The reality of social classes

DVad3r

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So I'm calling some parents up today at work regarding their kids skipping classes. It's funny the responses you get from the secretaries or operators at work when you ask for the parent. If they have a low level position like a factory worker, it's usually like "sorry, so and so is working on the floor, call back later". If it's a person that's head of human resources, they put you through immedietely or page down the parent to come.

That's pretty sad.

Cliffs:

You work low lvl job = shafted and not respected, your not important

You work good job = you have respect and people care about where your kids are
 

nageov3t

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well, it's a lot easier to come to the phone when you're sitting at a desk playing solitaire.
 

LS8

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Social classes will always exist, whether you think that is good or bad.
 

Babbles

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WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
So I'm calling some parents up today at work regarding their kids skipping classes. It's funny the responses you get from the secretaries or operators at work when you ask for the parent. If they have a low level position like a factory worker, it's usually like "sorry, so and so is working on the floor, call back later". If it's a person that's head of human resources, they put you through immedietely or page down the parent to come.

That's pretty sad.

Cliffs:

You work low lvl job = shafted and not respected, your not important

You work good job = you have respect and people care about where your kids are



no whats sad is the fact you can't think it all the way through.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.

And I, for one, welcome our new robotic overlords.

 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.

what about the blue collar people who fix the robots? :(
 

DVad3r

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Think what through? So it's ok to get one person to the phone because their kid hasn't been in school for an entire month but the other blue collar person battling it out on the floor shouldn't be informed? This is the stupid fuckin ATOT bullshit I've come to expect already, I'm not suprised this time though.

You think about what you're saying, not me.

It's obviously important. They are just being treated like shit and don't have the luxury of taking 5 minutes off from their 9 dollar per hour pay because the people upstairs don't give a shit.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Think what through? So it's ok to get one person to the phone because their kid hasn't been in school for an entire month but the other blue collar person battling it out on the floor shouldn't be informed? This is the stupid fuckin ATOT bullshit I've come to expect already, I'm not suprised this time though.

You think about what you're saying, not me.

It's obviously important. They are just being treated like shit and don't have the luxury of taking 5 minutes off from their 9 dollar per hour pay because the people upstairs don't give a shit.

And obviously, the only way possible to contact these people is in a way and time that's convenient to you. :confused:
 

ggnl

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Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.

what about the blue collar people who fix the robots? :(

more robots...

then when they're completely self sufficient, they can rise up and overthrow their human oppressors.
 

acheron

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Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.

what about the blue collar people who fix the robots? :(

more robots...

then when they're completely self sufficient, they can rise up and overthrow their human oppressors.

We can always block out the sun to stop them from collecting solar power. What could go wrong?
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Think what through? So it's ok to get one person to the phone because their kid hasn't been in school for an entire month but the other blue collar person battling it out on the floor shouldn't be informed? This is the stupid fuckin ATOT bullshit I've come to expect already, I'm not suprised this time though.

You think about what you're saying, not me.

It's obviously important. They are just being treated like shit and don't have the luxury of taking 5 minutes off from their 9 dollar per hour pay because the people upstairs don't give a shit.


Some people don't have the luxury of taking 5 minutes from their $9/hour job; a job they probably use to feed their family, dipshit. They could just as well be fired for not being productive. That'll be great for the kids, eh? You think the world revolves around what is convenient for you? I think if anything this is evidence of your failure of doing your job. You should determine when it is best to contact these parents so as not to jeopardize their job.

. . . wow, and you are involved with the education of children?
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Think what through? So it's ok to get one person to the phone because their kid hasn't been in school for an entire month but the other blue collar person battling it out on the floor shouldn't be informed? This is the stupid fuckin ATOT bullshit I've come to expect already, I'm not suprised this time though.

You think about what you're saying, not me.

It's obviously important. They are just being treated like shit and don't have the luxury of taking 5 minutes off from their 9 dollar per hour pay because the people upstairs don't give a shit.

What, you can't just leave a message?
 

MotF Bane

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Originally posted by: acheron
Originally posted by: ggnl
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.

what about the blue collar people who fix the robots? :(

more robots...

then when they're completely self sufficient, they can rise up and overthrow their human oppressors.

We can always block out the sun to stop them from collecting solar power. What could go wrong?

I can't imagine, but I think we should start building an underground city.
 

Leros

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.

people are cheaper and more versatile than robots... for now
 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: DVad3r
Think what through? So it's ok to get one person to the phone because their kid hasn't been in school for an entire month but the other blue collar person battling it out on the floor shouldn't be informed? This is the stupid fuckin ATOT bullshit I've come to expect already, I'm not suprised this time though.

You think about what you're saying, not me.

It's obviously important. They are just being treated like shit and don't have the luxury of taking 5 minutes off from their 9 dollar per hour pay because the people upstairs don't give a shit.


Some people don't have the luxury of taking 5 minutes from their $9/hour job; a job they probably use to feed their family, dipshit. They could just as well be fired for not being productive. That'll be great for the kids, eh? You think the world revolves around what is convenient for you? I think if anything this is evidence of your failure of doing your job. You should determine when it is best to contact these parents so as not to jeopardize their job.

. . . wow, and you are involved with the education of children?

this...
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.

people are cheaper and more versatile than robots... for now

Are you saying that the robots will outsource their work to Malaysia!!??
 

Mr Pickles

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The way a receptionist handles your call has nothing to do with how much the business respects their co-workers. Its called protocol. If someone works in production and cannot be reached right away then that's that. If someone has a cube or office with a phone handy then of course they are going to put your through to their line. This isn't that hard to figure out. Don't view it as a bunch of monkey suits standing on cat walks whipping the poor defenseless assembly line workers.
 

Leros

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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.

people are cheaper and more versatile than robots... for now

Are you saying that the robots will outsource their work to Malaysia!!??

Oh my god....
 

Fritzo

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Not really---I was a supervisor for a TV manufacturing plant, and if I was on the floor I could not be disturbed, so I would get no calls. This was because if I got distracted, someone could get hurt.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: DVad3r
Think what through? So it's ok to get one person to the phone because their kid hasn't been in school for an entire month but the other blue collar person battling it out on the floor shouldn't be informed? This is the stupid fuckin ATOT bullshit I've come to expect already, I'm not suprised this time though.

You think about what you're saying, not me.

It's obviously important. They are just being treated like shit and don't have the luxury of taking 5 minutes off from their 9 dollar per hour pay because the people upstairs don't give a shit.

I bet you're a democrat