The ridiculousness of background checks.

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notfred

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While we're on the subject: I once paid a traffic ticket by mail, and the payment didn't get to the police station until several days after it was due. They sent back my payment, and sent the sherrif to my apartment, saying he had a warrant to arrest me for failure to appear. I ended up paying about $250, and that settled the whole thing, with the deputay taking my check and not arresting me.

Anyone have any idea if that FTA might ever come back to haunt me in some way? I assume I plead guilty to it by paying the $250 fine.
 
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crownjules

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Originally posted by: GroundZero
Originally posted by: amdforever2
The application says I am not required to list sealed records. It does not ask me to list arrests.


Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty b*tch?



I wasn't proven guilty, that means innocent, that means no criminal past.
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I think that in this case it just means not prossecuted asshat...
big difference between innocent and not prosecuted...

I still want to know why you were arrested and proccessed for burglary?
Still more to this than you are letting on about.
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Wrong. A company can not request arrest information unless the person under consideration has a conviction on their record. A "rap sheet" or list of arrests (conviction or not), while public information, is not a source employers can use. You may reference Privacy Rights for this information.

OP is being wronged here. If the applicant does not have any convictions on his/her record, there is nothing the company should be investigating.

EDIT: The matter of what OP did or didn't do is completely irrelevant since there is no conviction on his record. You people are a bunch of nosy bastards.
 
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amdforever2

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An arrest record is different from a criminal background check.

Anyways, me and the company rep conference called the local court who confirmed no charges ever went forward.

Company rep is still "deciding" or something....
 
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MisterJackson

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Sh1t, I almost didn't get a job because of a credit report that employer ran on me. I had some outstanding medical debt that I was in litigation over (car accident, me passenger, other car at fault) and as soon as it settled those debts would be paid.

Anyhow, the head of H.R. for this company, a real hardass who liked to use the words fvck and sh1t a LOT, called me in and said "Do you care to explain to me why you did not divulge this sooner.". I looked him dead in the eye and said "Because frankly I don't think it's any of your business. For starters I didn't give you permission to run a credit report on me and I question the legality of that, so I'll consult my attorney." then I did explain why it was on my credit report just so I didn't look like a deadbeat (at this point I figured there's no way I'm getting the job because I gave him severe attitude).

He looked at me and said "I like your style, you're hired.". Every time I saw him after that he reffered to me as that gutsy son of a b1tch in front of everyone. So of course everyone wanted to know what happened. I didn't tell them anything, so some cool stories about "what happened" started floating around. Everyone hated this guy, again being the hardass he is, so I was immediately liked for pissing him off.

weird how that stuff works.

BTW, who'd ya rob OP?
 
ElFenix

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: GroundZero
Originally posted by: amdforever2
I will not be screwed. I will fight them to my very last breath!

They could say they are retracting their offer because of some other reason, if they were willing to break the law.

Unfortunately for them their offer letter indicates they will only retract if:

I fail drug test
I do not pass criminal background


Passing criminal background means no CONVICTIONS.
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THEY SEEM TO BE IN THE RIGHT SO FAR, AS YOU PROBABLY TOLD THEM YOU HAD NO CRIMINAL PAST, AND THEN THEY CHECK AND THIS IS ON YOUR RECORD.
THAT IS GROUNDS FOR NOT HIRING YOU RIGHT THERE FOR LYING ON YOUR RESUME.
IF YOU CAN PROVE NO CONVICTION, THEN THEY WILL PROBABLY HIRE YOU. ALTHOUGH I WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT OFFERING A FVCKING THIEF, CONVICTION OR NOT...
WHAT DID YOU STEAL/BREAK INTO? DID SOMEONE JUST NOT PRESS CHARGES? WHY WERE YOU ARRESTED FOR THIS TO START WITH IF YOU ARE SO FREAKING INNOCENT?

SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS A WHOLE LOT MORE TO YOUR STORY THAN YOU ARE LETTING ON...
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you're an idiot. cops arrest a lot of people and release them. innocent until proven guilty.
 
ch33zw1z

ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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I would take those papers you purchased at the police station and go see the HR rep reviewing your status, explain the situation, and express why you feel it's not a valid reason. In the mean time, find other positions and start applying.
 
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BooGiMaN

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this is definitively a very awkward way to start your employment at a new compnay.

hopefully nothing goes missing while you are there...im sure you will be the prime suspect. :p
 
AreaCode707

AreaCode707

Lifer
Sep 21, 2001
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There's a lot of misinformation here.

Law varies from state to state. Research what your state says. Somewhere other than Wiki.

If the company's background check found something on you (they probably use a background check vendor) it flags you. They have to do all the research they can and they probably need to go get the documents you provided from the source and ensure there are no other documents. Your job, in this, is to do the research yourself so you know what they'll find, and to sit patiently.

On the other hand, I wouldn't hire you because you're overreacting to a glitch in paperwork like you've been personally insulted, and that doesn't indicate a very stable employee.
 
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amdforever2

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The war is over.

I'm hired.

HR was so terrified of my inpenetrable position they also added an eleventy billion dollar signing bonus for treating me so badly.


One of these lines is false......
 
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Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: MisterJackson
Sh1t, I almost didn't get a job because of a credit report that employer ran on me. I had some outstanding medical debt that I was in litigation over (car accident, me passenger, other car at fault) and as soon as it settled those debts would be paid.

Anyhow, the head of H.R. for this company, a real hardass who liked to use the words fvck and sh1t a LOT, called me in and said "Do you care to explain to me why you did not divulge this sooner.". I looked him dead in the eye and said "Because frankly I don't think it's any of your business. For starters I didn't give you permission to run a credit report on me and I question the legality of that, so I'll consult my attorney." then I did explain why it was on my credit report just so I didn't look like a deadbeat (at this point I figured there's no way I'm getting the job because I gave him severe attitude).

He looked at me and said "I like your style, you're hired.". Every time I saw him after that he reffered to me as that gutsy son of a b1tch in front of everyone. So of course everyone wanted to know what happened. I didn't tell them anything, so some cool stories about "what happened" started floating around. Everyone hated this guy, again being the hardass he is, so I was immediately liked for pissing him off.

weird how that stuff works.

BTW, who'd ya rob OP?
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:cool::beer:
 
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BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: amdforever2
The job, btw, is customer service for a bank.
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And that is exactly why they pursued information about a burglary arrest.
 
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BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: Hyudra
pfft, a back ground check for a customer service position? jeezus
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So you would want any schmuck handling your sensitive information? CC #s, DOB, SS#, passwords, Product Orders, etc. All that information would be passed through CS. But I guess you wouldn't mind having a felon convicted of several cases of identity theft handling that information, right?
 
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spidey07

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Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: amdforever2
The job, btw, is customer service for a bank.
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well why didn't you freakin' include that very important bit of info in the OP?

umm...

BANK...

BULGARY....

connect the dots man.
 
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BigJ

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: amdforever2
The job, btw, is customer service for a bank.
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well why didn't you freakin' include that very important bit of info in the OP?

umm...

BANK...

BULGARY....

connect the dots man.
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Because he knew how ridiculous it would make him look?
 
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simms

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Sep 21, 2001
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Originally posted by: amdforever2
The war is over.

I'm hired.

HR was so terrified of my inpenetrable position they also added an eleventy billion dollar signing bonus for treating me so badly.


One of these lines is false......
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WINNAR

 
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amdforever2

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Sep 19, 2002
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BigJ I don't think the fact it's a bank hurts my original argument at all.

I agree had I actually committed the crime it would make sense for a bank not to hire burglars.


For corporate america to refuse to hire people that are never convicted, while they move gentleman like Kenneth Lay into CEO positions, makes no sense, however.
 
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