The Republican Party Is Now in Its End Stages

[dawp]

one can only hope

The Republican Party Is Now in Its End Stages

The GOP has become, in form if not in content, the Communist Party of the Soviet Union of the late 1970s.

www.theatlantic.com

 

[fleshconsumed]

Don't have time to read now, it didn't end well for Soviet Union, let's hope US can handle it better, if not, it's in for some rough times.

 

[iRONic]

Did not read it either but the amount of voter suppression bills put up in state legislatures country-wide is epic!

Arizona sez "fuck yer vote"...

 

[shortylickens]

PSA:

Fascists and Communists are on opposite ends of the spectrum.

 

[Moonbeam]

People who act without conscience are the definition of evil. All that is required for evil to win is for good people to do nothing.

 

[shortylickens]

People who act without conscience are the definition of evil. All that is required for evil to win is for good people to do nothing.

Who are the good people?
Who are evil?

Right now just about one half of America thinks the other half is evil.
And you know what's really fuckin funny?
THAT HALF thinks the OTHER HALF is evil!!!

 

[hal2kilo]

PSA:

Fascists and Communists are on opposite ends of the spectrum.

You didn't read the article.

 

[Steltek]

Sorry, but you are all just deluding yourselves.

There are far too many ignorant morons in this country that support them for the GOP to go away like you are hoping. They may have lost a few of those 71,000,000 people that voted for Trump, but it turns out that it is surprisingly difficult to dissuade mean-spirited, nasty people from thinking crazy thoughts and doing/believing crazy things.

 

[dank69]

Sorry, but you are all just deluding yourselves.

There are far too many ignorant morons in this country that support them for the GOP to go away like you are hoping. They may have lost a few of those 71,000,000 people that voted for Trump, but it turns out that it is surprisingly difficult to dissuade mean-spirited, nasty people from thinking crazy thoughts and doing/believing crazy things.

*74,000,000

 

[shortylickens]

You didn't read the article.

you didnt read my post.

It literally started with "PSA".

PSA means Public Service Announcement.
I was just being helpful, in general.


YOU BASTARD!

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

PSA:

Fascists and Communists are on opposite ends of the spectrum.

That's not really true. You can have places like NK that are both fascist and communist.

 

[hal2kilo]

That's not really true. You can have places like NK that are both fascist and communist.

He missed the point.

 

[pauldun170]

Read it.
Feel like I need to to take a step back before really comment.
Need to brush up on my old USSR notes to refresh on 1960-1980's Soviet Union but the following parallels are passing the initial sniff test.

The Republican Party has, for years, ignored the ideas and principles it once espoused, to the point where the 2020 GOP convention simply dispensed with the fiction of a platform and instead declared the party to be whatever Comrade—excuse me, President—Donald Trump said it was.

Like Brezhnev, Trump has grown in status to become a heroic figure among his supporters. If the Republicans could create the rank of “Marshal of the American Republic” and strike a medal for a “Hero of American Culture,” Trump would have them both by now.

A GOP that once prided itself on its intellectual debates is now ruled by the turgid formulations of what the Soviets would have called their “leading cadres,” including ideological watchdogs such as Tucker Carlson and Mark Levin. Like their Soviet predecessors, a host of dull and dogmatic cable outlets, screechy radio talkers, and poorly written magazines crank out the same kind of fill-in-the-blanks screeds full of delusional accusations, replacing “NATO” and “revanchism” with “antifa” and “radicalism.”

The Republican Party is, for now, more of a danger to the United States than to the world. But like the last Soviet-era holdouts in the Kremlin, its cadres are growing more aggressive and paranoid. They blame spies and provocateurs for the Capitol riot, and they are obsessed with last summer’s protests (indeed, they are fixated on all criminals and rioters other than their own) to a point that now echoes the old Soviet lingo about “antisocial elements” and “hooligans.” They blame their failures at the ballot box not on their own shortcomings, but on fraud and sabotage as the justification for a redoubled crackdown on democracy.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/el...lls-would-restrict-voting-wake-trump-n1256821

 

[Sonikku]

Who are the good people?
Who are evil?

Right now just about one half of America thinks the other half is evil.
And you know what's really fuckin funny?
THAT HALF thinks the OTHER HALF is evil!!!

And they would be right.

 

[MrSquished]

Pretty much the GOP is now transitioning into a proto-fascistic cult based around a 'charismatic' ultra-nationalistic, xenophobic, jingoistic, pathologically lying leader similar to what happened in Italy and Germany in the 1920's and 30's

 

[shortylickens]

That's not really true. You can have places like NK that are both fascist and communist.

Your statement is not really true.

I never said you cant have both in the same country.

BUT, if you actually know these things, if you know politics, if you know society, then fascism and communism are on opposite ends of ideologies.
Also, if you know history, and you know what's going on right now, most of the people who call themselves communists are not even close to actual communists. Its just a label and its horse shit. Like Christians. Most Christians in the 21st century are nothing like Christ. Not even close.

And like I said, it was a general PSA. And I'm now wishing I had not brought it up.

 

[pmv]

I was thinking of a less inflamatory and more mundane comparator, like the Whigs (US or British variety). Their base of support has just shifted too much and they've become too divided. The context has changed from under them so they don't make sense as a party any more. But the article does seem to make a good case for a more provocative thesis.

 

[MrSquished]

The Republican party is NOT as divided as people think. The vast majority is just converting to a fascist Trump party, with a much smaller minority not going along. If only the republican party was as divided as some people say, I'd sleep much better at night.

 

[pmv]

The Republican party is NOT as divided as people think. The vast majority is just converting to a fascist Trump party, with a much smaller minority not going along. If only the republican party was as divided as some people say, I'd sleep much better at night.

You might be right about Republican voters, numerically, but I'm not sure it's true if you weight by money and intellectual-influence.

 

[conehead433]

"It's best to let the devil go to hell by himself".

 

[MrSquished]

Trump is like a dumber Mussolini, which makes his base just that much more dangerous.

 

[Moonbeam]

Who are the good people?
Who are evil?

There may be some confusion on that front because who is who is a deeply guarded secret. Some know and others think they do. If you should have any further curiosity on this natter let me tell you a story:

It was known in some circles that Mulla Nasrudin knew the secret and he had a disciple who plagued him to tell him it. But the Mulla always refused.

And the hounding and badgering went on and on and on. So one day the Mulla took this student aside and asked him if he were to tell him the secret would keep that secret. The student swore he would, but tha Mulla demanded he affirm that oath over and over again.

Finally the Mulla relented. He said to his disciple, “Know that I can keep a secret as well as you can.”

 

[ElMonoDelMar]

Your statement is not really true.

I never said you cant have both in the same country.

BUT, if you actually know these things, if you know politics, if you know society, then fascism and communism are on opposite ends of ideologies.
Also, if you know history, and you know what's going on right now, most of the people who call themselves communists are not even close to actual communists. Its just a label and its horse shit. Like Christians. Most Christians in the 21st century are nothing like Christ. Not even close.

And like I said, it was a general PSA. And I'm now wishing I had not brought it up.

Look up the definition to both words. They're not opposed in practice or in theory.

Righties and Lefties can both be fascists, but communism is on the political left of the spectrum. This is a pretty bad hill for you to defend.

 

[WelshBloke]

The Republican party is NOT as divided as people think. The vast majority is just converting to a fascist Trump party, with a much smaller minority not going along. If only the republican party was as divided as some people say, I'd sleep much better at night.

They get away with it by not saying the quiet bits out loud. As they become more overtly extreme they get louder about their views. This then turns a bigger number of people away from them as a party.
You are either going to end up with a schism in the political right in the US or a bunch of centre right people are going to be politically disenfranchised with the more centrists being hoovered up by the Democrats.
Either way it doesnt look good for the modern GOP. Cant say I'm upset about that, that party is broken.

 

[MrSquished]

2 weeks ago Mitch said in the Senate Trump was responsible for the insurrection. Today he said on Fox he would support Trump in 2024 if he runs.

Sorry to break it to folks, there is no big division in the GOP. Between voter suppression and the cult like base, they are just a worse form of the GOP now.