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The sexualization of our kids

I was absolutely appalled when I saw this story on CNN this morning. This guy needs to be hung and quartered. And we wonder why our teens are so sexually active and dress like strippers. As my own opinion I am also appaled when I shop at Target, WalMart, or wherever and see shorts for kids with words like "juicy" on the butt. Absolutely sick.

'Have sex, do drugs,' speaker tells students (Men with men, women and women)
WorldNetDaily ^ | 5/22/07 | Bob Unruh

A guest speaker at an assembly at Boulder High School in Colorado has told students as young as 14 to go have sex and use drugs, prompting school officials to say they will investigate.

The instructions came from Joel Becker, an associate clinical professor of psychology at the University of California at Los Angeles.

"I am going to encourage you to have sex and encourage you to use drugs appropriately," Becker said during his appearance at the school as part of a recent panel sponsored by the University of Colorado's Conference on World Affairs.

"Why I am going to take that position is because you are going to do it anyway," he continued. "I think as a psychologist and health educator, it is more important to educate you in a direction that you might actually stick to. So, I am going to stay mostly on with the sex side because that is the area I know more about. I want to encourage you to all have healthy, sexual behavior."

WND also has reported on similar assemblies that have been used by schools to promote homosexuality, including one where parents were banned from the event, and a second where WND reported school officials ordered their 14-year-old freshman class into a "gay" indoctrination seminar after having them sign a confidentiality agreement promising not to tell their parents.

The Boulder school review promise came from board members who were confronted by Boulder High sophomore Daphne White and her mother, Priscilla White, with their complaint about the event.

Priscilla White told board members it's inappropriate for such a message to be delivered by a public school. She was reading excerpts of the presentation to the board when board President Helayne Jones told her to stop, because the language was inappropriate.

"The panel discussion was a completely irresponsible and dangerous invitation to Boulder High students to have sex and take drugs," her daughter, Daphne, told the board.

No student should have been forced to be at that panel discussion, incoming Boulder Valley Supt. Chris King agreed.

The panel included Becker; Andree Gerhardt, a community engagement leader with Ernst & Young; Antonio Sacre, an LA-based performing artist, and Sanho Tree, of the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington.

They were assembled for the discussion as part of the university's Conference on World Affairs, which has been described as a forum for anything.

Conference leaders issued a statement, signed by conference director Jim Palmer and others, saying the panel members talked "candidly and sensibly to the high school audience, providing cautionary information about alcohol consumption, drugs, sexual issues and teens."

The sophomore, Daphne, had been required to attend the panel called "STDs: Sex, Teens and Drugs," and accused panel members of presenting one-sided views and discrediting abstinence.

The White family said the conference statement wasn't even accurate.

"The panelists irresponsibly advised Boulder High students to have sex and use drugs," the family responded. "Teenage abstinence was dismissed as an unwise choice and indicative of religious hang-ups."

"It may be true that the Conference on World Affairs generally 'fosters awareness of local, national and global citizenship and celebrates intellectual discussion and excellence.' It did not in this case," the family continued. "As Daphne suggested at the [recent] school board meeting, Boulder High School, the school district and the CWA should host an assembly at Boulder High for the student body. Hopefully the principal, the deputy superintendent, the board president and the director of the CWA would use the opportunity to offer Boulder High students some sound advice that is more consistent with what teens should hear from adults. They need to do it quickly, graduation is June 2."

Fox News' Bill O'Reilly said Boulder already is known as a "far left" town.

He played a recording of an "unidentified male" saying: "We all experiment. It's very natural for young people to experiment with same sex relationships. When you are 13, 12, 13, 14 certainly probably one of the most appropriate sexual behaviors would be masturbation. Even today, there are psychiatrists who will do sessions under the influence of ecstasy. If I had some maybe I'd do it with someone, but you know."

The transcript obtained by WND showed those comments also were from Becker.

Dan Caplis, a lawyer and radio talk-show host on KHOW Radio, said the principal should have been fired, but wasn't.

"We had the president of the school board on, as well as the head of the school district. And they just kept dodging us. Finally, we pinned them down and we said don't you agree this was harmful, this was dangerous? Finally, they agreed to that," Caplis reported.

"These experts came in to undermine and contradict everything most parents at that school are trying to teach their kids about sex and drugs. And I believe that a lot of those parents are ready to fight back. But we'll find out in the next few days," Caplis said.

One of many sources
 
WND is one of the least credible sources in existence today and Freeper is linking to their story.

"WND also has reported on similar assemblies that have been used by schools to promote homosexuality, including one where parents were banned from the event, and a second where WND reported school officials ordered their 14-year-old freshman class into a "gay" indoctrination seminar after having them sign a confidentiality agreement promising not to tell their parents."

I don't believe this, they might have had some kind of role playing to show the hurt and ostracizing that occurs with many gay students, but they were not promoting anything other than tolerance.

 
Please, this guy is a rarity, certainly not the reason we have so many misbehaving kids. Maybe if parents were raising their kids instead of allowing/relying on the schools to do it the situation would be better.

And it's V for Vendetta.
 
Vatican Warns Against Increasingly Healthy Attitudes Toward Sex
December 6, 2000 | Issue 36?44



VATICAN CITY?Alarmed by rising rates of pleasurable, mutually fulfilling acts of physical love among Catholics, the Vatican issued a statement Monday warning against healthy attitudes toward sex.



Pope John Paul II warns against the dangers of mutually fulfilling acts of love.
"The practice of so-called 'healthy sexuality,' with its emphasis on the spiritual and physical nourishment of consenting partners in a relationship built on mutual respect, has no place in the Holy Roman Catholic Church," the 200-page document read. "Those who have derived pleasure from such non-shame-based practices are not living according to God's law."

The Vatican statement cited 183 different "wholly sinful" sexual acts, including the discrete, occasional manipulation of one's own genitals for pleasure; intercourse positions designed to heighten sensations of ecstasy; and intimate, post-coital cuddling and conversation with a loved one outside the bounds of the marital bed.

The statement also listed 244 phrases which are regarded as blasphemous when uttered in a non-procreative context. Among them: "God, your breasts are beautiful," "I feel so complete when you're inside me," and "I love to watch your belly rise and fall after we make love."

Church officials were quick to praise the Vatican's denouncement of "the brutal transgression against God that is the enjoyment of sex for its own sake."

"In recent years, Catholics the world over have been exposed to a multitude of sexual practices that, if not resisted, could enrich their lives and deepen their enjoyment of their partners," said Cardinal Joaquin Navarro Valls, speaking on behalf of the pope. "As Catholics, we must remain vigilant, doing everything in our powers to resist such urges. Only the Lord's divine redemption can transform sex into a force for goodness by limiting it to the joyless context of married couples who wish to procreate."

A Catholic couple sins.
"The position of the Church is absolute: If two people who are not a married couple endeavoring to have children engage in tension-relieving, life-affirming sex, they are committing a grave sin," Archbishop Edward Egan of New York said. "There is nothing holy about people feeling good about their bodies and themselves."

Catholics are taking the condemnation of modern sexual mores to heart.

"In the seven years we've been married, my wife and I have probably had sex about 1,500 times," said Lowell, MA, resident Bill Metz, 36. "We're extremely attracted to each other, and satisfying each other physically is something we've always enjoyed. Until now, that is. I finally see that what we thought was a fun way to celebrate our love was really an expression of hostility and disrespect toward Jesus."

Metz added that he and his wife plan to have at least 15 children as penance for their physical indulgences.

"This is a major step forward for the church," said Father Thomas Mallory, Deacon of Boston's Our Lady Queen of Peace. "We've seen too much healthy sexuality among Catholics in recent years, which inevitably led to an unholy sense of well-being and contentment. Hopefully, this papal condemnation will put a stop to that."

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Whether he is a joke or not, this meeting happened. It's been ackowledged by the kids and the school board. Disagree or not, he DID have this closed door session, and he DID present these kids with his POV. How would high school kids know to disregard what he said? His message really isnt that far out there. Watched prime time TV lately? This is what our kids are being saturated with.
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Whether he is a joke or not, this meeting happened. It's been ackowledged by the kids and the school board. Disagree or not, he DID have this closed door session, and he DID present these kids with his POV. How would high school kids know to disregard what he said? His message really isnt that far out there. Watched prime time TV lately? This is what our kids are being saturated with.

One example = saturated. Nice leap in logic :thumbsup:

If you don't like what is on TV, don't let your kids watch it. What happened to parenting? I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility.
 
4 generations ago people were starting to work full time at 13 and popped out baby's at 16. "childhood" didn't exist until until the 20th century.
 
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Whether he is a joke or not, this meeting happened. It's been ackowledged by the kids and the school board. Disagree or not, he DID have this closed door session, and he DID present these kids with his POV. How would high school kids know to disregard what he said? His message really isnt that far out there. Watched prime time TV lately? This is what our kids are being saturated with.

One example = saturated. Nice leap in logic :thumbsup:

If you don't like what is on TV, don't let your kids watch it. What happened to parenting? I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility.

I agree 100%..not sure where I said otherwise...

As far as saturation, it's not a leap at all. If you cant see the blatent sexualization in teen magazines, clothing, TV, top 10 radio songs...youre just blind.
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
4 generations ago people were starting to work full time at 13 and popped out baby's at 16. "childhood" didn't exist until until the 20th century.

and we have a winner
 
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
4 generations ago people were starting to work full time at 13 and popped out baby's at 16. "childhood" didn't exist until until the 20th century.
Our raging hormones still exist, which is why a majority of teens have sex.

Leave it to blackangst1 to push abstinence on us.
 
pretty sick stuff. However, as sexual promiscuity is preached on every form of media as you mentioned, it is natural that people would just start preaching it from a literal podium after a while. This is how stuff is and it is not going to change.. except for the worse. I am curious to see if more events are going to take place
 
blackangst, I don't think you understand why people aren't taking you seriously. You took a news report from World Net Daily, widely regarded as nothing more than tabloids, as gospel, and then tried to apply it towards whatever kind of point you were making that teenagers are becoming more and more 'sexualized'. Tell me, how could this be, when teen pregnancy has gone DOWN in the last decade? Maybe, just maybe, our kids are getting smarter about sex, leading to much healthier lifestyles? Maybe all your worrying is because you are out of touch, much like your parents were out of touch with your childhood.

Here's a nice link regarding teen pregnancy: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/2006/09/12/USTPstats.pdf
 
Quoting propaganda from World Net Daily makes YOU one of the most dangerous, hateful, deceitful, misled people on the earth.
Fortunately I know you were merely misled into thinking it was a legitimate news source.
After all it was "on the internet" so it MUST be true.
:disgust:
 
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: blackangst1
Whether he is a joke or not, this meeting happened. It's been ackowledged by the kids and the school board. Disagree or not, he DID have this closed door session, and he DID present these kids with his POV. How would high school kids know to disregard what he said? His message really isnt that far out there. Watched prime time TV lately? This is what our kids are being saturated with.

One example = saturated. Nice leap in logic :thumbsup:

If you don't like what is on TV, don't let your kids watch it. What happened to parenting? I thought conservatives were all about personal responsibility.

I agree 100%..not sure where I said otherwise...

As far as saturation, it's not a leap at all. If you cant see the blatent sexualization in teen magazines, clothing, TV, top 10 radio songs...youre just blind.

You're talking about kids being saturated with crap on tv, the radio, etc. Do your job as a parent to steer them away from that stuff. That's your responsibility as a parent.
 
Isn't teen sex lower than it has been previously? I recall reading that teens are waiting on sex and instead doing less risky sexual activities like oral and the like.
 
I?m actually wishing we didn?t treat natural human behavior as something perverse. The physiological damage caused by a prevention of that which is natural is quite damning. More so, I believe, than allowing nature to take its course.
 
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
Isn't teen sex lower than it has been previously? I recall reading that teens are waiting on sex and instead doing less risky sexual activities like oral and the like.
Oral sex = sex.
Vaginal intercourse = sex.
Anal intercourse = sex.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
I?m actually wishing we didn?t treat natural human behavior as something perverse. The physiological damage caused by a prevention of that which is natural is quiet damning. More so, I believe, than allowing nature to take its course.

That's why parents should educate their kids sex and to be smart about their relationships. Hiding kids from the truth doesn't work.
 
Man you guys are dense. If this story was an editorial I agree its a suspect source; however, it's not. Just because you might not like the source that posted the news story doesnt make it false.

Here...how about reading it from the city's newspaper: http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_5904322

School district rethinks policies on CU panels
Complaints were made after a Conference on World Affairs panel at Boulder High last month on teen sex and drug use.
By John Ingold Denver Post Staff Writer
Article Last Updated: 05/16/2007 01:43:32 AM MDT


Boulder - School officials here are re-evaluating their policies for allowing panels from the University of Colorado's Conference on World Affairs to be held at Boulder High School, after a parent and a student complained that a panel about teen sex and drug use was too graphic and permissive in tone.

The controversy stems from an April panel called "STDs: Sex, Teens and Drugs." The discussion was dotted with frank talk and provocative comments about sex and drugs.

"I'm going to encourage you to have sex, and I'm going to encourage you to use drugs appropriately," panelist Joel Becker, a Los Angeles clinical psychologist, told the students. "And why I am going to take that position is because you're going to do it anyway."

But the panelists also encouraged the students to be responsible, to be educated and to make good choices.

"This is about thinking about the choices you're making today and how they're going to affect you over the long haul," said Andee Gerhardt, a community-engagement leader with Ernst and Young.

Board president halts excerpts

Boulder High sophomore Daphne White and her mother, Priscilla, complained to the Boulder Valley school board last week about the panel, saying that the high school should not host events that tell students it is OK to use drugs and have sex.

"The panel discussion was a completely irresponsible and dangerous invitation to Boulder High students to have sex and take drugs," Daphne told the board.

At one point, school board president Helayne Jones told Priscilla White to stop reading excerpts from the panel discussion because the language was inappropriate for the meeting.

"But it was at Boulder High School," Priscilla White responded. "If they can listen to it, I think you can listen to it."

Board members agreed some of the language was inappropriate and asked officials to investigate.

School district spokesman Briggs Gamblin said that as a result of the controversy, Boulder High will no longer require students to attend the panel discussions and will more carefully vet the panels. As of now, Gamblin said, the high school intends to continue hosting the panel discussions every spring.

"We think the overall message was one of being positive and healthy in your choices and taking personal responsibility for not making choices until you are ready to make them," Gamblin said.

"Responsibility ... to be candid"

Conference on World Affairs director Jim Palmer said Boulder High students and a representative from the school choose the topics each year and help choose the panelists.

He said none of the panelists told the students they should or shouldn't use drugs or have sex. Rather, he said, the panelists told students to make decisions that are appropriate for them and to know the consequences.

"When you're talking to high school students about these issues," Palmer said, "I think there is a responsibility on the part of adults to be informed and to be candid."
 
Funny how there's no 'gay indoctrination' talk in there, just one prissy student and her mother complaining that they even used the terms 'sex' and 'drugs' without applying severely negative connotations to either of them. The panelist was actually being more responsible than your abstinence-only heroes, by telling students to make responsible and safe choices, instead of making them fear even talking about sex and drugs.

Big difference. Your point is still missing.
 
Originally posted by: Aisengard
Funny how there's no 'gay indoctrination' talk in there, just one prissy student and her mother complaining that they even used the terms 'sex' and 'drugs' without applying severely negative connotations to either of them. The panelist was actually being more responsible than your abstinence-only heroes, by telling students to make responsible and safe choices, instead of making them fear even talking about sex and drugs.

Big difference. Your point is still missing.

Speaking of big differences...theres a big difference between having an open discussion and ENCOURAGING. Maybe they are the same to you *shrug*
 
Originally posted by: jman19
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
I?m actually wishing we didn?t treat natural human behavior as something perverse. The physiological damage caused by a prevention of that which is natural is quiet damning. More so, I believe, than allowing nature to take its course.

That's why parents should educate their kids sex and to be smart about their relationships. Hiding kids from the truth doesn't work.

I think the myth on this thread is in the opening lines as the OP seeks to blame liberals when its really the larger society and ignorance that is to blame. To that extent jhman19 is right on in his post---sex cannot be suppressed but our entire society is far to uptight about sex. And the more we deny and sensationalize the myths of sex, the more we encourage it to the point of a national hysteria on both sides. When there is a social war in this country regarding sex and taboos, its stupid to think we can hide it under a bushel basket from anyone including children.

And in terms of provactive dress, thats usually a disease of the more politically conservative is my personal observation.
 
WND reported school officials ordered their 14-year-old freshman class into a "gay" indoctrination seminar after having them sign a confidentiality agreement promising not to tell their parents.

😀 :laugh: WND cracks me up. Too funny.
 
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