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The Presidents press conf 8/15 started as Infrastructure ended a mess *Now with a double down 8/17*

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They do, even in the last week
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mp-activist-executed-Republican-neighbor.html

We've seen how fast and loose the label of nazi has been applied, while there were a few there, not all of them were, Trump was accurate, but the left simply wishes to paint targets on peoples backs because their violence is always excused and swept under the rug. While democrats who control the cities where violence just so happens to be allowed to run out of control are never examined, because the truth is they benefit from violence, always have, always will.


As with the russia question, it was never meant to be answered, the question is the smear.

The side knocking down statues attempting to erase history and now censoring the internet do not back the administration, but their authoritarian tendencies have become loud and clear.
If you stand shoulder to shoulder with nazis, why feign ignorance when people call you out on it.
 
Someone forgot to change the paper again.

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They do, even in the last week
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mp-activist-executed-Republican-neighbor.html

We've seen how fast and loose the label of nazi has been applied, while there were a few there, not all of them were, Trump was accurate, but the left simply wishes to paint targets on peoples backs because their violence is always excused and swept under the rug. While democrats who control the cities where violence just so happens to be allowed to run out of control are never examined, because the truth is they benefit from violence, always have, always will.


As with the russia question, it was never meant to be answered, the question is the smear.

The side knocking down statues attempting to erase history and now censoring the internet do not back the administration, but their authoritarian tendencies have become loud and clear.
 
This. World War 2.0 in the halls of the forgotten. Are we doomed to repeat this crap every so often with still bigger bombs until we destroy everything?


Marvel shpuldbdo another movie on Captain America battling current day racists.
 
Fox couldn't get a single Republican to go on air to defend the president.

"Our booking team — and they're good — reached out to Republicans of all stripes across the country today," Smith said on his show "Shepard Smith Reporting."

"Let's be honest, Republicans don't often really mind coming on Fox News Channel. We couldn't get anyone to come and defend him here because we thought, in balance, someone should do that," he continued.

"We worked very hard at it throughout the day, and we were unsuccessful. And of those who are condemning the president's condemnable actions, I've not heard any prominent leaders, former presidents, members of the House or the Senate use his name while speaking in generalities," he said.
 
It's all about future votes. Period.

Trump didn't want to come down so pointedly on Nazis that his disdain would splash onto his core of white supporters who were marching with whoever supports him. The man doesn't have a principle in his being - everything is about votes, winning, staying "popular" with the people who support him. He really doesn't care who they are or what anyone else thinks.

Having drawn this distinction, Trump could portray what happened in Charlottesville not as a battle over racism but instead as a clash between two equally legitimate political factions..
 
It's not just me who disagrees with nazi white supremacists totalitarians, we fought wars over this. Anyone who claims to be for America should be enraged that this belief is still perpetuated and growing in our country.

If you disagree, you're a white supremacist.

They're welcome to keep they're back woods klan meetings rollin, now they're out in public, and a POTUS who is encouraging it...
We also fought a war even earlier about the right to peacefully disagree with each other. Until they aren't peaceful (and it won't be long..) I'd allow even nazis to speak.

I'm plenty enraged. The issue is whether first - blood violence is justified
 
No I don't know the solution. I'm just not convinced punching people is the best, long-term solution. Which some here advocate. I support free speech, even that which I disagree with. And believe bringing their hateful views into the open is the best way, and would also rob them of their victim card
How about driving cars through crowds of people you don't agree with? Is that ok?

How about showing up to protest the removal of a statue, and you in military gear with a rifle, that sounds pretty peaceful, amirite?
 
They do, even in the last week
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mp-activist-executed-Republican-neighbor.html

We've seen how fast and loose the label of nazi has been applied, while there were a few there, not all of them were, Trump was accurate, but the left simply wishes to paint targets on peoples backs because their violence is always excused and swept under the rug. While democrats who control the cities where violence just so happens to be allowed to run out of control are never examined, because the truth is they benefit from violence, always have, always w.

More on that. The shooter was real POS but I am not really seeing the Trump connection here. Do you have a REPUTABLE source for your claim?

Clayton P. Carter III, the man prosecutors say shot and killed his next-door neighbor Tuesday in Chester County, had a history of violence that spanned nearly two decades — including another altercation with a neighbor, according to court documents.


In 1998, Carter drove his pickup truck through the front of his in-laws’ West Goshen home, the one he would later move into in order to care for them, court records show. In Lancaster County in 2012, Carter allegedly punched a neighbor in the face after a confrontation with her and her boyfriend.

Carter’s attorney, Terrence J. Marlowem stressed that the 1998 incident was reduced to a summary offense and said the District Attorney’s Office decided not to prosecute the 2012 assault because the woman had attacked Carter.


The criminal complaints provide more insight into the 51-year-old retired mobile home park owner, who faces murder charges in the death of George Brooks Jennings, also 51. Prosecutors say Carter shot and killed Jennings after a confrontation over a spotlight. Carter’s attorney said his client was attacked and acted in self-defense.

A few years ago, Carter moved in next door to the Jennings family on the 300 block of Box Elder Drive in West Goshen and began to torment the family, particularly the husband and father, Jennings, as well as other neighbors, according to Jennings’ brother-in-law Steve Oliver.

A man living at the home with Carter declined to comment this week.

A criminal complaint shows that nearly 20 years ago at the same house, Carter’s anger boiled over — that time, toward Carter’s father-in-law, William Magill.

After midnight on Jan. 11, 1998, Carter called his in-laws’ home twice from a car phone. A few minutes later, Magill told police he heard a car ramming the front of his house several times, according to the complaint.

Standing at the top of the stairs with a golf club in hand, Magill said he watched Carter get out of his blue Chevrolet pickup truck, which was now inside the home, and come up the stairs toward him. Carter knocked the golf club out of Magill’s hand and shoved him a couple times, asking where Carter’s daughter was, according to the complaint.

Marlowe, who also represented Carter in 1998, said Carter’s daughter was then a newborn and the wife and baby had moved in with her parents, the Magills.

When police arrived at the Box Elder Drive home, they found Carter’s truck crashed through the front of the house, causing extensive damage to the front door, exterior wall, and living room. On the front lawn, police saw several tire tracks and an uprooted tree, according to the complaint.

As police approached the damaged front door, Carter walked out and said, “I know what I did, arrest me.” Police asked whether the truck was his. “Yes,” Carter responded, “I came to get my daughter,” according to the complaint.

Carter never denied driving the car into the home, Marlowe said.

When police later asked Carter if he was suicidal, Carter, then 32, said “No, I just want my daughter,” according to the complaint.

Carter was arraigned on felony charges of aggravated assault, criminal trespassing, and criminal mischief, as well as lesser charges. These charges were ultimately reduced to a summary offense, and Marlowe said Carter paid an agreed-upon penalty.

Since it occurred almost two decades ago, Marlowe said, he did not recall too many specifics about the case.

Fourteen years later — and 40 miles away in Leola, Lancaster County — Carter, who lived there at the time, was arrested again after a dispute with a couple in a neighboring home.

Around noon on Sept. 9, 2012, a woman called police to report that she was being attacked by Carter. When police arrived at her residence, she told them Carter had confronted her boyfriend on their property and then started to fight him. She said Carter punched her in the face and chased her around the property, according to the complaint.


She told police Carter hit her in the head again as she spoke with 911 dispatchers. The woman had a bruise on her face, a swollen lip, and a bleeding scratch on her arm, according to the complaint.

The woman told police Carter had also stolen a key to a lawnmower and weed whacker she had been using. When police spoke with Carter, he admitted to striking the woman. He said he was attempting to retrieve a hat that she had stolen from him, according to the complaint.

Carter was charged with two misdemeanor counts of simple assault. Marlowe, who also represented Carter in a later part of this case, said authorities decided not to prosecute Carter because the woman had attacked him.

Two months later, that woman was charged with making a false report in a different Lancaster County township. That charge was reduced to a lesser offense, and it was unclear Friday whether it was related to the Carter altercation. She could not be reached for comment.

In West Goshen, police said they had encountered Carter seven times since January.

Carter moved into the Box Elder Drive home several years ago to care for his in-laws, according to Marlowe. Carter’s mother-in-law died in 2013, but his father-in-law and wife still reside at the home. Carter has one daughter, according to Marlowe.

Carter remained jailed without bail Friday at Chester County Prison. His preliminary hearing is scheduled for Aug. 24.

A funeral service for Jennings will be held at 9 a.m. Monday at Westminster Presbyterian Church in West Chester. A GoFundMe page was created Wednesday to support Jennings’ wife, Jill, and his 9-year-old son, Matthew; by Friday it had raised nearly $12,000.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/c...sed-west-goshen-neighbor-killer-20170811.html
 
It's all about future votes. Period.

Trump didn't want to come down so pointedly on Nazis that his disdain would splash onto his core of white supporters who were marching with whoever supports him. The man doesn't have a principle in his being - everything is about votes, winning, staying "popular" with the people who support him. He really doesn't care who they are or what anyone else thinks.

Having drawn this distinction, Trump could portray what happened in Charlottesville not as a battle over racism but instead as a clash between two equally legitimate political factions..

Again, prove they were all nazi's, not just the cherry picked white nationalists, because they weren't even all that.

He demonstrated principle by not bending to the mindless liberal narrative, he did not feed those baying for blood by putting targets on peoples backs, not that they would have rewarded him in any way for appeasing them.

After all, these are the people who pretend he's a nazi, while ignoring that most of his grand children will be jewish.
 
Ok, I found a different site.

Clayton Carter, whose lawn was covered in "hand lettered anti-Trump signs," the local ABC affiliate reported, allegedly shot Brooks Jennings around 1:00 a.m. on Tuesday. Police charged Carter with first-degree murder.

Carter and Jennings apparently had a long history of disputes. Local media say these disputes were personal rather than political.

Apparently this was a killing based on the killer being a POS, not based on any particular ideology.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...rged-with-shooting-neighbor-twice-in-the-head
 
No it's not ok. And?
That's the violence the "unite the right" crowd is using, and it won't stop there.

The biggest problem I see here is the lack of Cons condemning this behaviour.

From legitimate accounts, the totalitarian's came ready to fight and initiated violence. And here were have a POTUS who is cool with that.
 
Again, prove they were all nazi's, not just the cherry picked white nationalists, because they weren't even all that.

He demonstrated principle by not bending to the mindless liberal narrative, not that they would have rewarded him in any way for appeasing them.

After all, these are the people who pretend he's a nazi, while ignoring that most of his grand children will be jewish.

Signs that you might be a NAZI....
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Again, prove they were all nazi's, not just the cherry picked white nationalists, because they weren't even all that.

He demonstrated principle by not bending to the mindless liberal narrative, he did not feed those baying for blood by putting targets on peoples backs, not that they would have rewarded him in any way for appeasing them.

After all, these are the people who pretend he's a nazi, while ignoring that most of his grand children will be jewish.
Trump ain't a nazi, he's using marketing skills to play the nazis to get what he wants, at the expense of all americans.
 
Ok, I found a different site.



Apparently this was a killing based on the killer being a POS, not based on any particular ideology.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/a...rged-with-shooting-neighbor-twice-in-the-head

Of course ideology is involved, clearly radicalized by the left to violence. You know very well what the headline would be if the situation were reversed.



And going by your own standard, the charlotte murderer was also just another mentally ill pos because sorry, that story still doesn't add up. That isn't the kind of vehicle one would choose if one were serious about such things, as evidenced by the muslims "trucks of peace".
 
Again, prove they were all nazi's, not just the cherry picked white nationalists, because they weren't even all that.

He demonstrated principle by not bending to the mindless liberal narrative, he did not feed those baying for blood by putting targets on peoples backs, not that they would have rewarded him in any way for appeasing them.

After all, these are the people who pretend he's a nazi, while ignoring that most of his grand children will be jewish.

Yup, there I was, marching shoulder to shoulder with people shouting Klan/ Nazi slogans but it didn't bother me because I was there to preserve muh Southern Heritage! It was a matter of principle!
 
That's the violence the "unite the right" crowd is using, and it won't stop there.

The biggest problem I see here is the lack of Cons condemning this behaviour.

From legitimate accounts, the totalitarian's came ready to fight and initiated violence. And here were have a POTUS who is cool with that.
Ok. Do you think preemptively attacking them is the best solution to this? And seeing as antifa's tactics didn't stop it, do you think they need to be more violent next time?
 
Ok. Do you think preemptively attacking them is the best solution to this? And seeing as antifa's tactics didn't stop it, do you think they need to be more violent next time?
I think the violence is going to escalate until we get some real leadership in the Oval office.

Preemptively attacking who?
 
Again, prove they were all nazi's, not just the cherry picked white nationalists, because they weren't even all that.

He demonstrated principle by not bending to the mindless liberal narrative, he did not feed those baying for blood by putting targets on peoples backs, not that they would have rewarded him in any way for appeasing them.

After all, these are the people who pretend he's a nazi, while ignoring that most of his grand children will be jewish.
Again go watch the Vice News in bed coverage of the event. You'll answer your own question.
 
Ok. Do you think preemptively attacking them is the best solution to this? And seeing as antifa's tactics didn't stop it, do you think they need to be more violent next time?

you didn't ask me, but what i'd like to see is a lot more Americans joining the counter protesters and completely overwhelming the nazis, white nationalists, and alt right.

if by accident they all get trampled and died, i wouldn't shed a tear.
 
I think the violence is going to escalate until we get some real leadership in the Oval office.

Preemptively attacking who?
Whether true or not, half the country believe antifa attacked the nazis. And that both sides are "equally bad". And even the appearance of that ruin any moral high ground and derail the debate. It shouldn't even be a debate. Headline should be "nazi assholes", the end.

Even responding with violence counter their goals. It needs to be a carefully planned and calculated PR war. Show up, block the nazis, even provoke them. But make it so clear its impossible to miss that they (nazis) are the violent ones. Nobody from the other side lifted a finger. Nazis are the ones hitting old people. I don't care if it's not "fair" or "right" that way. I care about winning.
 
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