The science of coal

1sikbITCH

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In today's installment of Make America Stupid Again, the Energy Secretary of the United States explains the benefits of coal over clean energy:

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...fossil-fuels-will-help-prevent-sexual-assault

Energy Secretary Rick Perry suggested Thursday that expanding the use of fossil fuels could help prevent sexual assault.

Speaking during an energy policy discussion about energy policy with “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd and Axios CEO and founder Jim VandeHei, Perry discussed his recent trip to Africa. He said a young girl told him that energy is important to her because she often reads by the light of a fire with toxic fumes.

"But also from the standpoint of sexual assault,” Perry said. “When the lights are on, when you have light that shines, the righteousness, if you will on those types of acts.”

This is true because in the 1800s and early 1900s we used only fossil fuels and nobody got raped.
 

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In today's installment of Make America Stupid Again, the Energy Secretary of the United States explains the benefits of coal over clean energy:

http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...fossil-fuels-will-help-prevent-sexual-assault

Energy Secretary Rick Perry suggested Thursday that expanding the use of fossil fuels could help prevent sexual assault.

Speaking during an energy policy discussion about energy policy with “Meet the Press” host Chuck Todd and Axios CEO and founder Jim VandeHei, Perry discussed his recent trip to Africa. He said a young girl told him that energy is important to her because she often reads by the light of a fire with toxic fumes.

"But also from the standpoint of sexual assault,” Perry said. “When the lights are on, when you have light that shines, the righteousness, if you will on those types of acts.”

This is true because in the 1800s and early 1900s we used only fossil fuels and nobody got raped.


I would have said that this was an Onion piece but not anymore. Sad and bad!
 

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The reason for coal in 3rd world nations is to minimize their reliance on energy from nations like Russia. Once they have every independence their economy will be more stable, a more stable economy allows for a stronger/growing middle class. Eventually if everything goes right the country can then look into alternative energy sources such as solar. Right now countries need stability.
 

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The reason for coal in 3rd world nations is to minimize their reliance on energy from nations like Russia. Once they have every independence their economy will be more stable, a more stable economy allows for a stronger/growing middle class. Eventually if everything goes right the country can then look into alternative energy sources such as solar. Right now countries need stability.

That would require central power generation and construction of a grid. Better to go solar right off as it would likely be cheaper than coal and everything that goes with it.
 
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ivwshane

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That would require central power generation and construction of a grid. Better to go solar right off as it would likely be cheaper than coal and everything that goes with it.

Both would require a grid, one would require more resources to purchase foreign materials whereas the other would be resources from within the country.

Small installations would definitely benefit from solar but I'm speaking more of a national system.
 

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I can see coal as a more viable form of energy in remote villages. They don't have a grid, let alone the battery arrays, so you'd see a star configuration where you have the central power plant and the village laid out around it. It would produce power at night when they need it most for lighting, and is a more simple way to do things like heat water, opposed to solar array + grid + batteries + electric heater.

It has the cheaper cost of entry, where there is no money. It would be nice if their government decided to run power but until then what are they to do? Move elsewhere? I've always thought that was the better idea.

Granted politicians think in terms of their lavish lifestyle in the US, not about what each individual home could do to be self sufficient just to run some light bulbs or charge up a cell phone, but there's nothing about offering our coal exports that stops them from choosing that path instead.
 

Paratus

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Both would require a grid, one would require more resources to purchase foreign materials whereas the other would be resources from within the country.

Small installations would definitely benefit from solar but I'm speaking more of a national system.

I can see coal as a more viable form of energy in remote villages. They don't have a grid, let alone the battery arrays, so you'd see a star configuration where you have the central power plant and the village laid out around it. It would produce power at night when they need it most for lighting, and is a more simple way to do things like heat water, opposed to solar array + grid + batteries + electric heater.

It has the cheaper cost of entry, where there is no money. It would be nice if their government decided to run power but until then what are they to do? Move elsewhere? I've always thought that was the better idea.

Granted politicians think in terms of their lavish lifestyle in the US, not about what each individual home could do to be self sufficient just to run some light bulbs or charge up a cell phone, but there's nothing about offering our coal exports that stops them from choosing that path instead.

While I’m sure there are towns that it might be possible to bring a power plant to, many of the areas we are talking about are subsistence level farming villages.

There are no paved roads to these villages for construction vehicles to travel over to build an expensive power plant. There are no rail lines to send shipments of coal to the power plant if you did build one. In Uganda 80% of people are off grid for example.

A population of subsistence farmers is never going to afford 10-50 miles of new roads and infrastructure just to be able build the grid and plant in their village.

Currently much of the rural population of Africa spends a huge portion of their meager income on kerosene and lamps. What’s replacing the expensive and dangerous kerosene are solar lamps and other small solar appliances.

https://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/12/solar-lights-eradicating-kerosene-lamps-africa/

Trying to build 1st world electrical infrastructure where they still have dirt floors is jumping the gun by a couple of decades.
 
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Meghan54

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Who wrote that tripe? A 7th grader?

This is an example of one of this article's sentences:
"Because of key coal-producing nation South Africa."

That makes no sense whatsoever. It's a "sentence" that begins with a conjunction, creating a dependent clause being "written" as a complete sentence. And the "article" is chock full of this poor attempt at 5th grade level writing.

Then again, this reflects upon the "article's" point, which has already been pointed out.
 
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UNCjigga

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I can see coal as a more viable form of energy in remote villages. They don't have a grid, let alone the battery arrays, so you'd see a star configuration where you have the central power plant and the village laid out around it. It would produce power at night when they need it most for lighting, and is a more simple way to do things like heat water, opposed to solar array + grid + batteries + electric heater.
Remote villages seem to be doing fine with cow dung patties. It's the original biofuel.
 
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Why would you need a paved road to bring in construction vehicles? Has anyone ever see the millions of miles of pipelines and power lines and towers that never used a paved road?
 

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Why would you need a paved road to bring in construction vehicles? Has anyone ever see the millions of miles of pipelines and power lines and towers that never used a paved road?

See what I am saying? They even think paved roads and construction vehicles are bad. Haha wtf is next on the list, indoor plumbing?
 

Thebobo

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Rick Perry is as dumb as a lump of coal

Tweedle and dee

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