The origins of life?

BigToque

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I understand the basics of biology and chemistry. I understand how different elements are attracted to each other to each other.

What I don't understand is how these elements which are nothing special on their own, came together in such a way that it became "alive". I can understand everything that happens after it's alive. It's just confuses me how "life" is created at all.

With that, why are we all carbon based life forms. I've heard that silicon isvery similar, so why were we not silicon based? Why is nothing alive silicon based?
 

GTaudiophile

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1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning?the first day.

6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning?the second day.

9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning?the third day.

14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights?the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning?the fourth day.

20 And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." 23 And there was evening, and there was morning?the fifth day.

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground?everything that has the breath of life in it?I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning?the sixth day.


:D :p :)
 

robothouse77

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i think that there is some theory that lightning stricking some type of fluid could start it. i think they replicated this in the lab, but then again, that could be all made up.
 

meltdown75

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agh... noes!!

is it just me or do certain members have a penchant for posting all the controversial threads?!


:p
 

GTaudiophile

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I think it's interesting that there was light before God created the sun, moon, stars, etc. on the fourth day...ever notice that?
 

BigToque

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning?the first day.

6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning?the second day.

9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning?the third day.

14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights?the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning?the fourth day.

20 And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." 23 And there was evening, and there was morning?the fifth day.

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground?everything that has the breath of life in it?I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning?the sixth day.


:D :p :)

I don't discount the possibility that what you posted may be true, but I'd like to hear what non-theists believe. I already know the (Christian) religious POV :)
 

GTaudiophile

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BTW, I hardly believe that the creation of the universe happened in 6 days, much less how Genesis describes it.

But I also don't believe in this evolution thing that says that the only difference between man and an amoeba is 6 billion years of development.
 

BigToque

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
BTW, I hardly believe that the creation of the universe happened in 6 days, much less how Genesis describes it.

But I also don't believe in this evolution thing that says that the only difference between man and an amoeba is 6 billion years of development.

Well, 6 billion years is a fairly long time, considering we only live to about 100 tops :D (much shorter early on)
 

shilala

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It's unknown, that's why no one has told you about it.
Creationists believe in a divine influence, so do I. Evolutionists believe things evolved through a series of mutations. So do I.
I don't know where it started, but it did. Maybe someday I'll find out.
 

FoBoT

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martians seeded earth with biological matter after their planet was destroyed by a meteor impact and they had to go to another solar system
 

broon

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
BTW, I hardly believe that the creation of the universe happened in 6 days, much less how Genesis describes it.

But I also don't believe in this evolution thing that says that the only difference between man and an amoeba is 6 billion years of development.

Six days should not be taken literally.

Many evolutionists are coming to the conclusion that Creation and Evolution worked together. At least that there is some higher power that kindof helped evolution.
 

alien42

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afawk there could easily be silicon based lifeforms out there. it is also reasonable to understand that what you dont understand is beyond the power of any human mind.
 

PanzerIV

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Originally posted by: alien42
it is also reasonable to understand that what you dont understand is beyond the power of any human mind.

Finally someone else who realizes this.
 

jjones

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The primordial soup was left out too long and became moldy. If it had been properly refridgerated none of this would have ever happened. I blame the celestial maid.
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: broon
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
BTW, I hardly believe that the creation of the universe happened in 6 days, much less how Genesis describes it.

But I also don't believe in this evolution thing that says that the only difference between man and an amoeba is 6 billion years of development.

Six days should not be taken literally.

Many evolutionists are coming to the conclusion that Creation and Evolution worked together. At least that there is some higher power that kindof helped evolution.

Many evolutionists are coming to the conclusion that creationists are spewing BS about evolutionists coming to that conclusion.
 

akubi

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Originally posted by: broon
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
BTW, I hardly believe that the creation of the universe happened in 6 days, much less how Genesis describes it.

But I also don't believe in this evolution thing that says that the only difference between man and an amoeba is 6 billion years of development.

Six days should not be taken literally.

Many evolutionists are coming to the conclusion that Creation and Evolution worked together. At least that there is some higher power that kindof helped evolution.

so since god created man in his own image, does that make god some giant single celled amoeba?
 

broon

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Many evolutionists are coming to the conclusion that creationists are spewing BS about evolutionists coming to that conclusion.

That may be. But if I'm not a creationist...
 

alien42

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Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
it started when you were born and will end when you die.

you sure about that? you have proof that the end and beginning arent the same thing?