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Fern

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LMAO How, what did they do?

Can you go through this list of Bills blocked by the Repubs and explain how this is working on Jobs and/or the economy?
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Alright. Slow down and re-read my post.

I didn't say they were busy "working" on the economy.

I put out as explanation that they wanted to keep the focus of the campaign on the jobs and the economy. Hyping Benghazi would take attention away from that.

Anyway, it's just a guess. What we do know for a fact is that the Senate Repubs came out publicly and said they wanted to wait until after the election was over before taking it up. It may be because they had no control of the Senate, or any committee and it's scheduling, they had no choice.

Fern
 

Jhhnn

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Alright. Slow down and re-read my post.

I didn't say they were busy "working" on the economy.

I put out as explanation that they wanted to keep the focus of the campaign on the jobs and the economy. Hyping Benghazi would take attention away from that.

Anyway, it's just a guess. What we do know for a fact is that the Senate Repubs came out publicly and said they wanted to wait until after the election was over before taking it up. It may be because they had no control of the Senate, or any committee and it's scheduling, they had no choice.

Fern

So they were just posturing, bringing it up w/o actually taking it up, because they can't?

Mitt & Issa were on it like stink on shit, anyway...

How do you focus on the fuzzy economic flimflam of the Romney/Ryan campaign, anyway?
 

Thump553

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It is a "Hold", not a "pocket veto". While a senator may employ a hold against a routine judicial nomination, it is more of a senatorial courtesy than a hard and fast rule. A Cabinet level nomination is too prominent for a single senator or even a small group of senators to block. If the president can get enough votes for cloture he can get a vote by the full senate on the nomination.

Senator Brown got 46% of the votes in the last election with all the advantages of incumbency and tons of Rove/Koch cash behind him. He may have some advantage of name recognition in a Republican primary, a Massachusetts general election is not so friendly to a Republican candidate. Just look at the apparent lock as poor a campaigner as John Kerry has on the seat just because he runs as a Democrat.

Refresh my recollection, but isn't it a 60 vote supermajority vote needed for cloture? If so the GOP has her blocked from coming to a vote.

As far as how Brown 46%, I think that was damn good in a state Romney lost by like 20-30% (google not helping me to get exact figure). He's the overwhelming odds on favorite for any special election to fill Kerry's seat.
 

CallMeJoe

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Refresh my recollection, but isn't it a 60 vote supermajority vote needed for cloture? If so the GOP has her blocked from coming to a vote.
Yes, it does take 60 votes for cloture. If the vast majority of Senate Republicans vote together, they can block a Cabinet confirmation. There is not yet evidence of such solidarity.
As far as how Brown 46%, I think that was damn good in a state Romney lost by like 20-30% (google not helping me to get exact figure). He's the overwhelming odds on favorite for any special election to fill Kerry's seat.
Senator Brown is the overwhelming favorite for the Republican nomination, but until there is a Democratic nominee his general election odds are unknown. If Governor Patrick decides he would like to move to the Senate, Senator Brown would find himself at an immediate disadvantage.
FWIW, Deval Patrick has already announced he will not stand for reelection in 2014...
 

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I wasn't aware Patrick isn't going to run for reelection. He's the only Dem of any real statewide stature that could make this a contest. I don't know how popular he is right now-nearly all current governors have pretty low approval ratings because they bring nothing but bad news, layoffs, tax/fee increases and service reductions because of the economy.
 

CallMeJoe

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I wasn't aware Patrick isn't going to run for reelection. He's the only Dem of any real statewide stature that could make this a contest. I don't know how popular he is right now-nearly all current governors have pretty low approval ratings because they bring nothing but bad news, layoffs, tax/fee increases and service reductions because of the economy.
I googled Deval Patric's approval rating; my first return (from Public Policy Polling) showed Governor Patrick's Approval/Disapproval at 51/37 as of September 18 of this year.

It also included this note from their October poll:
The biggest thing that continues to make it very hard for Brown to win this race is that 52% of voters in the state want Democrats to have control of the US Senate to 35% who want the Republicans in control.
Not very promising for a Scott Brown comeback, regardless of the Democratic nominee.

I also note that at the time of this poll, it showed Elizabeth Warren with a 6 point lead, slightly less than her margin of victory in the actual election the following month.
 

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Rice is a fall guy . The white house put the story out and lied . Obummer lied . Nothing new about that . Using obummers own words.

The only people who don't want to expose the truth . Have something to hide . So what you hiding obummer . selling weapons to our enimies. treason .
 

Ausm

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Alright. Slow down and re-read my post.

I didn't say they were busy "working" on the economy.

I put out as explanation that they wanted to keep the focus of the campaign on the jobs and the economy. Hyping Benghazi would take attention away from that.

Anyway, it's just a guess. What we do know for a fact is that the Senate Repubs came out publicly and said they wanted to wait until after the election was over before taking it up. It may be because they had no control of the Senate, or any committee and it's scheduling, they had no choice.

Fern

That's nice Fern, now would you like to go through all the bills that the GOP has blocked and illustrate how this has been helping produce jobs and an economic recover for the last 4 years? Maybe their blatant obstructionism and it's results are the reason why they were "focused" on the Election ?
 
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That's nice Fern, now would you like to go through all the bills that the GOP has blocked and illustrate how this has been helping produce jobs and an economic recover for the last 4 years? Maybe their blatant obstructionism and it's results are the reason why they were "focused" on the Election ?

That pos obamas policies aren't going to work so yes they should block them

You cant spend yourself out of this You HAVE TO CUT SPENDING
 

Ausm

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That pos obamas policies aren't going to work so yes they should block them

You cant spend yourself out of this You HAVE TO CUT SPENDING

Republicans should block the bill that would have created MILLIONS of jobs who then would have been paying taxes on the wages makes you an even bigger idiot then I have previously thought.
 
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