The problem with blacks in america is...

[Garet Jax]

Considering that you also cannot tell a young white supremacist from a young white doctoral candidate, you must find walking very taxing.

Very true - I now walk down the middle of the street and spend more time trying to avoid the cars.

 

[werepossum]

We have made progress, and it really depends on where you live or where you are. Plus now days much of the racism is not so obvious like it was in the past, you have people who will speak differently around black and white people. They will say lots of negative things around white people, while being outwardly nice around black people.

I grew up around all sorts of races and cultures, nearly every one of my friends were of different races. I had a very different view on people who look different than many of my white friends I have now. There are a few of them who are clearly racist when there are no black people around. It's kind of sad, now it's not as bad as it used to be and I do know at least one who has changed their views on race since I have known them.

I also see major differences depending where you live. There are also experiences I have had while going out with my friends of different races that I would have never had if I had been out with just white people. But what I do see is things changing for the better and those who are racist continue to be less accepted.

Have to wonder how often those people get foot-in-mouth disease. Lot of racial mixing nowadays, you never know who has an interracial relationship. Also, my niece's best friend is a black girl with two medium-skinned parents, but she herself is very light-skinned with straightened hair black hair and brown eyes. Very few people realize she is black, she grew up speaking just like any other Southerner, and she herself is of a generation that is more or less oblivious to race, so it's sometimes amusing to see people learn who her parents are. You can almost see the gears grinding as they attempt to think back, hoping they never said anything racist. I've always liked the concept of karma, but in today's world it can come quite suddenly.

Very true - I now walk down the middle of the street and spend more time trying to avoid the cars.

+1

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

We have made progress, and it really depends on where you live or where you are. Plus now days much of the racism is not so obvious like it was in the past, you have people who will speak differently around black and white people. They will say lots of negative things around white people, while being outwardly nice around black people.

I grew up around all sorts of races and cultures, nearly every one of my friends were of different races. I had a very different view on people who look different than many of my white friends I have now. There are a few of them who are clearly racist when there are no black people around. It's kind of sad, now it's not as bad as it used to be and I do know at least one who has changed their views on race since I have known them.

I also see major differences depending where you live. There are also experiences I have had while going out with my friends of different races that I would have never had if I had been out with just white people. But what I do see is things changing for the better and those who are racist continue to be less accepted.

I have said this 10 billion times here. People living in the north will never understand when they don't live near it. Out of sight, yet in mind like they know what it's like. You will never know.

 

[Whiskey16]

People living in the north will never understand when they don't live near it. Out of sight, yet in mind like they know what it's like. You will never know.

Racist says, 'Damn those darkies.'

Homogenous, denigrating marginalisation and racial classification of an identifiable group of the population.

Such disrespect and supporting evidence for prejudicial bigotry continues for the OP's heartfelt message concerning personal experiences with racial prejudice.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Racist says, 'Damn those darkies.'

Homogenous, denigrating marginalisation and racial classification of an identifiable group of the population.

Such disrespect and supporting evidence for prejudicial bigotry continues for the OP's heartfelt message concerning personal experiences with racial prejudice.

Your race card has to be over it's limit by now. I suspect no one pays attention to your use of racist anymore.

 

[Zebo]

Black Privilege. Telling them they are victims. Giving handouts AA, minority contracts, set asides etc. etc. Society babies black people they get worse in every stat year by year. Families, income, crime etc I'm generalizing of course - and these freebies are now effecting whites too (aka trailer trash) but blacks are thoroughly indoctrinated into the FREE SHIT ARMY. aka FSA.

Asians just come here and kick ass. Even with $100 in pocket FoB like many I grew up with in Ca. Mexicans similar. everyone else too. Even African Blacks. But they are not taught to be victimes or babied.

They are taught discipline, respect, three Rs, value education, value family institutions. You know normal shit successful people practice.

 

[Whiskey16]

Your race card has to be over it's limit by now. I suspect no one pays attention to your use of racist anymore.

It is quite telling of the number here who find motivation to post against those who, with support, correctly identify the presentations that are prejudicially bigoted against a targeted population group -- blacks.

I am not making up a thing, but directly quoting and condemning the words and racist content that has been posted. There is no room for varying opinion if these posts are racist and harmfully prejudice against blacks. The truth of the matter is that classifying a population by race and chastising that same demographic for prejudicial traits is most certainly racist.

If one is insulted by that deserved label, then the resolution is quite simply to cease the racism. I will not stop being honest with the matters at hand. If you have a problem with this, then make your complaints. Racist presentations are apparently permitted, so I dearly hope their justified critiques are not discouraged.

You perceive me as the relative problem, therefore demonstrably, you people and society are quite ill. Racism and bigotry is not a present issue to you lot, your great angst is against those who are expressively intolerant of these forum records of racism.

 

[Nebor]

It is quite telling of the number here who find motivation to post against those who, with support, correctly identify the presentations that are prejudicially bigoted against a targeted population group -- blacks.

I am not making up a thing, but directly quoting and condemning the words and racist content that has been posted. There is no room for varying opinion if these posts are racist and harmfully prejudice against blacks. The truth of the matter is that classifying a population by race and chastising that same demographic for prejudicial traits is most certainly racist.

If one is insulted by that deserved label, then the resolution is quite simply to cease the racism. I will not stop being honest with the matters at hand. If you have a problem with this, then make your complaints to moderation about me. Racist presentations are apparently permitted, so I dearly hope their justified critiques are not discouraged.

You perceive me as the relative problem, therefore demonstrably, you people and society are quite ill. Racism and bigotry is not a present issue to you lot, your great angst is against those who are expressively intolerant of these forum records of racism.

No one is going to complain to moderation. They don't have a problem with your constant playing of the race card. They just don't care. I feel like I've been telling you this for years. And yet you persist in whining about how this board "tolerates racism and religious hatred" and how it's full of racists... Does it seem like it's changing to you?

No one cares what you have to say in your english as a second language English.

 

[cubby1223]

You perceive me as the relative problem, therefore demonstrably, you people and society are quite ill.

No, you're perceived more along the lines of insignificant. I'm insignificant too, so don't be offended.

 

[Whiskey16]

An attacking defence for the racists from:

No one is going to complain to moderation. They don't have a problem with your constant playing of the race card. They just don't care. I feel like I've been telling you this for years.

Nebor, you are an already censored extremist and violent bigot who has presented and reaffirmed threats to kill members at this site through to their families [1] [2].

Among those most radical and violent members at this forum has chose to defend racism. Surprised?

Prejudice and racism is present here in the AnandTech P&N, and I myself and others will not be bullied into silence.

 

[boochi]

I have said this 10 billion times here. People living in the north will never understand when they don't live near it. Out of sight, yet in mind like they know what it's like. You will never know.

Is that the same picture as the welfare map? Coincidence?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

It is quite telling of the number here who find motivation to post against those who, with support, correctly identify the presentations that are prejudicially bigoted against a targeted population group -- blacks.

I am not making up a thing, but directly quoting and condemning the words and racist content that has been posted. There is no room for varying opinion if these posts are racist and harmfully prejudice against blacks. The truth of the matter is that classifying a population by race and chastising that same demographic for prejudicial traits is most certainly racist.

If one is insulted by that deserved label, then the resolution is quite simply to cease the racism. I will not stop being honest with the matters at hand. If you have a problem with this, then make your complaints. Racist presentations are apparently permitted, so I dearly hope their justified critiques are not discouraged.

You perceive me as the relative problem, therefore demonstrably, you people and society are quite ill. Racism and bigotry is not a present issue to you lot, your great angst is against those who are expressively intolerant of these forum records of racism.

The problem is that many are labeled racist just because they don't agree with liberal/progressive thinking.

Feel evidence and testimony corroborates GZ claim of self defense = racist
Agree with "not guilty" verdict = racist

And the list goes on in AT P&N

 

[Doppel]

Your race card has to be over it's limit by now. I suspect no one pays attention to your use of racist anymore.

Yep the bank called and he is now in overdraft. I think most of his posts are just created by a bot anyway. He plugs in a few parameters, such as length and how many times he wants the word bigot in the post and the bot gives him something to paste in.

Someonesmind's point would be lost on many but find me a 100% white community in the middle of nowhere and you will see it is free of racists. It is easier to ignore race when it isn't part of your life. Heterogenous communities present a greater challenge than homogenous.

 

[Whiskey16]

Someonesmind's point would be lost on many but find me a 100% white community in the middle of nowhere and you will see it is free of racists. It is easier to ignore race when it isn't part of your life. Heterogenous communities present a greater challenge than homogenous.

Translated, "Hooray for segregation!"

As per the racist defender that is Doppel (motivated to rally against those find racism vile all the while justifying the presented racism), the problems for racists and xenophobic bigots are the presence of those groups who they demean and the intolerant whiners who follow to identify, condemn racism, and attempt to eliminate such harmful bigotry from society. Solution -- segregation, to keep the dirty hordes at bay.

 

[Whiskey16]

The problem is that many are labeled racist just because they don't agree with liberal/progressive thinking.

No, regardless of political stripes -- racism is racism.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

No, regardless of political stripes -- racism is racism.

I look forward to you calling out the progressive racists.


Though I won't hold my breath waiting for you to do such.

 

[Doppel]

Translated, "Hooray for segregation!"

As per the racist defender that is Doppel (motivated to rally against those find racism vile all the while justifying the presented racism), the problems for racists and xenophobic bigots are the presence of those groups who they demean and the intolerant whiners who follow to identify, condemn racism, and attempt to eliminate such harmful bigotry from society. Solution -- segregation, to keep the dirty hordes at bay.

You can imagine my horror as I read your post. My expectations of it were under great scrutiny half way through. I feared I was to be let down. But then, like the sun peaking out from behind a rain cloud after a terrible storm I saw it. There in its glory! You did not let me down; you had the "include variant of bigot in auto-post" clicked in your bot program as I had trusted you would. And so near the end when I saw the word bigotry I knew I was reading a genuine, seal-of-approval Whiskey16 post. Thank you!

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Is that the same picture as the welfare map? Coincidence?

Good question, feel free to post one if they actually have that somewhere for measure. I would be curious to see where it strives the most.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Someonesmind's point would be lost on many but find me a 100% white community in the middle of nowhere and you will see it is free of racists. It is easier to ignore race when it isn't part of your life. Heterogenous communities present a greater challenge than homogenous.

Not even just that. It's easy to feel sorry and base your opinion of an entire race when all you see are a 1-2 hobos and a couple friendly co-workers. When your day consists of a token black guy and no other's - my point stands even more than someone that see none.

 

[werepossum]

Translated, "Hooray for segregation!"

As per the racist defender that is Doppel (motivated to rally against those find racism vile all the while justifying the presented racism), the problems for racists and xenophobic bigots are the presence of those groups who they demean and the intolerant whiners who follow to identify, condemn racism, and attempt to eliminate such harmful bigotry from society. Solution -- segregation, to keep the dirty hordes at bay.

Wow. mega-fail. Nothing in his post (or in Someonesmind's post) advocated segregation, but rather was pointing out that if one has no interaction with a race one has little reason to have any strong feelings about them. I don't fully agree - seems to me the less contact one has with a group the more easily one sees them as "them" while the more interaction one has with a group the more they seem like "us" - but if you are going to disagree you should at least be able to first understand the concept with which you disagree.

 

[thecurryface]

The problem with blacks in america is basically that they have never been treated fairly.

I hear all manners of discussions that characterize black people as criminals, ignorant, unintelligent, racist, etc.. But really how would you expect a group of people to act when the moment that they arrived in america they were treated as subhumans or animals? Imagine how you would feel if you were labeled before you even had a chance to demonstrate who you really were.

Just 50 or 60 years ago it was ok in america to force black people to use separate water fountains, to sit in the back of the bus or public auditoriums, to use different entrances in public buildings. It was ok to lynch and hang black people over the slightest infractions. How would you feel if that was your legacy? How would you look at a society knowing that you were considered to be inferior no matter what you achieved in life?

I grew up with an immense love for reading. I love all forms of books whether it's fiction, history or math, I enjoy the pleasure of reading. During my grammar school years many of my test scores were on the level of college students. Yet despite the fact that I had an obvious aptitude for the written word, more often than not I was judged soley on the color of my skin. I remember at 11 years old being placed in a school for advanced students (which was predominately white) and had to be taken out because of the backlash from the students, teachers and parents (this was in the late 1980's). I can remember times walking home from the mall or school and being verbally and physically harassed for no other reason than being black. The reason I bring this up is simply to point out that this kind of treatment will naturally cause a reaction. Let me state for the record that I have never treated or spoke of any person of a different race or color in a derogatory manner. Nor do I condone any one doing so, although I can understand the frustration of people who may react in a less than civil manner.

When I read thoughts and comments such as the ones expressed here ( http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2331735 ), I can't help but to feel a little annoyed. I could argue the statements made in that thread for hours, but in the end it would achieve nothing in the larger scheme of things. I realize that this post itself will likely not change many opinions or feelings, but in the interest of present both sides of a coin I felt the need to put my thoughts online.

Discrimination everywhere. Pretty much human nature to treat different things differently.. --9999wordstatementcompressed with superalgorithm

 

[thecurryface]

Wow. mega-fail. Nothing in his post (or in Someonesmind's post) advocated segregation, but rather was pointing out that if one has no interaction with a race one has little reason to have any strong feelings about them. I don't fully agree - seems to me the less contact one has with a group the more easily one sees them as "them" while the more interaction one has with a group the more they seem like "us" - but if you are going to disagree you should at least be able to first understand the concept with which you disagree.

lolwhut happens with all these debates. Isn't there already segregation for everything...

 

[mammador]

They still blame slavery for their problems.

They lack the drive to succeed based on this.

They fail to acknowledge that Afro-American pop culture is inherently anti-achievement. Not until their mindset and culture changes, will Afro-America succeed.

 

[classy]

You think black people are the only people who have been "oppressed" in America?

LOL

This really needs no comment on how weak and stupid this looks as some type of token to justify the history of blacks as being common among other peoples.

 

[ThinClient]

Do you sincerely suggest that welfare, some civil rights laws and the EEOC make up for 300 years of oppression?

I mean we have come a long way from 60 years ago, but things are still pretty bad out there for (most of) the black community in America.

If they weren't alive for 300 years then they didn't experience 300 years of oppression.

There is no collective "they" in this situation. No one alive today owned slaves. No one alive today was a slave.

If I follow their own logic, I could claim Bolshevik oppression and hate Russians even though I wasn't even born when the revolution took place.

What a stupid argument.