The Republican Party Is Now in Its End Stages

[cytg111]

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is dumb as fuck

 

[dawp]

A perfect encapsulation of what Conservatism is now

https://twitter.com/x/status/1365141354960084994

My evangelical grade school education repeatedly talked about a very simlar scene in Exodus. Those same people are cheering stuff like this on. Apparently they've decided it was a model not a cautionary tale.

beginning of the end, or end of the end, do I need to say more?

I mean seriously, do they not see what is wrong here?

 

[obidamnkenobi]

The Republican party is NOT as divided as people think. The vast majority is just converting to a fascist Trump party, with a much smaller minority not going along. If only the republican party was as divided as some people say, I'd sleep much better at night.

People always saying (gleefully) that the GOP is about to die, any day now.. Bush with his wild spending and (eventually) unpopular war. What happened? They won mayorly many times after that!

Trump also got a record number of latino votes. Somehow doing as we've always feared and getting the generally religious, concentrated in many swing states, largest majority, further onto their side. Imagine what someone with even a slightly less nazi-ish immigration policy could do with that! (and no, not just cubans who see communists in every closet, people from mexico and south america!)

edit: thanks to others for poiting out: Trump got more latino voters in 2020 than in 2016. But lower percent than Bush in 2004.

 

[K1052]

People always saying (gleefully) that the GOP is about to die, any day now.. Bush with his wild spending and (eventually) unpopular war. What happened? They won mayorly many times after that!

Trump also got a record number of latino votes. Somehow doing as we've always feared and getting the generally religious, concentrated in many swing states, largest majority, further onto their side. Imagine what someone with even a slightly less nazi-ish immigration policy could do with that! (and no, not just cubans who see communists in every closet, people from mexico and south america!)

Trump won 33% of the latino vote in 2020, a full 7 points shy of what GWB got in 2004. Not exactly what I'd call an incredible performance overall.

 

[shortylickens]

Trump won 33% of the latino vote in 2020, a full 7 points shy of what GWB got in 2004. Not exactly what I'd call an incredible performance overall.

its fantastic considering how he treated them.
Obviously propaganda works much better than actually helping people.

 

[SMOGZINN]

I'm just not entirely convinced the Republicans can maintain their coalition when the interests of the different parts of it seem to be diverging.

They only really disagree about minor points like economics, domestic policy, foreign policy, and racism. The major issue they all completely agree on, they hate Democrats.
If another party came along that was a more centrist version of the GOP it would split their vote leading to Democrats winning by landslides, and that would be enough to reunify the GOP. It would probably lead the extremists in the party to have even more power in the party as it became clear event to the holdout that they either got on board the crazy train or lose to Democrats.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

Trump won 33% of the latino vote in 2020, a full 7 points shy of what GWB got in 2004. Not exactly what I'd call an incredible performance overall.

I think this is the article I was thinking of

Donald Trump Increases His Share of Black, Latino Voters: Exit Poll

The president has boosted his share of the Black vote by 4 points since the 2016 election.

www.newsweek.com

Trump increased his minority numbers from 2016. (which at least to me is a big WTF?) I thought I read he did better than other republicans too though?

Your right, at least in inital polls GW got 44% of latino votes, vs trump's 32%

Donald Trump Increases His Share of Black, Latino Voters: Exit Poll

The president has boosted his share of the Black vote by 4 points since the 2016 election.

www.newsweek.com

So that's good I guess?? But still a worryingly high number IMO.

 

[hal2kilo]

Their strategy for reelection baffles me. First, make loser who also caused the loss of the Senate your only possible choice for 2024. Next, completely ignore what your constituency wants or needs (COVID Relief bill).

Sticking it to the libs is not a strategy.

Nobody is fooled. The Republicans have no intention of "working with" Biden on a relief bill. As Salon's Jon Skolnik reported, they've even brought in former Vice President Mike Pence this week to instruct them on how they successfully obstructed President Obama's agenda. They plan to win in 2022 by making the country fail. It's their go-to strategy.

Debunked: Republicans are not beholden to GOP voters | Salon.com

 

[Muse]

Who are the good people?
Who are evil?

Right now just about one half of America thinks the other half is evil.
And you know what's really fuckin funny?
THAT HALF thinks the OTHER HALF is evil!!!

"Evil" is an ambiguous word, extremely. You it's a value judgement, an opinion. There are better words to deal in. I try not to use that word, it just leads to trouble. Unconscionable is a better word. Other words:

Deceptive
Ill-intentioned

Well, there's dozens of synonyms and many far more useful than "evil":

EVIL Synonyms: 159 Synonyms & Antonyms for EVIL | Thesaurus.com

Find 159 ways to say EVIL, along with antonyms, related words, and example sentences at Thesaurus.com, the world's most trusted free thesaurus.

www.thesaurus.com

 

[pmv]

They represent everyone that would rather starve in the streets than vote for a filthy Democrat.

I don't feel that really clarifies anything! To be honest, it seems a rather circular answer.

They only really disagree about minor points like economics, domestic policy, foreign policy, and racism. The major issue they all completely agree on, they hate Democrats.
If another party came along that was a more centrist version of the GOP it would split their vote leading to Democrats winning by landslides, and that would be enough to reunify the GOP. It would probably lead the extremists in the party to have even more power in the party as it became clear event to the holdout that they either got on board the crazy train or lose to Democrats.

I don't agree that they disagree about racism. They seem to run the gamut from being strongly in favour of it, to not really caring about it at all. They clearly do disagree about economics and foreign-policy, though. Most of all, where the two intersect, i.e. trade and movement of labour.

 

[K1052]

its fantastic considering how he treated them.
Obviously propaganda works much better than actually helping people.

When Trump talks about wanting to shoot and torture Mexicans that's probably a major selling point for the Cuban/Venezuelan vote in South Florida. Immigrant groups can be mobilized against each other especially in the latino demo where there are a lot of differences.

They only really disagree about minor points like economics, domestic policy, foreign policy, and racism. The major issue they all completely agree on, they hate Democrats.
If another party came along that was a more centrist version of the GOP it would split their vote leading to Democrats winning by landslides, and that would be enough to reunify the GOP.

The party only exists to eliminate taxes on the wealthy and own the libs at any cost. It is basically all culture war all the time. There is nothing else in there. Not a shock that educated people are lurching away from it now.

 

[Muse]

Pretty much the GOP is now transitioning into a proto-fascistic cult based around a 'charismatic' ultra-nationalistic, xenophobic, jingoistic, pathologically lying leader similar to what happened in Italy and Germany in the 1920's and 30's

One thing I'm grateful for and that's the fact that DJTrump is an overweight obese ~75 year old with bad habits and shit for brains. Castles made of sand soon fall back into the sea. May the GOP fall with him.

 

[obidamnkenobi]

Their strategy for reelection baffles me. First, make loser who also caused the loss of the Senate your only possible choice for 2024. Next, completely ignore what your constituency wants or needs (COVID Relief bill).

Sticking it to the libs is not a strategy.

Nobody is fooled. The Republicans have no intention of "working with" Biden on a relief bill. As Salon's Jon Skolnik reported, they've even brought in former Vice President Mike Pence this week to instruct them on how they successfully obstructed President Obama's agenda. They plan to win in 2022 by making the country fail. It's their go-to strategy.

Debunked: Republicans are not beholden to GOP voters | Salon.com

Isn't it? Seemed to me it works pretty well. For 8 years of obama GOP had no interest in doing anything that helped anyone, it was just about obstructing anything Obama did. No matter what it was. Based on this they won the senate several times, a majority of governorships, and eventually the presidency. And if I were to take a guess they'll win quite a bit in 2022 as well.

 

[VRAMdemon]

In the land of the blind the one eyed man is dumb as fuck

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Lol .... many of these CPAQ people are Christian, so you’d think they’d recognize the reference in Exodus 32. Trumps always been a false idol of gold.

They’re doing their best to fulfill the prophecies of the last book in the New Testament, including the bit about falling for the Antichrist.

To be fair, sacrificing your soul to Hell so Jesus can save the libs must be pretty inspiring to the Qons. Perhaps whoever created the golden idol was pranking CPAQ.

 

[gothuevos]

So which is it?

Half of you say the GOP is split, dead, buried, etc.

The other half think they're going to make a major resurgence and sweep 2022 and 2024.

Personally, I don't think they are as split as some of you would hope. And the amount of voters that Trump captured in 2020 was no fluke. And of course all the institutional advantages they have. I think the only saving grace is that if/when Trump wins again in 2024, he is limited to only one term and we saw how mostly ineffective he was. I don't think the GOP has a plan beyond that, anyway.

 

[UNCjigga]

So THAT’S where Covid came from...

 

[hal2kilo]

Lol .... many of these CPAQ people are Christian, so you’d think they’d recognize the reference in Exodus 32. Trumps always been a false idol of gold.

They’re doing their best to fulfill the prophecies of the last book in the New Testament, including the bit about falling for the Antichrist.

To be fair, sacrificing your soul to Hell so Jesus can save the libs must be pretty inspiring to the Qons. Perhaps whoever created the golden idol was pranking CPAQ.

Those people would throw Jesus in jail if they met him today.

 

[VRAMdemon]

"Trumpie was a rolling stone
Wherever he laid his hat was his home
And when he died
All he left us was a loan"
…
"I heard some talk about Papa doing some store front preaching
Talking about saving souls and all the time leeching
Dealing in debt and stealing in the name of the Lord
Lord, lead me to The Temptations "…

 

[SMOGZINN]

Their strategy for reelection baffles me. First, make loser who also caused the loss of the Senate your only possible choice for 2024. Next, completely ignore what your constituency wants or needs (COVID Relief bill).

Sticking it to the libs is not a strategy.

Their strategy is pretty simple and effective.

Step1: Sell out America to the Mega Rich and Mega Corporations.
Step2: Get massive amounts of money from Step1.
Step3: Spend that money convincing Americans that you didn't do Step1, and the Democrats are to blame for the consequences of Step1.
Step4: Win.

So far it has worked well enough to get Americans to try to overthrow their own democracy.

 

[K1052]

The other half think they're going to make a major resurgence and sweep 2022 and 2024.

Way too early for any sort of predictions.

 

[hal2kilo]

Their strategy is pretty simple and effective.

Step1: Sell out America to the Mega Rich and Mega Corporations.
Step2: Get massive amounts of money from Step1.
Step3: Spend that money convincing Americans that you didn't do Step1, and the Democrats are to blame for the consequences of Step1.
Step4: Win.

So far it has worked well enough to get Americans to try to overthrow their own democracy.

Yet, somehow the Trump, what ever the F you want to call it movement, is supposedly a populists movement. Even the liberal press keeps calling it that. (Of course they've been part of the problem all along, not really liberal).

 

[cytg111]

So THAT’S where Covid came from...

Trumpicans brought covid down from the heavens.

THOSE BASTARDS!

So.

Rapture?

 

[dank69]

I don't feel that really clarifies anything! To be honest, it seems a rather circular answer.

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It is just the way it is. Americans are subjected to this conditioning from birth. "Democrats want to tax you to death!" is just reflexive now. "Common sense." Republicans will never be adequately punished for their behavior. GOP politicians could literally go door to door with flamethrowers, burning down every one of their voter's houses, and those voters will still reliably show up to vote them back into office.

 

[woolfe9998]

People always saying (gleefully) that the GOP is about to die, any day now.. Bush with his wild spending and (eventually) unpopular war. What happened? They won mayorly many times after that!

Trump also got a record number of latino votes. Somehow doing as we've always feared and getting the generally religious, concentrated in many swing states, largest majority, further onto their side. Imagine what someone with even a slightly less nazi-ish immigration policy could do with that! (and no, not just cubans who see communists in every closet, people from mexico and south america!)

I agree that rumors of the GOP's demise have been greatly exaggerated for a long time.

However, Trump did not get a "record number of latino voters." He got about 32%. George Bush got ~43% in 2004.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Yet, somehow the Trump, what ever the F you want to call it movement, is supposedly a populists movement. Even the liberal press keeps calling it that. (Of course they've been part of the problem all along, not really liberal).

This 'liberal Press' you are talking about are almost completely comprised of large corporations that are almost completely profit motivated. They have definitely noticed that step two involved spending lots and lots of money directly to their industry. They of course are going to compete for it.