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The Pharmaceutical Companies are Evil

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If you are truly convicted to your cause, then I assume you will refuse all medicine for the rest of your life? No medicine at all, no anesthesia, nothing.

Stick to your insane cause if you really believe it.
 
I work for a Pharmaceutical company. I don't think it is any more or less evil than any other corporation.

IMO, the Medical Insurance agencies are much more evil.
 
Electric Amish said:
I work for a Pharmaceutical company. I don't think it is any more or less evil than any other corporation.

IMO, the Medical Insurance agencies are much more evil.
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People more easily overlook the bad things that their employers do when they draw a paycheck from them (unless those negative actions happen to affect you)
 
Just a reminder that spidey is a corporate whore who cheerled time warner cable trying to cap monthly bandwidth at 40GB.
 
spidey07 said:
If you are truly convicted to your cause, then I assume you will refuse all medicine for the rest of your life? No medicine at all, no anesthesia, nothing.

Stick to your insane cause if you really believe it.
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i never claimed that medication isn't necessary.

the pharmaceutical industry funds researchers to create new diseases/diagnoses for the dsm so they can make a pill for it, market the hell out of it, cover-up its negatives, and profit like crazy.

yeah, it's capitalism and there's nothing wrong with capitalism, but when you're brainwashing an uninformed and unsuspecting public into believing they need something you're selling, it's bullshit.

most of the drugs you see advertised on tv are bullshit drugs that people don't need.

and, yes, the insurance industry is more evil. unfortunately, i still have to play by their rules if i expect to get paid.
 
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I heard this cures cancer.

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eits said:
and, yes, the insurance industry is more evil. unfortunately, i still have to play by their rules if i expect to get paid.
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Then why would you expect us to care about pharmaceutical companies?

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Phokus said:
People more easily overlook the bad things that their employers do when they draw a paycheck from them (unless those negative actions happen to affect you)
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It's like you defeated his argument, before he even made it.

Well played, good sir.
 
eits said:
i never claimed that medication isn't necessary.

the pharmaceutical industry funds researchers to create new diseases/diagnoses for the dsm so they can make a pill for it, market the hell out of it, cover-up its negatives, and profit like crazy.

yeah, it's capitalism and there's nothing wrong with capitalism, but when you're brainwashing an uninformed and unsuspecting public into believing they need something you're selling, it's bullshit.

most of the drugs you see advertised on tv are bullshit drugs that people don't need.

and, yes, the insurance industry is more evil. unfortunately, i still have to play by their rules if i expect to get paid.
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Yeah, screw chemotherapy drugs for cancer.
 
Capt Caveman said:
Yeah, screw chemotherapy drugs for cancer.
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And anti-retroviral drugs for AIDS

And drugs that cure river blindness

And corticosteroids that completely eliminated my hayfever after I had suffered with it for nearly thirty years

And L Dopa for Parkinsons



All just snake oil. 🙄
 
spidey07 said:
If you are truly convicted to your cause, then I assume you will refuse all medicine for the rest of your life? No medicine at all, no anesthesia, nothing.
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Your implication, of course, is nonsense. There's nothing illegitimate about seeking actually necessary medications from companies that foist other unnecessary medications on a suggestible public.

Stick to your insane cause if you really believe it.
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To suggest we should not concern ourselves with the proliferation of questionable pharmaceutical remedies simply because some pharmaceutical companies have produced widely necessary medications is actual lunacy. You might as well try to argue that Jeffrey Dahmer should be acquitted because he helped an old lady take out her trash once. Bad people and bad companies can still do good things, but that doesn't mean we should not pay attention to when they may do bad things.

Of course, if you're a raving lunatic Republican like spidey07 the subtlties of rational thinking certainly elude you.
 
So those evil pharmaceutical companies are holding a gun to somebody's head and forcing them to take this unnecessary medication? Who's to blame?

I say it's the stupidity of people, not the company. The business of business is to make money. Repeat it after me until it sinks in - the business of business is to make money.
 
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like i said, there's a need for medicine. it's just the bullshit drugs out there that there isn't a need for.

has anyone even watched the video in the op?
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And many people feel the same about alternative "techniques" that claim to cure anything that ails the human body and/or soul. Sorry chap, cracking my back isn't going to cure cancer.
 
spidey07 said:
So those evil pharmaceutical companies are holding a gun to somebody's head and forcing them to take this unnecessary medication? Who's to blame?

I say it's the stupidity of people, not the company. The business of business is to make money. Repeat it after me until it sinks in - the business of business is to make money.
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hehehe...
wait were you serious?
Are you INSANE son?

You're essentially saying making money is more important than peoples lives. Here's a clue for the unethical scumbags like you:

It's not up to the people who do not have medical degrees to decide what drug to take for their illness. It's unethical for pharma companies to bribe doctors to prescribe their drug especially for an illness it does not treat.
 
eits said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TwdsYVHjGA

pretty sad that it takes a foreign news outlet to uncover something our OWN media outlets should make a big deal about.
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It is not only in the US. In most of the European countries from which i know this occurs, exclusive deals are made between insurance companies and medicines manufacturers. And between insurance companies and doctors or general practitioners. And between medicine manufacturers and hospitals.
This created situations where doctors or general practitioners subscribed medicines known to cause severe side effects. Why ? These medicines where more cheap to produce, to sell, as such make more profits yada, yada, yada. Other situations occurred where medicine manufacturers made deals with hospitals in the Netherlands about exclusive contracts of only using one type of medicine : The medicine produced but the medicine manufacturer.

These wrong practices where covered in the news a lot and caused a lot of people to move away from the mentioned insurance companies or stay away from the hospitals.

Afcourse it is not forbidden for insurance companies to promote cheaper medicines as long the general practitioners and the hospitals are free to subscribe or use the more expensive ones in case of side effects on a per patient basis. The medicine manufacturers argue they would rather have exclusive contracts. It is obvious it has nothing to do with what is best for the patient, no it is about maximizing profits.

There was a court case in 2006 in the Netherlands between insurance company Menzis and Pfizer,Merck,AstraZeneca about these practices.

Makes you wonder does it not ? :hmm:
 
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disappoint said:
hehehe...
wait were you serious?
Are you INSANE son?

You're essentially saying making money is more important than peoples lives. Here's a clue for the unethical scumbags like you:

It's not up to the people who do not have medical degrees to decide what drug to take for their illness. It's unethical for pharma companies to bribe doctors to prescribe their drug especially for an illness it does not treat.
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It is illegal to market a drug for illnesses it doesn't treat. Same for pushing docs to do the same.
 
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