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cmdrdredd

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The picture of the adapter shows only 1 plug. How vcan it do 3.5mm if it was designed to accommodate the 2.5mm 360 headset connection? This is what I am confused on now.


Dies anyone know if it ships with an adapter for 2.5mm then?
 
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smackababy

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The picture of the adapter shows only 1 plug. How vcan it do 3.5mm if it was designed to accommodate the 2.5mm 360 headset connection? This is what I am confused on now.


Dies anyone know if it ships with an adapter for 2.5mm then?

Idk. Maybe the article has it wrong (as I originally did) and the connector is 2.5mm.
 

cmdrdredd

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Idk. Maybe the article has it wrong (as I originally did) and the connector is 2.5mm.

Now that I got home I see the article posted links to an MS product page and right at the bottom of the page it says it does come with a 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter.

Includes 2.5mm to 3.5mm adapter to enable a stereo Xbox 360 wired headset to work with Xbox One

So now I understand what this adapter is doing.
 

purbeast0

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it's kind of dumb to be complaining about the price of the adapter being $25 when you could go make your own for $6. you aren't paying simply for the parts, you're paying for the parts, labor to build them, and the r&d.

you could also go kill your own chicken and grow your own fruits, but we pay more at the store because it's convenient. same with building pc's or purchasing one from dell, and pretty much any other industry out there.
 

cmdrdredd

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it's kind of dumb to be complaining about the price of the adapter being $25 when you could go make your own for $6. you aren't paying simply for the parts, you're paying for the parts, labor to build them, and the r&d.

you could also go kill your own chicken and grow your own fruits, but we pay more at the store because it's convenient. same with building pc's or purchasing one from dell, and pretty much any other industry out there.

Labor to build? You can build the adapter necessary in under 10 minutes. I don't care about the box or the buttons. My mic mutes when I push it up and turns on when I pull it down, my headset has it's own volume control.

I feel $25 is overpriced for what it does.
 
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Labor to build? You can build the adapter necessary in under 10 minutes. I don't care about the box or the buttons. My mic mutes when I push it up and turns on when I pull it down, my headset has it's own volume control.

I feel $25 is overpriced for what it does.

Like the person said that you replied to. You can kill the chicken. That's what you did. People shouldn't complain for having the butcher do it for you though.

An XBone is what? $400 or $500? And games $60? So spending $25 is some sort of travesty?
 
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smackababy

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not bad but seems about what I expected. Gonna wait and see what happens at launch...how the people who do BF4 on PC feel about it etc.

After watching more (and a few others playing), it looks like it is a mix between Halo and COD. The mechs seem are similar to kill streaks, but function like Halo vehicles. They are powerful, but easily destroyed and easy to "hijack". I am for sure going to be getting it. The maps in the beta look pretty good and the action looks like it is non stop. I hope I get into the beta, but that will cut down the time for my WildStar beta as well. =(
 

Todd33

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Like the person said that you replied to. You can kill the chicken. That's what you did. People shouldn't complain for having the butcher do it for you though.

Did the butcher engineer the chickens so they meat is only edible when you use a knife sold by the butcher?
 

cmdrdredd

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Like the person said that you replied to. You can kill the chicken. That's what you did. People shouldn't complain for having the butcher do it for you though.

An XBone is what? $400 or $500? And games $60? So spending $25 is some sort of travesty?

For an adapter absolutely it's too high of an asking price. It's nearly half the cost of a controller and if it was the 360, it would be more than half the cost.
 

EightySix Four

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Woo boy, Xbox One got its ass kicked in January according to NPD. Pretty disappointing. I'd really like to see a better marketing campaign about its media features, every one of my friends who comes by is blown away by the TV stuff and instant switch to game.
 

Arkaign

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Woo boy, Xbox One got its ass kicked in January according to NPD. Pretty disappointing. I'd really like to see a better marketing campaign about its media features, every one of my friends who comes by is blown away by the TV stuff and instant switch to game.

Really? I got to babysit my brother's XB1 when he was on a cruise, and couldn't find any of my friends who cared about it. I spent the most time with KI, but the so-called media features were bunk to me. I have an HTPC and a high end AVR though, so the switching is pointless to me anyway, my AVR does it better by a pretty huge margin. Just to be funny, I put the HTPC through the XB1 to see the processing lag, and sure enough it was enough to make gaming an impossibility, and also had some weird audio problems.

As a game box, it's okay. For someone who is okay with a paywall world of focused media, it's okay. I just can't see many people caring that much though when the games are the reason to spend $500 on the thing. Forza is okay, COD is god awful, NBA 14 was pretty cool really (and looked just as good as the PS4 version for a change), didn't load Tomb Raider as I already did that on PC, but KI was honestly pretty good.

As a pure games box, it's $100 too expensive at the moment, and it's a hard sell with features that are mostly already covered :

Netflix? You can play that with a cereal box these days.
Movies? Ditto.
TV? Ditto.
Music? Actually better on many other platforms.

Games are what will make or break the XB1 long term. And long term, it should do just fine. It's not going to ever be the US super leader like the 360 was, but it will be a solid near-tie or a very respectable 2nd place (like Genesis to the SNES in the 16-bit era).

The hype over the non-gaming features reminds me EXACTLY over the over-hype on tablets after the iPad got popular. "Oh, everything else will go away, nobody will have laptops or PCs ever again?" Yeah, makes perfect sense until people think about it for half a second and realize that typing or working on an iPad is about as user friendly and efficient as juggling cats.

The particularly stupid thing is that the PS4 does 95% of the so-called non-gaming features. Streaming video, movies, games, apps, voice recognition, blabbity blah. Can't switch or do picture in picture on there? BFD, change your input.

Things for XB1 should really start shaping up this fall, and things will really accelerate when it's down to the $299 range.
 

EightySix Four

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Really? I got to babysit my brother's XB1 when he was on a cruise, and couldn't find any of my friends who cared about it. I spent the most time with KI, but the so-called media features were bunk to me. I have an HTPC and a high end AVR though, so the switching is pointless to me anyway, my AVR does it better by a pretty huge margin. Just to be funny, I put the HTPC through the XB1 to see the processing lag, and sure enough it was enough to make gaming an impossibility, and also had some weird audio problems.

As a game box, it's okay. For someone who is okay with a paywall world of focused media, it's okay. I just can't see many people caring that much though when the games are the reason to spend $500 on the thing. Forza is okay, COD is god awful, NBA 14 was pretty cool really (and looked just as good as the PS4 version for a change), didn't load Tomb Raider as I already did that on PC, but KI was honestly pretty good.

As a pure games box, it's $100 too expensive at the moment, and it's a hard sell with features that are mostly already covered :

Netflix? You can play that with a cereal box these days.
Movies? Ditto.
TV? Ditto.
Music? Actually better on many other platforms.

Games are what will make or break the XB1 long term. And long term, it should do just fine. It's not going to ever be the US super leader like the 360 was, but it will be a solid near-tie or a very respectable 2nd place (like Genesis to the SNES in the 16-bit era).

The hype over the non-gaming features reminds me EXACTLY over the over-hype on tablets after the iPad got popular. "Oh, everything else will go away, nobody will have laptops or PCs ever again?" Yeah, makes perfect sense until people think about it for half a second and realize that typing or working on an iPad is about as user friendly and efficient as juggling cats.

The particularly stupid thing is that the PS4 does 95% of the so-called non-gaming features. Streaming video, movies, games, apps, voice recognition, blabbity blah. Can't switch or do picture in picture on there? BFD, change your input.

Things for XB1 should really start shaping up this fall, and things will really accelerate when it's down to the $299 range.

We'll see. I'm not sure what it is about my use case that seems to fit with the Xbox One so well, but as an "occasional hardcore gamer" it fits into my life style perfectly. Switching from TV back into a game instantly has let me get in significantly more gaming than I did with my Xbox 360 which always felt like a bit of a hassle even if it really wasn't.

I'm not really concerned about it, but I did want to see it be successful in the long run. It will still get the exclusives MS pays for and all the major cross platform games will continue to launch on it as well. I still wish MS would have stuck with the "Steam" model of games, I think it would be a better console for it. I was really looking forward to family sharing.
 

Arkaign

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Oh definitely, the XB1 will do just fine. I have absolutely no doubt about that. Technical BS aside, the games WILL be there, and the price WILL come down, and people WILL move on from their 360s and PS3s.

I just think the gaming will be the story, not the rest of the mumbo jumbo that got a bunch of hype.

There's also no technical reason they couldn't implement a digital-distribution mode for the XB1 in an opt-in fashion. No reason at all. You should be grateful they didn't stick with it though, XB1 would have been straight murdered if they had. Hell, I used to have Fios Quantum, but after moving, the best I can get in my new house is super shoddy cable. A digital Steam model would have blown serious chunks for me, and tens of millions of others. It's so bad that when I buy a new game, I take my laptop to one of my clients with an OC so I can get it at 250mbit. At home I get 1-5mbit depending on how grumpy the lines are. It's this or 1.5mbit 'uverse' (in fact, rebranded DSL with a very disingenuous name).
 

jpiniero

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Woo boy, Xbox One got its ass kicked in January according to NPD. Pretty disappointing. I'd really like to see a better marketing campaign about its media features, every one of my friends who comes by is blown away by the TV stuff and instant switch to game.

That's pretty surprising considering the PS4 is still even now supply constrained. It's time to cut the price of the console.
 

EightySix Four

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Oh definitely, the XB1 will do just fine. I have absolutely no doubt about that. Technical BS aside, the games WILL be there, and the price WILL come down, and people WILL move on from their 360s and PS3s.

I just think the gaming will be the story, not the rest of the mumbo jumbo that got a bunch of hype.

There's also no technical reason they couldn't implement a digital-distribution mode for the XB1 in an opt-in fashion. No reason at all. You should be grateful they didn't stick with it though, XB1 would have been straight murdered if they had. Hell, I used to have Fios Quantum, but after moving, the best I can get in my new house is super shoddy cable. A digital Steam model would have blown serious chunks for me, and tens of millions of others. It's so bad that when I buy a new game, I take my laptop to one of my clients with an OC so I can get it at 250mbit. At home I get 1-5mbit depending on how grumpy the lines are. It's this or 1.5mbit 'uverse' (in fact, rebranded DSL with a very disingenuous name).

That was the point of the physical discs, they were just an installation medium for people who don't have the net connection to support it.
 

Wingznut

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... but the so-called media features were bunk to me.
What's awesome about it, is how seamlessly you can switch from game to TV to Netflix and back to game, instantly picking up precisely where you left off.

That's the big benefit to the HDMI passthrough.
 

Arkaign

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That was the point of the physical discs, they were just an installation medium for people who don't have the net connection to support it.

In my case, the internet isn't even reliable. And I'm a lucky one, a number of my friends on the 380 corridor have no home internet at all. It's hughes net (expensive garbage satellite service) or nothing. So they just use LTE, but that's impossible to efficiently utilize for much without hitting caps. REALLY expensive caps.
 

Arkaign

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What's awesome about it, is how seamlessly you can switch from game to TV to Netflix and back to game, instantly picking up precisely where you left off.

That's the big benefit to the HDMI passthrough.

I could see that being okay for some people.

I almost never watch broadcast TV, and I'm not one of the ADD/ADHD people :) When I watch a show, I've got it streaming through my HTPC, and I only pause it because of some interruption, never switch from it because I have no reason to. And when I play a game, I start and finish my session, at worst I quicksave at a point where I'd rather not. I can't think of any time in my life where I have, or even wanted to, jump back and forth between gaming and TV. Or TV show and a movie, or what have you.

The most ADD thing I might do is use my smartphone to IMDB an actor/director while I'm watching something, but that's pretty rare.

None of my opinion means much of anything to anyone else, and that's fine (in fact, that's how it should be). But I do firmly believe that all of the vaunted non-gaming features don't make a hill of beans in the big picture of game consoles. It's stuff that is potentially nice to have for the right customer, but when it comes down to it, you buy the console that has the games you want to play, period.

If you're a KI fan, you have to have the XB1. Etc.
 

Wingznut

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I almost never watch broadcast TV, and I'm not one of the ADD/ADHD people :) When I watch a show, I've got it streaming through my HTPC, and I only pause it because of some interruption, never switch from it because I have no reason to. And when I play a game, I start and finish my session, at worst I quicksave at a point where I'd rather not. I can't think of any time in my life where I have, or even wanted to, jump back and forth between gaming and TV. Or TV show and a movie, or what have you.
I'll give you a good example. I'm playing Tomb Raider. My family comes in and says "Let's watch Breaking Bad" (on the DVR.) I pause my game, watch the show, and then pick up in the game exactly where I left off. It's a really really nice feature. Like you said, not a console defining feature. But it's better to have the feature than not have, imho.

But then again... You and I, who have a HTPC hooked up to our TV's, we are an overwhelming minority. I'm sure the passthrough and media features are more significant to many other people.
... but when it comes down to it, you buy the console that has the games you want to play, period.
I absolutely agree 100%.
 

Lil Frier

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I just can't see many people caring that much though when the games are the reason to spend $500 on the thing. Forza is okay, COD is god awful, NBA 14 was pretty cool really (and looked just as good as the PS4 version for a change), didn't load Tomb Raider as I already did that on PC, but KI was honestly pretty good.

I think those points are REALLY hard to compare to the PS4, though.

Forza: Nothing's on the PS4 to compete right now, and Driveclub has no release date.
CoD: Even if you dislike it (and I dislike the Infinity Ward side of it as much as anyone), the alternatives aren't there. Battlefield's been a mess for months. Killzone got so-so reviews. The alternatives become Titanfall and Halo two Xbox console exclusives.

The only time you get a REAL advantage for the PS4, in my opinion, is MLB The Show. The Uncharted and Infamous stuff doesn't entice me, and it's not like Microsoft won't offer anything of that style anyway. But my point is mostly that while you might not like Forza or CoD, the two main things selling on the One, Sony's not going to give you alternatives to it with their console. the easiest way to put it is that if you like shooters, the One is likely to be your preferred console.
 

cmdrdredd

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That was the point of the physical discs, they were just an installation medium for people who don't have the net connection to support it.

Except even with the disks you had to check in online all the time. There are times after a storm where cable is out for days here in south FL but the power might be on. Or like recently I went for two weeks with an off and on connection before they finally fixed it.