The Official Xbox One Thread

[AMDZen]

I just bought a brand new Seagate 3 TB drive that failed 6 months after purchase. Needless to say, I am done buying Seagate and bought two WD Red 3 TB drives to replace that one and have another just cuz.

You guys arguing that Xbone not having an upgradable hard drive as not a big deal is fine, but if your's does fail, and its certainly possible - it will be a lot bigger PITA then if my PS4 HDD fails.

 

[purbeast0]

I just bought a brand new Seagate 3 TB drive that failed 6 months after purchase. Needless to say, I am done buying Seagate and bought two WD Red 3 TB drives to replace that one and have another just cuz.

You guys arguing that Xbone not having an upgradable hard drive as not a big deal is fine, but if your's does fail, and its certainly possible - it will be a lot bigger PITA then if my PS4 HDD fails.

i am 100% confident that if i get an x1 and my hdd fails, that i will be able to replace it.

i am 100% confident that if i get a ps4 and my hdd fails, that i will be able to replace it.

 

[Imported]

Xbox One uses Wifi Direct as the connection for controllers now opposed to RF 2.4Ghz on the 360 so not compatible at all.

Would suck if my official Forza 4 wheel that cost over $300 no longer worked..

 

[smackababy]

Based upon this article by Microsoft, it appears that Drivatar doesn't attempt to create a moldable AI based on others, but rather based on yourself.

Being that one of my main interests as a software developer is in artificial intelligence, I think it's a really interesting feature.



I think I have around half of my Steam library installed. It isn't because I play them all now, but it allows them to be available when I want to play them. The X1 is a bit different since you can play once you start installing though. That's one change I do like compared to the 360s sit-there-and-do-nothing mechanic. :\

I don't think Drivatar was what they were talking about for the cloud AI. This was in other Forza games as well. You "trained" your avatar and he raced for you. What that really mean was he copied, exactly, what you did on certain types of corners. I know this because as a test, I came to a complete stop, then accelerate through the corner and got a decent score. Then in a race, sure enough, the AI did the exact same thing.

 

[exdeath]

In 20 years, I've never had a mechanical HDD fail either. I guess some people just get lucky.

The fact that a hard drive can only do 100 kbps random access throughput is automatic failure to me, regardless what its in or if its working properly, but that's another story...

 

[American Gunner]

i did not realize that we have another psychic in this thread - AMDZen. apparently my xbox1 hard drive (that i don't even own yet) WILL FAIL! also according to him i WILL RUN OUT OF HDD SPACE!!

remember, this is the psychic that GUARANTEED 100000% that the broncos would DESTROY the ravens last year in the playoffs, and the ravens had no chance!!!

Just ask him how well his NFL playoff prediction worked, I wouldn't worry about what he says or thinks.

 

[ImpulsE69]

That's ridiculous. I've surely had at least a dozen fail in the same period of time. You should enter the lottery and use your hard drive serial numbers as your numbers.

In his defense, I've only ever had 1 of my own HD's fail ever and I did that by frying it when I plugged the power in backwards in my PS2

 

[Anubis]

In 20 years, I've never had a mechanical HDD fail either. I guess some people just get lucky.

thats unheard of
ive lost dozens
hell ive lost 3 in the past 6 months and one of them was under a year old (WD Black)

 

[exdeath]

thats unheard of
ive lost dozens
hell ive lost 3 in the past 6 months and one of them was under a year old (WD Black)

Never had a drive fail either but I was exclusively Cheetah or Raptor since the first 18GB Cheetah X15.

Last HDDs to leave my house were 74GB Raptors that were basically like new and what 8 years old? These were the drives I played WoW on damn near 24/7 for 3 years too.

 

[AMDZen]

Some of you guys are just lucky or don't upgrade HDD's very often. Thats just retarded.

HDD failure rate is at an all time high right now

 

[cmdrdredd]

i am 100% confident that if i get an x1 and my hdd fails, that i will be able to replace it.

i am 100% confident that if i get a ps4 and my hdd fails, that i will be able to replace it.

Difference being, do you have to buy a branded HDD?

 

[smackababy]

Some of you guys are just lucky or don't upgrade HDD's very often. Thats just retarded.

HDD failure rate is at an all time high right now

I will ask again, do you have any real data to back this up?

What does upgrading HDD have to do with failure? In fact, not upgrading would cause you to have more failures one would think. And I have upgraded enough to accomplish what I need. I now have a 6tb NAS and my PC is completely SSD (120gb and 2 256Gb).

 

[AMDZen]

I will ask again, do you have any real data to back this up?

What does upgrading HDD have to do with failure? In fact, not upgrading would cause you to have more failures one would think. And I have upgraded enough to accomplish what I need. I now have a 6tb NAS and my PC is completely SSD (120gb and 2 256Gb).

Literally 2 seconds to google "HDD failure rate"

http://www.pcworld.com/article/129558/article.html

I know because I work in the field and I have experience with HDD failure's all the time. Not to mention I've had several personal HDD's fail in my lifetime.

You are arguing the most retarded thing in the world right now.

 

[smackababy]

Literally 2 seconds to google "HDD failure rate"

http://www.pcworld.com/article/129558/article.html

I know because I work in the field and I have experience with HDD failure's all the time. Not to mention I've had several personal HDD's fail in my lifetime.

You are arguing the most retarded thing in the world right now.

That is from 6 years ago and examines large production systems whose data usage is not nearly typical of the average user.

So, please continue to spout of random garbage as fact and pretend it to be true.

 

[Aikouka]

I just bought a brand new Seagate 3 TB drive that failed 6 months after purchase. Needless to say, I am done buying Seagate and bought two WD Red 3 TB drives to replace that one and have another just cuz.

I run almost every brand, and all of them pretty much fail.

Here are my last failures:
1. Seagate 1.5TB (Had 4% bad sectors and was buzzing like crazy on Monday)
2. WD Caviar Black (5% bad sectors)
3. WD Caviar Green (RMA was bad -- clicked)
4. WD Caviar Green (bad sectors)

Actually, I don't think any of my Hitachi drives have failed. I actually bought those Hitachi drives to replace the WD Caviar Blacks because they're too noisy and they really aren't any better. Although, the one benefit of WD's RMA process is that they tend to upgrade your drive by 500GB each time. I started with a 2TB Caviar Green and ended up with a 3TB at the end.

 

[purbeast0]

Some of you guys are just lucky or don't upgrade HDD's very often. Thats just retarded.

HDD failure rate is at an all time high right now

haha amdzen calling people retarded because they are either lucky or don't upgrade hdds very often. what a dbag.

Difference being, do you have to buy a branded HDD?

no clue, no one knows at this point. but he's acting as if the console is 100% unusable if you have a hard drive failure because there is no way to replace it, which i'm sure won't be the case.

if you think a typical gamer that has a ps3 hdd fail, that they go to microcenter and purchase their own hdd and replace it themself, you are insane. they would take it to whereever they bought it pay a fee to have it replaced, by the place or sony. obviously us here on atot aren't typical gamers, being that we are on a pc tech forum.

 

[AMDZen]

That is from 6 years ago and examines large production systems whose data usage is not nearly typical of the average user.

So, please continue to spout of random garbage as fact and pretend it to be true.

Wow. You have got to be the dumbest individual I've heard from in a long time. If you were to go the the storage forum and just as the question, "Have you had a HDD fail in your lifetime" I would bet nearly everyone who has even a little bit of experience building computers over the last couple decades would say YES.

You are lucky to never have one fail, or most likely you're 16 years old and live in your moms basement and have no real world experience

 

[AMDZen]

haha amdzen calling people retarded because they are either lucky or don't upgrade hdds very often. what a dbag.



no clue, no one knows at this point. but he's acting as if the console is 100% unusable if you have a hard drive failure because there is no way to replace it, which i'm sure won't be the case.

if you think a typical gamer that has a ps3 hdd fail, that they go to microcenter and purchase their own hdd and replace it themself, you are insane. they would take it to whereever they bought it pay a fee to have it replaced, by the place or sony. obviously us here on atot aren't typical gamers, being that we are on a pc tech forum.

How about you go read what I said. I didn't say anything about it not being usable. Wow. You are truly an idiot.

 

[purbeast0]

How about you go read what I said. I didn't say anything about it not being usable. Wow. You are truly an idiot.

show me where microsoft said if an hdd fails that you have to send it to them to have it replaced.

EDIT:

and i said you are "acting as if" it is not useable.

 

[ImpulsE69]

LOL calm down. This is why i said people's home use drives don't necessarily fail. In my 25+ years with PC's I've only ever had 1 of my own HD's fail.

That being said, in my job, I have HD's fail on a daily basis, as well as my work laptop drives failing (which sucks balls).

I have a stack of old HD's with...collected data on them, that isn't essential, but occasionally I might want something off of them, to this day they still work and one is from nearly 15 years ago. (Probably SHOULD migrate all that, but it's the point).

HD failures happen. I would agree if you have to send a console back in this day and age and pay a glutton fee for a rebranded harddrive after spending over $500 on a system..yea, that's kind of BS. Honestly though, I don't think we have all the details yet. Pretty much any HD can be replaced..hell I replaced my Xbox (orig) HD.

*now goes to find a really big piece of wood to knock on*

 

[AMDZen]

show me where microsoft said if an hdd fails that you have to send it to them to have it replaced.

EDIT:

and i said you are "acting as if" it is not useable.

They have confirmed that you cannot upgrade or replace the HDD in an Xbone yourself. Google it, I'm not going to.

How else are you going to get it fixed? Go to Best Buy? Who in turn sends it to MS on your behalf? So you deal with a middleman with the same result and probably add more time to the transaction.

What other scenario are you concocting where you don't have to go to MS to get it replaced?

When you had a broken X360 after the RROD fiasco, did you have to send it to MS for a replacement or was there a magic X360 bunny that came to your house and did it for you?

 

[purbeast0]

They have confirmed that you cannot upgrade or replace the HDD in an Xbone yourself. Google it, I'm not going to.

How else are you going to get it fixed? Go to Best Buy? Who in turn sends it to MS on your behalf? So you deal with a middleman with the same result and probably add more time to the transaction.

What other scenario are you concocting where you don't have to go to MS to get it replaced?

When you had a broken X360 after the RROD fiasco, did you have to send it to MS for a replacement or was there a magic X360 bunny that came to your house and did it for you?

so you once again are making claims with no links to back them up - gotcha.

when my 360 rrod, i fixed it myself.

 

[cmdrdredd]

haha amdzen calling people retarded because they are either lucky or don't upgrade hdds very often. what a dbag.



no clue, no one knows at this point. but he's acting as if the console is 100% unusable if you have a hard drive failure because there is no way to replace it, which i'm sure won't be the case.

if you think a typical gamer that has a ps3 hdd fail, that they go to microcenter and purchase their own hdd and replace it themself, you are insane. they would take it to whereever they bought it pay a fee to have it replaced, by the place or sony. obviously us here on atot aren't typical gamers, being that we are on a pc tech forum.

The Xbox 360 HDD could be replaced too, it was just that you could only use Microsoft's proprietary one that was overpriced for the size. That is unless you did some type of mod. The PS3 just used a standard 2.5" SATA HDD. I hope it's a standard SATA drive again, for both parties. No reason to lock it down at all really. Just provide a proprietary formatting from the console right?


Here it is... Xbone cannot have HDD replaced by user
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/22/xbox-one-hard-drive-cant-be-replaced-by-users

But you have USB 3.0 for external storage. No idea if you can run the system from the external if the internal goes kaput.

 

[AMDZen]

LOL calm down. This is why i said people's home use drives don't necessarily fail. In my 25+ years with PC's I've only ever had 1 of my own HD's fail.

That being said, in my job, I have HD's fail on a daily basis, as well as my work laptop drives failing (which sucks balls).

I have a stack of old HD's with...collected data on them, that isn't essential, but occasionally I might want something off of them, to this day they still work and one is from nearly 15 years ago. (Probably SHOULD migrate all that, but it's the point).

HD failures happen. I would agree if you have to send a console back in this day and age and pay a glutton fee for a rebranded harddrive after spending over $500 on a system..yea, that's kind of BS. Honestly though, I don't think we have all the details yet. Pretty much any HD can be replaced..hell I replaced my Xbox (orig) HD.

*now goes to find a really big piece of wood to knock on*

We use a few models of certain HP Laptops where I work that have a nearly 100% failure rate on their HDD's. Its not if, its when. Its craziness.

The issue with replacing the HDD on the Xbone will most likely be because of the software already on the HDD and not just an issue where you can't open it up and swap it out. MS doesn't want you doing it because its another DRM / Anti-Pirate measure.

 

[purbeast0]

The Xbox 360 HDD could be replaced too, it was just that you could only use Microsoft's proprietary one that was overpriced for the size. That is unless you did some type of mod. The PS3 just used a standard 2.5" SATA HDD. I hope it's a standard SATA drive again, for both parties. No reason to lock it down at all really. Just provide a proprietary formatting from the console right?

thanks for telling me things i already knew, i appreciate it!

lucky for me the 20gb was big enough to last me since launch! pretty sure that the 500gb drive will be more than enough for me. i have a 500gb drive in my ps3 and it's a waste of empty space. i should have just kept my 60gb hdd in there that came with it.

it's just hilarious how fanboys try to make as many points as they can so their side can "win" the war! WHAT A SOLDIER!!