The reality of social classes

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: DVad3r
How is not getting someone to take a phone call regarding their kid missing school not important?

Who said it's not important? Anything having to do with your child is important. It's most definitely not an emergency though.

It's not the person working not being able to take the call, obviously they do want to take it

How did you determine that? From the receptionist saying they can't take the call?

it's the fact that their company or wherever they are working doesn't even inform them of it, nor do they allow any time allowance for important personal matters.

That sounds like a far-reaching assumption to me.

I am still amused by the amount of people not understanding

From the way the receptionist or boss presents themselves, as in, "oh you're trying to reach him, well he's working, gtfo". As opposed to someone of a higher standing "one moment sir, we will page the building to get her to come". You are making assumptions about me and my calls. I wouldn't post this if I didn't see the differences.

Even if what you argue is true, why doesn't the receptionist or whoever take a note, take the schools number down, and tell the worker when he/she has a break to call back and find out?

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: DVad3r
I think you guys are missing my point. Reading comprehension FTL. Anyone here actually understand what I'm talking about or is everyone stupid?

Owned? ok...

the capacity to have a phone call forwarded to your desk =! importance or respect. likewise, not always being near a phone or able to drop what you're working on to answer one doesn't mean your unimportant/not respected

This.

Alright. Next time your kid's missing at school I'm sure you'd love to hear about it when you arrive home at 6 pm instead of being told at work so you could figure out wtf is going on.

And do you tell the random person answering the phone that this is a emergency?

It could be and it could not. The schools purpose is not to determine where the kid is if he/she didn't show up at school. Thus the reason for phone calls to parents, so they can deal with it. I am pretty sure some of those parents would leave work and try to find their kids when told that they haven't been in class for the past few days/weeks, or even months in some cases.

The school I work at is pretty bad. I get through maybe 25 % of an attendence absence list per day.

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Descartes
This is full of fail. You do understand that even C-people will often be on the floor, right? You can't always tell the CFO from a mechanic on some manufacturing floors. And I can guarantee you that neither will be able to drop what they're doing to take a phone call.

Someone that sits in an office all day has a greater luxury of being in proximity to a phone. So, I think you've confused things greatly and tried to draw some parallels to the social classes.

Sears and a leather jacket outlet store are places where people aren't able to drop work?

That's pertinent information. Unless I'm blind, I didn't see you mention that in an earlier post.

Why? Did you assume everyone I was talking about was working at a shipyard?

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

Why is the pay difference so high. What benefit does a distant employee bring?

 

[Oceandevi]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer

Originally posted by: Babbles
WTF, sorry OP but you haven't really thought this all of the way through.

If people are in production oriented jobs it is quite often difficult to pull them off the line and have them chat on the phone, unless it is an actual emergency. Also as loki noted if you have a white collar desk job with a phone on your desk, it is pretty simple to patch a caller through.

It has nothing at all to do with respect. . . wow, I am just appalled at your lack of thinking. It is just simple business production practices.

I put it like this. Most white collar jobs have no individual effect on the companies business in the day to day operation. Most production or blue collar jobs have an immediate effect on production ie. it stops.

the solution is to eliminate all blue collar jobs through use of robots.

what about the blue collar people who fix the robots?

Use robots to fix the robots.

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: DVad3r
I think you guys are missing my point. Reading comprehension FTL. Anyone here actually understand what I'm talking about or is everyone stupid?

Owned? ok...

the capacity to have a phone call forwarded to your desk =! importance or respect. likewise, not always being near a phone or able to drop what you're working on to answer one doesn't mean your unimportant/not respected

This.

Alright. Next time your kid's missing at school I'm sure you'd love to hear about it when you arrive home at 6 pm instead of being told at work so you could figure out wtf is going on.

And do you tell the random person answering the phone that this is a emergency?

It could be and it could not. The schools purpose is not to determine where the kid is if he/she didn't show up at school. Thus the reason for phone calls to parents, so they can deal with it. I am pretty sure some of those parents would leave work and try to find their kids when told that they haven't been in class for the past few days/weeks, or even months in some cases.

The school I work at is pretty bad. I get through maybe 25 % of an attendence absence list per day.

So just so we're clear:

-You don't specifically say its an emergency
-You have a 25% absence rate, clearly showing that 25% of parents don't give a shit

And you wonder why they don't come running to the phone?

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: DVad3r
I think you guys are missing my point. Reading comprehension FTL. Anyone here actually understand what I'm talking about or is everyone stupid?

Owned? ok...

the capacity to have a phone call forwarded to your desk =! importance or respect. likewise, not always being near a phone or able to drop what you're working on to answer one doesn't mean your unimportant/not respected

This.

Alright. Next time your kid's missing at school I'm sure you'd love to hear about it when you arrive home at 6 pm instead of being told at work so you could figure out wtf is going on.

And do you tell the random person answering the phone that this is a emergency?

It could be and it could not. The schools purpose is not to determine where the kid is if he/she didn't show up at school. Thus the reason for phone calls to parents, so they can deal with it. I am pretty sure some of those parents would leave work and try to find their kids when told that they haven't been in class for the past few days/weeks, or even months in some cases.

The school I work at is pretty bad. I get through maybe 25 % of an attendence absence list per day.

So just so we're clear:

-You don't specifically say its an emergency
-You have a 25% absence rate, clearly showing that 25% of parents don't give a shit

And you wonder why they don't come running to the phone?

See, that's the reason I say again, people have no clue how to read and comprehend, thus not understanding this thread. Saying "I get through maybe 25 % of an attendence absence list per day" means that I don't finish the other 75 %. Not that the school has a 25 % absence rate.

Why would I say it's an emergency if their kid is smoking a joint at this friends house for the last month?

You are SMART!

 

[ric1287]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: DVad3r
I think you guys are missing my point. Reading comprehension FTL. Anyone here actually understand what I'm talking about or is everyone stupid?

Owned? ok...

the capacity to have a phone call forwarded to your desk =! importance or respect. likewise, not always being near a phone or able to drop what you're working on to answer one doesn't mean your unimportant/not respected

This.

Alright. Next time your kid's missing at school I'm sure you'd love to hear about it when you arrive home at 6 pm instead of being told at work so you could figure out wtf is going on.

And do you tell the random person answering the phone that this is a emergency?

It could be and it could not. The schools purpose is not to determine where the kid is if he/she didn't show up at school. Thus the reason for phone calls to parents, so they can deal with it. I am pretty sure some of those parents would leave work and try to find their kids when told that they haven't been in class for the past few days/weeks, or even months in some cases.

The school I work at is pretty bad. I get through maybe 25 % of an attendence absence list per day.

So just so we're clear:

-You don't specifically say its an emergency
-You have a 25% absence rate, clearly showing that 25% of parents don't give a shit

And you wonder why they don't come running to the phone?

See, that's the reason I say again, people have no clue how to read and comprehend, thus not understanding this thread. Saying "I get through maybe 25 % of an attendence absence list per day" means that I don't finish the other 75 %. Not that the school has a 25 % absence rate.

Why would I say it's an emergency if their kid is smoking a joint at this friends house for the last month?

You are SMART!

Well, i did mis-read that, but the point still stands.

Either :
A: you are the slowest worker ever and only get through 1/4 of your work which involves calling people
B: the list is huge so you only get through that much

Again, if you call about a non-emergency situation, how can you expect people to drop everything? You are SMART!

 

[DVad3r]

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: DVad3r
I think you guys are missing my point. Reading comprehension FTL. Anyone here actually understand what I'm talking about or is everyone stupid?

Owned? ok...

the capacity to have a phone call forwarded to your desk =! importance or respect. likewise, not always being near a phone or able to drop what you're working on to answer one doesn't mean your unimportant/not respected

This.

Alright. Next time your kid's missing at school I'm sure you'd love to hear about it when you arrive home at 6 pm instead of being told at work so you could figure out wtf is going on.

And do you tell the random person answering the phone that this is a emergency?

It could be and it could not. The schools purpose is not to determine where the kid is if he/she didn't show up at school. Thus the reason for phone calls to parents, so they can deal with it. I am pretty sure some of those parents would leave work and try to find their kids when told that they haven't been in class for the past few days/weeks, or even months in some cases.

The school I work at is pretty bad. I get through maybe 25 % of an attendence absence list per day.

So just so we're clear:

-You don't specifically say its an emergency
-You have a 25% absence rate, clearly showing that 25% of parents don't give a shit

And you wonder why they don't come running to the phone?

They don't even know they had a phone call...

But you are right, the majority of chronic skippers do tend to be those of parents from the lower jobs at least I assume they are low. But does that still not give them the right to be informed at work?

 

[sdifox]

op may I suggest snail mail? mail a letter signed by the principal to haul the parents in. If they don't show, you have done their part. Nothing is more formal than a letter when it comes to communication from school.

 

[Mr Pickles]

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: ric1287

Originally posted by: DVad3r

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: DVad3r
I think you guys are missing my point. Reading comprehension FTL. Anyone here actually understand what I'm talking about or is everyone stupid?

Owned? ok...

the capacity to have a phone call forwarded to your desk =! importance or respect. likewise, not always being near a phone or able to drop what you're working on to answer one doesn't mean your unimportant/not respected

This.

Alright. Next time your kid's missing at school I'm sure you'd love to hear about it when you arrive home at 6 pm instead of being told at work so you could figure out wtf is going on.

And do you tell the random person answering the phone that this is a emergency?

It could be and it could not. The schools purpose is not to determine where the kid is if he/she didn't show up at school. Thus the reason for phone calls to parents, so they can deal with it. I am pretty sure some of those parents would leave work and try to find their kids when told that they haven't been in class for the past few days/weeks, or even months in some cases.

The school I work at is pretty bad. I get through maybe 25 % of an attendence absence list per day.

So just so we're clear:

-You don't specifically say its an emergency
-You have a 25% absence rate, clearly showing that 25% of parents don't give a shit

And you wonder why they don't come running to the phone?

See, that's the reason I say again, people have no clue how to read and comprehend, thus not understanding this thread. Saying "I get through maybe 25 % of an attendence absence list per day" means that I don't finish the other 75 %. Not that the school has a 25 % absence rate.

Why would I say it's an emergency if their kid is smoking a joint at this friends house for the last month?

You are SMART!

We apparently don't understand you, yet you keep responding. This is great.

Originally posted by: sdifox
op may I suggest snail mail? mail a letter signed by the principal to haul the parents in. If they don't show, you have done their part. Nothing is more formal than a letter when it comes to communication from school.

Yeah this always got me. Its one thing to try and call someone while they are at work but the easy act of grabbing the mail and scrolling through on their way back inside is submission to paying full attention to what's in their hands.

I used to hate getting letters from school. I can remember getting detention for doing stupid shit in the lunch room and then checking the mail the next three days to make sure I didn't get a letter.

 

[judasmachine]

You are right, the lower the class the less respect, but your example is not relevant. But also it runs both ways. The production line worker wouldn't give a rat's behind about his bosses kids either.

 

[Bulk Beef]

I thought it was common knowledge that blue collar workers don't give a fuck about their kids.

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Originally posted by: DVad3r
So I'm calling some parents up today at work regarding their kids skipping classes. It's funny the responses you get from the secretaries or operators at work when you ask for the parent. If they have a low level position like a factory worker, it's usually like "sorry, so and so is working on the floor, call back later". If it's a person that's head of human resources, they put you through immedietely or page down the parent to come.

That's pretty sad.

Cliffs:

You work low lvl job = shafted and not respected, your not important

You work good job = you have respect and people care about where your kids are

Yore eh tea chair? LOL!