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The Official Xbox One Thread

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Hmm, no non-HDMI AV output it looks like. My TV only has DVI for digital input, it's still a decent HDTV though. I used to use HDMI-DVI cables with analog audio for things with HDMI, but this has no other AV output.
 
lilrayray69 said:
it looks like an old VCR from the 90's.

Why'd they bother changing the controller design at all?
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Because offering consumers something exactly the same as before, but telling us it won't connect to the new xbox would cause an uproar.

So a slight redesign, and making sure we can only use the new controller, people aren't as mad or mad at all for that matter.
 
tential said:
Because offering consumers something exactly the same as before, but telling us it won't connect to the new xbox would cause an uproar.

So a slight redesign, and making sure we can only use the new controller, people aren't as mad or mad at all for that matter.
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Have they even said anything about old controllers working / not working with the XO? I am still holding out hope I don't have to mod my favorite fightstick again.
 
smackababy said:
Integrated battery just makes sense. The PS3 had them. Oh, but only MS wants us to buy a new controller rather than force us to buy a controller AND a $20 battery pack right? Clearly they are the evil ones.
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As long as they use better batteries. The 360 battery packs died all the time on me, and if I had to buy a new controller every time that happened I'd be furious. Eventually I gave up and just went with AAs.
 
gorcorps said:
As long as they use better batteries. The 360 battery packs died all the time on me, and if I had to buy a new controller every time that happened I'd be furious. Eventually I gave up and just went with AAs.
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Were you using the Charge and Play kit? That cable was notorious for destroying batteries. I use a 3rd party charger that holds 2 battery packs and I have had zero problems with batteries except for one that I left plugged into the console with a Charge and Play. That one no longer holds a charge.
 
smackababy said:
Have they even said anything about old controllers working / not working with the XO? I am still holding out hope I don't have to mod my favorite fightstick again.
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Not yet but think like a business brah. Would you A) let people reuse the controllers they own (I have like 8 I don't even know how), or B) make millions of dollars selling controllers for 50 dollars a pop when they only cost 20 to make or whatever.

If you're an executive, you DEFINITELY take option B, and get your multi million dollar bonus and buy another yacht, lambo, or whatever.

It's been 8 years or however long, people have the spendable cash to spend on the peripherals.

gothamhunter said:
Takeaways:

- Pre-owned fee? That will drive pre-owned prices way down in either that A) no one will buy them since they have to pay an additional fee, or B) they'll get tossed around like nothing if the fee is really small. Group buy this game where we each end up paying $5 guys?
If Sony doesn't do this, they have a huge market gain I feel.

- I want to play video games; thank you for the hour long presentation on how I can watch TV on it.

-Not 360 compatible? Nice job.
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On the video games, just think about it guys for ONE second because I'm tired of hearing IGN talk about this on their lie stream too. E3 is in 19 days. People want their games to be the centerpiece when they present it. E3 is long enough that you get your own personal time to show off your game. No one wants to be the "sideshow" of Xbox One's presentation.

Besides that, this is for the journalists. Journalists don't want everything mashed up into one day. That's only one day of hits to their website. Spread it out, they get more hits. I know everyone is interested in what the games look like, but money makes the world go round. Sorry. Don't think they won't leak more and more tidbits about it too of course. Microsoft wants to keep you interested in the Xbox One until it's released. Not share everything on May 21st, 6 months before the release, and then have nothing new to talk about.

Like I said to smackaboy, it's about the money always.
 
As much as I used to really enjoy my Xbox, the 360 slipped behind the PS3 for me in terms of gameplay. I barely play any games anymore anyway, so I'll likely pass on this and Microsoft's preposterous attempt at changing the business model. The only unfortunate part is that this will be a bestseller anyway...
 
Axon said:
As much as I used to really enjoy my Xbox, the 360 slipped behind the PS3 for me in terms of gameplay. I barely play any games anymore anyway, so I'll likely pass on this and Microsoft's preposterous attempt at changing the business model. The only unfortunate part is that this will be a bestseller anyway...
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I think it's pretty cool. Glad they kept the best controller around, pretty much unchanged. 🙂

MS has been trying to integrate many services into the Xbox since the original, so I don't think anyone should be surprised. Sony and Nintendo have been playing catch-up on these integrations forever, and I don't see this changing.
 
Tom said:
In a world where tvs, dvd players, set top boxes, all have Netflix, etc, as well as media servers built-in, what's the point of this new xbox ?
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Didn't you answer your own question in a sense? In a world where TVs, dvd players, set top boxes, and media servers all share a similar function... wouldn't it be nice to replace that crap with a single box?
 
tential said:
Not yet but think like a business brah. Would you A) let people reuse the controllers they own (I have like 8 I don't even know how), or B) make millions of dollars selling controllers for 50 dollars a pop when they only cost 20 to make or whatever.
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Keep in mind that he's talking about things like wired fight sticks, and not the wireless controllers. Most people probably prefer wireless controllers for most games, but fighter enthusiasts prefer arcade/fight sticks, and a good one is three to four times more expensive than standard controllers.

On that note, I haven't seen anything about wired controller compatibility. However, given the controllers have the same number of buttons (Start and Select have been changed though), it's plausible.
 
American Gunner said:
You get excited for Tech Demo's? Geoff Keighley just tweeted that Don Mattrick confirmed that it is not always on required.
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Tech demos show what is possible. Microsoft showed us how to watch TV cause apparently my devices don't do the same thing already?

Dominato3r said:
They said 15 exclusives for launch year
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I sincerely hope it's not 5 kinect games. Since they force it to be connected always I am betting a lot of it will be focused that way. I hope I am wrong, I really do.
 
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ExarKun333 said:
I think it's pretty cool. Glad they kept the best controller around, pretty much unchanged. 🙂

MS has been trying to integrate many services into the Xbox since the original, so I don't think anyone should be surprised. Sony and Nintendo have been playing catch-up on these integrations forever, and I don't see this changing.
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I used to feel the same way. As I've gotten older, however, I've begun to resent paying for a service that the competitor gives for free. I've also grown to resent anything involving a "subscription" model. We are handing over too much control to these guys. They want us addicted to their systems so we have to pay them. No thanks. The last thing we need is another cell phone data "business model."
 
Aikouka said:
Keep in mind that he's talking about things like wired fight sticks, and not the wireless controllers. Most people probably prefer wireless controllers for most games, but fighter enthusiasts prefer arcade/fight sticks, and a good one is three to four times more expensive than standard controllers.

On that note, I haven't seen anything about wired controller compatibility. However, given the controllers have the same number of buttons (Start and Select have been changed though), it's plausible.
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This. I am more interested in being able to use a 3rd party fightstick that already costs $160, which I have a couple of. Now, I don't have a problem modding it, but I'd rather not have to. I already had to add a PCB for PS3 compatibility, I'd prefer not to have to gut a XO controller to get MS verification AGAIN.

One thing that I am hoping is that with the Mini USB connection, connecting it wired to a PC should not be a problem. The Xbox360 controllers would not connect via the Charge and Play kits to a PC, unless you bought a Windows 360 controller, which was strange.
 
smackababy said:
This. I am more interested in being able to use a 3rd party fightstick that already costs $160, which I have a couple of. Now, I don't have a problem modding it, but I'd rather not have to. I already had to add a PCB for PS3 compatibility, I'd prefer not to have to gut a XO controller to get MS verification AGAIN.

One thing that I am hoping is that with the Mini USB connection, connecting it wired to a PC should not be a problem. The Xbox360 controllers would not connect via the Charge and Play kits to a PC, unless you bought a Windows 360 controller, which was strange.
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a "wired" controller that is "wired" through plug and play is still wireless. it isn't really wired in the sense that data is being sent over usb, it's being sent wirelessly.

the wireless ones for pc required an adapter you plugged into the usb slot on a pc. i actually have one of those around.
 
smackababy said:
This. I am more interested in being able to use a 3rd party fightstick that already costs $160, which I have a couple of. Now, I don't have a problem modding it, but I'd rather not have to. I already had to add a PCB for PS3 compatibility, I'd prefer not to have to gut a XO controller to get MS verification AGAIN.

One thing that I am hoping is that with the Mini USB connection, connecting it wired to a PC should not be a problem. The Xbox360 controllers would not connect via the Charge and Play kits to a PC, unless you bought a Windows 360 controller, which was strange.
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The standard wired USB 360 controllers always worked on PC. The PC just needed the special wireless receiver for the wireless ones. I assume the PS4 will have a couple USB ports, no reason the XBOne shouldn't. In theory you should be able to hook up an arcade stick to USB somehow.
 
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purbeast0 said:
my point exactly. tech demo's don't mean jack shit in real world scenarios as what a game can actually look like.
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They mean exactly what they are meant to represent, not what press decides to write on about them.

IE.
The old man demo, who in their right mind would think that games would have characters with the polygon count and performance that was tailored for the demo of a single head.. (and did hit the theoretical performance of the system.)
 
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