The roots of Obama's rage

[Modelworks]

Reading the book after a friend emailed me about it and if half this stuff is true it makes a lot of sense. It is basically about what shaped Obama from his childhood and goes into a lot of detail on his experiences with his father . A father effects every child even if the adult child doesn't want to admit it and I honestly wasn't too interested in his father until I started reading the book.

It reads a bit like something from Fox news but it still has some interesting points that are worth reading if you get the chance. It isn't all bad and details a bit more about his early life vs the more politicized parts of his life.

http://www.amazon.com/Roots-Obamas-R...6494877&sr=1-1

We are today living out the script for America and the world that was dreamt up not by Obama but by Obama’s father. How do I know this? Because Obama says so himself. Reflect for a moment on the title of his book: it’s not Dreams of My Father but rather Dreams from My Father. In other words, Obama is not writing a book about his father’s dreams; he is writing a book about the dreams that he got from his father.
Think about what this means. The most powerful country in the world is being governed according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s—a polygamist who abandoned his wives, drank himself into stupors, and bounced around on two iron legs (after his real legs had to be amputated because of a car crash caused by his drunk driving). This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anti-colonial ambitions, is now setting the nation’s agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son. The son is the one who is making it happen, but the son is, as he candidly admits, only living out his father’s dream. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is being governed by a ghost. .

 

[IronWing]

I hadn't noticed Obama was in a rage. Just the opposite really, more comatose than enraged.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

I think that Obama is well intentioned, but the means to his ends aren't acceptable to many people, me being one.

 

[irishScott]

I think that Obama is well intentioned, but the means to his ends aren't acceptable to many people, me being one.

This, and I even disagree with some of his ends.

 

[theeedude]

What ends do you disagree with? More Americans insured?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What ends do you disagree with? More Americans insured?

Cheeseburgers causing accidents.

 

[Bateluer]

What ends do you disagree with? More Americans insured?

Americans being forced to purchase something they may not want, something that only affects them if they chose not to buy it. More Americans being stuck on Government welfare programs. More American businesses being nationalized or infected with labor unions. Those ends.

 

[GroundedSailor]

Dinesh D'Souza is a hard core right wing author of Indian origin.

He uses that fact (of his Indian origin) to claim he understands how Obama's psychology is rooted in colonialism which he got from his father (being a Kenyan and therefore from a one time colony of UK) and therefore Obama is filled with some sort of inherited rage.

Conveniently forgetting that Obama didn't get to know his father till he was a teenager. That Obama didn't grow up in Kenya. That Obama was brought up by his mother and later by his grandparents and it is the latter who had an influence on him. He hardly knew his father.

This book is a crock of shit.

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[theeedude]

Americans being forced to purchase something they may not want, something that only affects them if they chose not to buy it. More Americans being stuck on Government welfare programs. More American businesses being nationalized or infected with labor unions. Those ends.

Simply not true, if you choose not to buy health insurance and then are unable to pay your bills, it effects others who are required to pay for your treatment in the ER.

 

[Craig234]

Yes, the author of this book is a terrible, dishonest right-wing propagandist who has lost any right to be listened to IMO.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yes, the author of this book is a terrible, dishonest right-wing propagandist who has lost any right to be listened to IMO.

It reminds me of what Jerry Springer once offered wrt the popularity of his show-

"Crap Sells."

And , uhh, nobody is forced to take welfare, bateleur, and people who don't want to buy health insurance still want medical care, even when it's more than they can afford, effectively forcing the rest of us to foot the bills.

Unions? Heh. Unions are as American as Mom and apple pie, despite ravings from self-styled libertarian delusionists.

 

[UberNeuman]

I hadn't noticed Obama was in a rage. Just the opposite really, more comatose than enraged.

That was my thought as well; Obama has as much rage as a loaf of Wonder Bread ....

 

[Bateluer]

And , uhh, nobody is forced to take welfare, bateleur, and people who don't want to buy health insurance still want medical care, even when it's more than they can afford, effectively forcing the rest of us to foot the bills.

Unions? Heh. Unions are as American as Mom and apple pie, despite ravings from self-styled libertarian delusionists.

Wasn't what I said, I said more Americans on welfare. That is exactly what Democrats and Liberals want, more people dependent on the government to support them.

I disagree with your comments on medical care. Its not just they are being forced to buy medical insurance, its also that they are being forced to buy insurance that some one else believe suits them better. Its akin to you shopping for car insurance and being forced to buy a State Farm plan because the MVD says its the best policy for you.

On Unions, I wouldn't consider them as American as apple pie. They are responsible for serious budget crises in most state & local governments, as well as the downfall of the American automakers. Unions had a time and place, that place is no longer necessary. Take the UAW, for example, instead of spending the union dues on union members, they're busy building luxury golf courses, taking resort trips for the top brass, and demanding more money from a corporation that ended up going bankrupt. The UAW is part of the reason why GM, Ford, and Chrysler opened plants in Mexico and Brazil.

Edit - I should clarify that I don't think Obama is in a rage. I believe he wants to remake the USA into something else, something that more and more citizens are realizing they don't want.

 

[hal2kilo]

Look in the mirror and you will see the roots of the imagined rage of Obama staring right back at you.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

That was my thought as well; Obama has as much rage as a loaf of Wonder Bread ....

He got whipped up into a real talk once.

He seems more like the Dems party piece.

 

[ProfJohn]

Conveniently forgetting that Obama didn't get to know his father till he was a teenager. That Obama didn't grow up in Kenya. ..

Why did he write a book called "Dreams from my father" then??


And you have to wonder about the psychology of a guy who grew up in an upper middle class family in Hawaii, went to Columbia and then Harvard and then found himself being elected president of the country, but yet goes around apologizing to the world about this country.

You would think that a guy with a mixed racial background who was raised by a single mom and who was able to rise the highest office in the country would be going around the world tell them how amazing this country is because of HIS achievement.

 

[UberNeuman]

He got whipped up into a real talk once.

He seems more like the Dems party piece.

Well, it's a nice bookend to St. Reagan....

 

[werepossum]

It's an interesting book and everything seems to fit, except for one thing: Obama has been pretty aggressive in the fight against Islamic terrorism. By all rights he should see the USA as the invading white colonial power and the Taliban as the poor aggrieved victim bravely striking back against Western colonial evil, yet he's been as aggressive as Bush in prosecuting the Afghanistan war, perhaps more so. That makes me think that his supposed anti-colonial philosophy is nothing more than run of the mill anti-American progressiveness - or perhaps just the sheer incompetence of an arrogant beginner.

Assuming the Pubbies take Congress, we'll know more. It will be interesting to see if Obama finds any value in an America where his rule has been rejected, knocked back down to the usual presidential cat-herding. If not, D'Souza is probably right. If Obama moves to the center and governs rather than rules, then D'Souza is almost certainly wrong.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Well, it's a nice bookend to St. Reagan....

This is true.

 

[IronWing]

If Obama moves to the center ...

If Obama moves to the center won't that piss off the Repubs as so far he's been governing from the right? Obama's kind of like Zaphod Beeblebrox. Once he became President of the Galaxy he can no longer remember why.

 

[Craig234]

Why did he write a book called "Dreams from my father" then??


And you have to wonder about the psychology of a guy who grew up in an upper middle class family in Hawaii, went to Columbia and then Harvard and then found himself being elected president of the country, but yet goes around apologizing to the world about this country.

You would think that a guy with a mixed racial background who was raised by a single mom and who was able to rise the highest office in the country would be going around the world tell them how amazing this country is because of HIS achievement.

You're clueless.

Apologizing for things this country does wrong is both a moral requirement, and not mutually exclusive with saying how great the country is.

It's idiots who think that the country is better off refusing to apologize when it does something wrong, if not continuing the wrong for no reason but to not admit it.

 

[Jhhnn]

On Unions, I wouldn't consider them as American as apple pie. They are responsible for serious budget crises in most state & local governments, as well as the downfall of the American automakers.

Hardly. Management still runs things, in case you hadn't noticed, and they allowed unions their demands to feather their own nests at the time. If state pensions are too high, it's because the non-union guys at the top fluffed up their own pensions, with the union benefits merely being a corollary to that. If GM pensions are extravagant, it's because management offered such in lieu of wage increases at the time, to keep union members working, profit margins high, and to assure their own bonuses and golden parachute retirements. When state officials sell out the people, and company execs sell out the stockholders, that's no reason to blame unions.

 

[Craig234]

Wasn't what I said, I said more Americans on welfare. That is exactly what Democrats and Liberals want, more people dependent on the government to support them.

95% of attacks on the left here are wrong or lies, and I can't remember the other 5%.

 

[MooseNSquirrel]

Americans being forced to purchase something they may not want, something that only affects them if they chose not to buy it. More Americans being stuck on Government welfare programs. More American businesses being nationalized or infected with labor unions. Those ends.

For second there I thought you were talking about our Defense spending, but then I woke up.

 

[umbrella39]

Wasn't what I said, I said more Americans on welfare. That is exactly what Democrats and Liberals want, more people dependent on the government to support them.

Grow up.