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The people did NOT vote for Trump

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I'm surprised nobody has posted this yet, but it should be noted that NEITHER candidate won the majority of the vote.

At last count, Clinton got 47.7% and Trump got 47.5% of the vote. Last I checked, 48% isn't a majority.
 
Apparently there is a movement to eliminate the popular vote.

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

They have gotten 10 states to sign up and 160 electoral votes. Basically, this is how it works.
1) States sign up and promise to pledge all electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote
2) Get 270 EC votes worth of states to sign up

I implore you to check out the website and pester your representatives with emails (there is a pre-filled and pre-destined letter you can send on the website) and maybe your state will sign on!
 
flexy said:
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Yeah? Minds can't change?

Is the TPP the gold standard?

Did she have classified emails?

Are you guys butthurt?
 
Leyawiin said:
The winner take all mechanics of the Electoral College probably doesn't affect the total number of popular votes (most are going to vote for whom you like regardless of it "counting" or not).
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I actually think that the "winner take all" mechanics, is a separate issue from the EC's proportional representation. Winner-take-all, is AFAIK a state voting law, and that can be changed, so that states could be "part red, part blue", when it comes to the EC, depending on their voting districts. Correct me if I'm wrong, if you have detailed knowledge about this.

Edit: And OH, doesn't "The Don" know that we DON'T live in a Democracy, we live in a Republic.
 
VirtualLarry said:
I actually think that the "winner take all" mechanics, is a separate issue from the EC's proportional representation. Winner-take-all, is AFAIK a state voting law, and that can be changed, so that states could be "part red, part blue", when it comes to the EC, depending on their voting districts. Correct me if I'm wrong, if you have detailed knowledge about this.

Edit: And OH, doesn't "The Don" know that we DON'T live in a Democracy, we live in a Republic.
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Yes as said above

Apparently there is a movement to eliminate the popular vote and its not doing too bad. Mostly seems like getting democratic state houses to sign on should do the trick. If 270 worth of democratic state houses agree to it, then by default the entire race is a popular race.

http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/
 
Eug said:
I'm surprised nobody has posted this yet, but it should be noted that NEITHER candidate won the majority of the vote.

At last count, Clinton got 47.7% and Trump got 47.5% of the vote. Last I checked, 48% isn't a majority.
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Bill Clinton never did either.
 
VirtualLarry said:
I actually think that the "winner take all" mechanics, is a separate issue from the EC's proportional representation. Winner-take-all, is AFAIK a state voting law, and that can be changed, so that states could be "part red, part blue", when it comes to the EC, depending on their voting districts. Correct me if I'm wrong, if you have detailed knowledge about this.

Edit: And OH, doesn't "The Don" know that we DON'T live in a Democracy, we live in a Republic.
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There are some who apportion their votes differently, but, unless a large amount of states are doing it proportionately, going proportional is a good way to make your state's votes not count for much of anything.
 
I think the way to look at this is that wherever there were voters being pursued by both campaigns, Trump did better. The voters that are now putting Hillary over the top weren't fought for by either side.
 
Of course, having the stronghold of the U.S West Coast and its huge population is enough to make any Democrat crave a popular vote system. After all, who cares about the flipping of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and their people's wishes when the most populous state the land and its two buddies can overwhelm the opposition easily.
 
Torn Mind said:
Of course, having the stronghold of the U.S West Coast and its huge population is enough to make any Democrat crave a popular vote system. After all, who cares about the flipping of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin and their people's wishes when the most populous state the land and its two buddies can overwhelm the opposition easily.
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What is it you think you are trying to say here? That California's voters don't matter or that Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, voters should matter more?
 
ivwshane said:
What is it you think you are trying to say here? That California's voters don't matter or that Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, voters should matter more?
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Areas with heavy population density can overpower lands with less people. That sphere of power should be limited, and the current system did a good job.

Note that I have no affiliation with any political party, not even third party ones, and Trump has ventured into the realm of idiocy more than once.

Perhaps if the Dems did a better job, they wouldn't have lost states that normally go to them. Michigan and Pennsylvania have spoken that their leadership has not done enough for them. Their voice would not have mattered in a popular vote system. In this case, the current system was better. In another case, it could go the other way.
 
Starbuck1975 said:
Does the same not apply to red voters in blue states? I imagine there were a lot of Trump suppporters in upstate NY and the Inland Empire of SoCal who made a similar choice.
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It's less applicable. They're attributing the win to white evangelicals, who are "encouraged" to vote (and told who to vote for by their religious leaders). They have a 90% turn-out. There aren't many evangelicals of color, their counterpart, operating under that same level of (sinister) influence. The gods are on trump's side, as they were in 2000 with bush. Religion boosts the conservative popular vote count and makes the EC look "fair" or "slightly suspicious" instead of absolutely outrageous. Though in this case iz gud cuz trump.
 
This thread is correct.
Hillary did in fact win the popular vote.
So to me, that 100% totally justifies BLOCKING EVERYTHING Trump wants to do, tries to do, desires to do.
Republicans blocked Obama, and Obama actually won the popular vote. Twice!
Trump DID NOT.
I want to see democrats block every Supreme Court justice Trump nominates, to block every single brick of that wall Trump so wants to build, to block every repeal, every replace, every damn hair on this buffoons orange head.

I do believe America is still the greatest most just and fair nation ever to exist.
And I believe we the freedom for all loving American people will have our payback.
I truly believe the forces of good will rise and take this abomination down, along with every damn idiot that cast their vote for him.
Frankly, I truly believe it will be President Donald Trump himself that will take down his own. He will let them down, abuse their trust, ruin their hopes, and ravage them to their very core.
This is called poetic justice or better know as, payback.
 
trump has the senate and the congress and soon the supreme court. He will do a lot of damage over the next 2 years.
 
Blue_Max said:
Cornell college university students holding a cry-in.

For real. *sigh*

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/29856/
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Cornell enrollment: about 22,000.

Number of students participating: "As the event took place, students — roughly 20 or so, according to the Sun’s video — wrote their reactions and emotions on poster boards with colored markers, or with chalk on the ground."

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There, there, dear. Have a cup of tea with some honey. It's good for the nerves.
 
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