanol from our domestic crops
 
its going to take ethanol biodiesel and technology to eliminate fossil fuels
The shift will be evolutionary with some painfull yrs in the mean time.

It will happen cause there isn't an economically viable alternative to oil other than ethanol/biodiesel.
 
Originally posted by: desy
its going to take ethanol biodiesel and technology to eliminate fossil fuels
The shift will be evolutionary with some painfull yrs in the mean time.

It will happen cause there isn't an economically viable alternative to oil other than ethanol/biodiesel.

You farm corn?
 
As posted above you don't need corn, and when I talk ethanol I mean all sources including cellulosic
 
Meh... last month i caught Larry King doing a interview with the CEO of Conoco. all the CEO would say is that E85 is the wrong way to go and not good for the future.... :disgust:

:Q suprising that a CEO of one of the biggest oil companies would be against E85
 
I was listening to a podcast of Science Friday yesterday about ethenol and cars. We as americans can do more to save oil than most of these mandates put together. Go check the air pressure in your tires (big waste of gas if they are not properly inflated). Buy a car with better gas mileage and use public transportation! Anyone here see Who Killed The Electric Car??? They said with current tech, an all electric car can go 100 miles on a charge. Electric cars are more reliable than combustion cars because they have very few moving parts and needs no service (except changing batteries when they reach their lifespan).
 
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