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tweaker2

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I had a neighbor that must've applied for a sensitive federal position as two suits came up to my home and started asking questions about him. Well, I answered them as honestly as I could of which didn't turn out too well for him I guess, as that nieghbor was someone you'd might know as Mr. Dick Pecker because you know, he was such a prick with the neighbors. In a somewhat satisfyingly guilt ridden kind of way I was happy to help rat out the pri those intervewers with some straightforward honest answers.
 

BoomerD

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I had a neighbor that must've applied for a sensitive federal position as two suits came up to my home and started asking questions about him. Well, I answered them as honestly as I could of which didn't turn out too well for him I guess, as that nieghbor was someone you'd might know as Mr. Dick Pecker because you know, he was such a prick with the neighbors. In a somewhat satisfyingly guilt ridden kind of way I was happy to help rat out the pri those intervewers with some straightforward honest answers.

I had two "suits" come right to the county jail to try to hire me...they offered to make all my "troubles" go away if I'd just agree to work for their alphabet agency for a minimum of two years.
I declined and served my sentence.
 

tweaker2

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I had two "suits" come right to the county jail to try to hire me...they offered to make all my "troubles" go away if I'd just agree to work for their alphabet agency for a minimum of two years.
I declined and served my sentence.


Good thing you did. It seems to me with you being incarcerated and such, they were going to exploit your skills and "dump you" the moment you were of no use to them anymore. Jus' say'in.
 
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Meghan54

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I don't know if the interviewers are technically "Law Officers" but I imagine it'd be similar to lying to regular old police and being charged with Obstruction of Justice if/when they find you are lying.

I don't know this for sure, but it's what I imagined to be the case. You don't have to be under oath for police to charge you for lying to them in the course of performing their investigative duties.
In my case, and numerous others, the interviews are FBI field agents. Lie to them and win prizes. 🤪
 
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Pens1566

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In my case, and numerous others, the interviews are FBI field agents. Lie to them and win prizes. 🤪

Are/were you direct govt employee or military? I've only ever been on contractor side, and it's always a non-bureau person.

Doesn't matter either way, I believe the same law applies and penalties are the same.
 
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eelw

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One you think the house intelligence committee chairman would know the difference on granting security clearance between need to know vs support specialist that is in the environment and may be potentially be exposed to classified material. Makes one wonder if congress critters deserve their clearance
 
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Pohemi

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One you think the house intelligence committee chairman would know the difference on granting security clearance between need to know vs support specialist that is in the environment and may be potentially be exposed to classified material. Makes one wonder if congress critters deserve their clearance
Many do not. MANY.

With all the traitors and insurrectionist apologists in there now...some of those imbeciles don't deserve clearance to work in the USPS.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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One you think the house intelligence committee chairman would know the difference on granting security clearance between need to know vs support specialist that is in the environment and may be potentially be exposed to classified material. Makes one wonder if congress critters deserve their clearance
Wait until they find out about the material support specialists are exposed to that shouldn't be because of inappropriate handling by data custodians.
 

Meghan54

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Are/were you direct govt employee or military? I've only ever been on contractor side, and it's always a non-bureau person.

Doesn't matter either way, I believe the same law applies and penalties are the same.
Military—Army specifically. “Recruited” into the ASA (Army Security Agency—overall part of NSA, like all service agencies). Ft Devens to begin with—was pretty good so got singled out for “other enhanced” training, but then my brother got busted for GTA. Got the proverbial visit from 2 guys in dark suits, white shirts and skinny black ties.

Got “thrown out” (thrown out is really too harsh, but I got 15 min to clear my living arts with the FBI and CID/MP’s in tow, so what would u call it?) as security risk, became an audio specialist. Stationed in DC and saw…things. Kept my TS, just lost raw elint access.

F’in asswipe brother.
 
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Exterous

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They must have interviewed several acquaintances, and neighbors. It's not fool proof though. Going through your initial clearance in no walk in the park, and at TS you are supposed to get a Periodic Review (PR) every 5 years. Unfortunately, at the time I retired, my people were backed up like 2 years for their supposed 5 year review, I guess, due to lack of personnel.

Anecdotal but, from my limited experience, the process they use is garbage too. I've been interviewed a couple of times for staff and the planning...well lets just say there hasn't been any. One time they called me day of to ask if I could meet with them. Yeah not going to work because the entire team is remote and I don't have an extra hour in my day to commute just to meet you. The next available day was 3 weeks later. So 3 weeks later I get done with my interview and then they note they have to speak to someone else on the team who knows this person and ask who is available. Same person I talked to who knew my entire team was remote. This person was just incredibly lucky a single other person on my team happened to be in that day. Otherwise it would have been another 2-3 weeks and a round trip from ~2 hours away for the interviewer to complete the process.

I get student temps who are better at planning
 
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Most probably do esp these days, but in my time many did not. For example a Cook, Seaman Gang, A Gang Machinist, Engineman ... etc

On a Submarine ( at least during my time ) everybody gets a turn scrubbing the shitter. Well except the officers.

We also used to load stores by hand where everybody passed food hand to hand into the boat.

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Was it like a fire brigade as in passing one box to the guy next to you or a rotating line like in the picture as in you carried from one end to the other where presumably another dude took the package
 

pcgeek11

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Was it like a fire brigade as in passing one box to the guy next to you or a rotating line like in the picture as in you carried from one end to the other where presumably another dude took the package


Like a bucket brigade. Guy to guy ..... Makes for a long day. Bubbleheads eat well.
 

hal2kilo

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One you think the house intelligence committee chairman would know the difference on granting security clearance between need to know vs support specialist that is in the environment and may be potentially be exposed to classified material. Makes one wonder if congress critters deserve their clearance
It ugly and complicated. If a system is declared at a Secret or TS level, it does not matter if there is data that is unclassified on these systems, everything is treated as at that level of classification. Even if you give them a hundred page white paper describing how it is not possible for classified data to be released from a part of the system, if that system has a network, and is connected to another network, they will NEVER believe it's not possible for classified data to be acquired from that part of the system. They believe in magic.
Edit: These are the same people who think USB memory devices are the devil, but CD's, not so much.
 
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Roger Wilco

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Shocked I tell you.



Air Force officials caught Airman Jack Teixeira taking notes and conducting deep-dive searches for classified material months before he was charged with leaking a vast trove of government secrets, but did not remove him from his job, according to a Justice Department filing on Wednesday.

On two occasions in September and October 2022, Airman Teixeira’s superiors in the Massachusetts Air National Guard admonished him after reports that he had taken “concerning actions” while handling classified information. Those included stuffing a note into his pocket after reviewing secret information inside his unit, according to a court filing ahead of a hearing before a federal magistrate judge in Worcester, Mass., on Friday to determine whether he should be released on bail.

Airman Teixeira — who until March shared secrets with scores of online friends from around the world on Discord, a social media platform popular with gamers — “was instructed to no longer take notes in any form on classified intelligence information,” lawyers with the department’s national security division wrote in an 11-page memo arguing for his indefinite detention.”
 

hal2kilo

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Shocked I tell you.



Air Force officials caught Airman Jack Teixeira taking notes and conducting deep-dive searches for classified material months before he was charged with leaking a vast trove of government secrets, but did not remove him from his job, according to a Justice Department filing on Wednesday.

On two occasions in September and October 2022, Airman Teixeira’s superiors in the Massachusetts Air National Guard admonished him after reports that he had taken “concerning actions” while handling classified information. Those included stuffing a note into his pocket after reviewing secret information inside his unit, according to a court filing ahead of a hearing before a federal magistrate judge in Worcester, Mass., on Friday to determine whether he should be released on bail.

Airman Teixeira — who until March shared secrets with scores of online friends from around the world on Discord, a social media platform popular with gamers — “was instructed to no longer take notes in any form on classified intelligence information,” lawyers with the department’s national security division wrote in an 11-page memo arguing for his indefinite detention.”
I hope his supervisors get at least retired. Sooner rather than later.
 

Pohemi

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One of my more conspiratorial acquaintances was telling me he thought that the kid's superiors allowed him to continue stealing the classified info so they could track where it was going and who it was being given to.

I told him to stop watching spy movies before bed, lol.
 

zinfamous

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Indicted on six counts of retention and transmission of classified information related to national defense. I think he's been in custody since his arrest.


amazing how the motivations for this actual shit-idiot child and the 78 year-old shit-idiot orange mental child for compromising national security are exactly the same:

bragging to some other dumb fucking idiots about "things they can do" (oh ...and of course profit. Yeah. The second one actually cleared at least $2 billion from the nation that attacked New York on 9-11. minimally. )

but you know. the second one is not bad and totally normal.

let's see, I guess.