The Official Wii U launch thread

[shady28]

Your second sentence makes me invalidate any defense of the WiiU. You cannot compare system sales from the Wii to equate that to success of the Wiiu at all. Further, you don't judge success of a system based on hardware sales. If you sell no games it doesn't matter.

Educate yourself before you post nonsense.

The #1 Wii title has more sales than the top 9 titles from the PS3 combined.

It's about equal to the same sales as the top 6 Xbox 360 titles combined.

The #1 selling Xbox 360 title sold about as much as the #7 selling Wii title.

~813M Wii titles sold, vs ~697M Xbox 360 titles, and ~606M PS3 titles.

By any of these Metrics, the Wii is the #1 selling console, has all of the top selling titles, and overall has the most titles shipped - all by very wide margins that aren't really up for debate.

And I say this as an XBox 360 owner ( and not a Wii owner ). You can debate a lot of things between consoles but sales numbers with that wide a gap aren't one of them.

Go here and see for yourself :

http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/2/wii/

 

[dagamer34]

Educate yourself before you post nonsense.

The #1 Wii title has more sales than the top 9 titles from the PS3 combined.

It's about equal to the same sales as the top 6 Xbox 360 titles combined.

The #1 selling Xbox 360 title sold about as much as the #7 selling Wii title.

~813M Wii titles sold, vs ~697M Xbox 360 titles, and ~606M PS3 titles.

By any of these Metrics, the Wii is the #1 selling console, has all of the top selling titles, and overall has the most titles shipped - all by very wide margins that aren't really up for debate.

And I say this as an XBox 360 owner ( and not a Wii owner ). You can debate a lot of things between consoles but sales numbers with that wide a gap aren't one of them.

Go here and see for yourself :

http://www.vgchartz.com/platform/2/wii/

Only problem is that at one point or another all of those top games were pack-ins for the console itself. Surely you recognized that?

 

[shady28]

Only problem is that at one point or another all of those top games were pack-ins for the console itself. Surely you recognized that?

Which explains nothing. The top 3 games together are about 100 million units - more than the total number of Wii's sold. Even if you subtracted all of those from the Wii console title total sales (ie implying that every single Wii sold had those 3 titles), the sum of the other titles would still be the #1 title seller. Obviously not every Wii sold withe 3 titles, and the other consoles also have pack-in titles as well.

So now after the 3rd grade math lesson, you're back to square 1. The Wii sold more consoles AND more software than any other console.

 

[Todd33]

Pack-ins and children's trashware. The Wii rocks so hard they killed it years early and replaced it. They had a gimmick that hit a fad for a few years, but ultimately people played Wii sports over and over and the fad died.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Pack-ins and children's trashware. The Wii rocks so hard they killed it years early and replaced it. They had a gimmick that hit a fad for a few years, but ultimately people played Wii sports over and over and the fad died.

This. When Nintendo has an exclusive that makes $250,000,000 in 24 hours tell me. Cause that is what Halo 4 did.

Lifetime sales of games that came free don't get counted as a software sale the same way. Besides they are listing units shipped, not sold off retail shelves.

Also, never quote vgchartz as fact, ever.

 

[reallyscrued]

This. When Nintendo has an exclusive that makes $250,000,000 in 24 hours tell me. Cause that is what Halo 4 did.

Lifetime sales of games that came free don't get counted as a software sale the same way. Besides they are listing units shipped, not sold off retail shelves.

Also, never quote vgchartz as fact, ever.

This is quite a feat...but a few things:

First: The figure is $220 million dollars.

Second: The game cost $100 million to make, with $30 million in marketing costs. I don't think Nintendo spends that much money marketing an entire console, and some movies still don't take that much money to make these days.

If your argument was "swing the biggest, heaviest hammer you can and you'll make the biggest splash", then you've definitely proven your point.

 

[purbeast0]

arguing sales figures and what console "won" last gen is just a stupid ass argument in general and nothing but fanboy talk.

if a console has games you want to play, then buy it. who cares how many other people bought it or that game?

 

[ImpulsE69]

I don't think they are arguing over that. What I see is the usual "OMG it doesn't run off a nuclear reactor and wash my dishes" dialogue that happens every gen.

You have the people who care about gameplay more than graphics/capabilities

And you have the people who care more about graphics than anything else.

The ones being vocal are the latter.

I'm of the first, I actually really enjoyed the Wii, because it had good games, gimmick or not. Sure it had ton of crapware, but you don't buy those, so nothing lost.

I did NOT enjoy the 360 or PS3. Considering I can get most of those games on the PC, both needs are met (on the odd chance there's a game I want). Most of their sales are comprised of CoD games and Halo. When that's all you got....you aren't as impressive as you think you are.

If you are truely concerned about the latest and greatest graphics, get yourself a top end pc and quit bitching.

Time will tell if Nintendo did the right thing or not. They're still doing better than Sega.

 

[Nintendesert]

I'll be honest, I use my PS3 more for streaming Netflix and Amazon Prime along with playing Blu-Rays than anything else. I only own two games that I got on discount and really don't care of Sony lost money on me. I'm not a stock holder.

That's what I don't get, if you don't own stock in Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo, why do you care if they make money hand over fist? Boggles my noggin.

 

[zerocool84]

I'll be honest, I use my PS3 more for streaming Netflix and Amazon Prime along with playing Blu-Rays than anything else. I only own two games that I got on discount and really don't care of Sony lost money on me. I'm not a stock holder.

That's what I don't get, if you don't own stock in Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo, why do you care if they make money hand over fist? Boggles my noggin.

Well because if you just spent hundreds of dollars on a system, you want it to to prosper so they will still make games and applications for it.

 

[shady28]

I was just pointing out that the wii sold more consoles, and more titles, than either the PS 3 or Xbox 360. This in response to an assertion that a console with capabilities similar to last gen models was doomed to fail.


The Wii had similar capabilities to the original Xbox, and did not fail.

And I do not own a Wii, nor a Wii U, and at least for now I dont want to. That might change if MS and Sony drag their feet past early summer on the PS4 and 720.

 

[exdeath]

LOL at all the EBay and Craigslist resellers. Every store I've gone to since launch has had both regular and deluxe versions just sitting three.

 

[waggy]

LOL at all the EBay and Craigslist resellers. Every store I've gone to since launch has had both regular and deluxe versions just sitting three.

yeap. i seen a women grab 5 of them at Walmart (cleared the shelf). She was laughing at how she was going to make a ton off them. she takes off. The Walmart guy brings out another 5 to replace the shelf. I started laughing maybe she will to break even...

I don't see the Wii U doing as well as the wii did. Though it is still going to make a profit. the system for the price just does not impress me.

got both kids DSI 3d Xl's for $99. think the stocker got them mixxed up..

 

[Doppel]

LOL at all the EBay and Craigslist resellers. Every store I've gone to since launch has had both regular and deluxe versions just sitting three.

Yeah I have no problem getting a deluxe now at a store...or I can pay MORE for one on Craigslist lol

 

[BD2003]

Well, look on the bright side. If the Wii U crashes and burns, like it looks it will, they'll start making games for the other consoles. The hardware will be way, way better, and I'm sure they'll adapt just fine.

It'll be a total win for gamers, to not be shackled to shitty nintendo hardware to play great nintendo games.

 

[waggy]

Well, look on the bright side. If the Wii U crashes and burns, like it looks it will, they'll start making games for the other consoles. The hardware will be way, way better, and I'm sure they'll adapt just fine.

It'll be a total win for gamers, to not be shackled to shitty nintendo hardware to play great nintendo games.

while i don't think the wii u will do as well as thew wii. i also don't think they will start making games for other consoles just yet or get out of the hardware side.

The wii was great because it did something new. the games were fun, and it was cheap.

i don't plan on getting one. the wii u looks as if its just a upgraded wii with a neat controller. he games don't look any better. it sure does not seem worth the price tag.

 

[mmntech]

A Neilson study said that the Wii U is the most popular game console for this holiday season. 39% of kids want one and 17% of teens want one. The vast majority of kids and teens said they were more interested in tablets and smart phones, with the iPad being the most popular. Interest in other TV top consoles didn't even figure into the top ten. For handhelds, kids wanted a 3DS or DS in their top ten, teens it was at the bottom of the list. Also, things aren't looking good for the Vita.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/11/22/kids-want-ios-devices-over-consoles-for-christmas

So what does that tell us? Tablets and smartphones are indeed starting to cannibalize conventional gaming. Though whether parents will buy their kids a $500+ tablet or phone is a whole different story. Mind you, stronger interest in personal computers is part of what led to the crash of '83. Parents are more willing to spend the money if it can be used for educational purposes. It should hold Sony and Microsoft's feet to the coals a bit. I expect we'll be seeing working prototypes of Durango and Orbis at CES in January. I'd actually be very surprised if we don't. Final versions likely on sale by this time next year.

As for the Wii U, it's pretty obvious why Nintendo chose to go with a tablet interface. iOS and Android pose a threat to them. They're leeching casual gamers with the allure of low cost, easy to play games. Nintendo has their strong franchises but they're starting to loose a bit of ground to new competition.

 

[BD2003]

Oh I'm sure they'll be dragged kicking and screaming into it. But the writing is on the wall already. The Wii U is as likely to succeed as the Wii would have without Wii sports or fit.

It'll be almost painful to watch its death spiral into irrelevancy over the next 2-3 years. I just hope they can manage the transition to a software only company better than Sega did.

 

[cmdrdredd]

A Neilson study said that the Wii U is the most popular game console for this holiday season. 39% of kids want one and 17% of teens want one. The vast majority of kids and teens said they were more interested in tablets and smart phones, with the iPad being the most popular. Interest in other TV top consoles didn't even figure into the top ten. For handhelds, kids wanted a 3DS or DS in their top ten, teens it was at the bottom of the list. Also, things aren't looking good for the Vita.
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2012/11/22/kids-want-ios-devices-over-consoles-for-christmas

So what does that tell us? Tablets and smartphones are indeed starting to cannibalize conventional gaming. Though whether parents will buy their kids a $500+ tablet or phone is a whole different story. Mind you, stronger interest in personal computers is part of what led to the crash of '83. Parents are more willing to spend the money if it can be used for educational purposes. It should hold Sony and Microsoft's feet to the coals a bit. I expect we'll be seeing working prototypes of Durango and Orbis at CES in January. I'd actually be very surprised if we don't. Final versions likely on sale by this time next year.

As for the Wii U, it's pretty obvious why Nintendo chose to go with a tablet interface. iOS and Android pose a threat to them. They're leeching casual gamers with the allure of low cost, easy to play games. Nintendo has their strong franchises but they're starting to loose a bit of ground to new competition.

What this tells me is people can do more on a tablet and probably aren't buying it for angry birds star wars. I don't think Microsoft is worried after Halo 4 made them $220mil in 24 hours and CoD selling record numbers time after time with the Xbox version being the best selling of the platforms offering the game. It also helps that Xbox Live is the best online experience for consoles. I do like PSN but it just doesn't offer the same consistency.

arguing sales figures and what console "won" last gen is just a stupid ass argument in general and nothing but fanboy talk.

if a console has games you want to play, then buy it. who cares how many other people bought it or that game?

It shows interest in the platform when you sell a lot of software. If you aren't selling software is says people forgot about the system and it collects dust or the games aren't any good. The Halo 4 proves that the Xbox 360 is not collecting dust (same for CoD sales even if I despise the game) and the games aren't terrible.

Further I got much more gameplay out of my PS3 than either my Xbox or Wii and the WIi got the least. Between Mario Galaxy, DKC, and Zelda there was a lull where my system only got touched to dust it off once a week. That's terrible IMO. My PS3 had many interesting titles to play from God of War, to Uncharted, to Heavy Rain, to Journey. Then many of the multiplatform titles that I didn't get for PC because they were bad ports would be purchased on my PS3 because I prefer the controller. In the meantime my Xbox 360 and Wii collected dust until there was that one game to play. Be it Forza, Gears or War, or Halo.

I was only pointing out that having huge numbers on the first day of a game's release and the game is exclusive shows that people are interested in your product. The Wii never had numbers like that on day one and if you look at titles that sold well in the first Month Nintendo only has one game in the top ten.

 

[zerocool84]

Well, look on the bright side. If the Wii U crashes and burns, like it looks it will, they'll start making games for the other consoles. The hardware will be way, way better, and I'm sure they'll adapt just fine.

It'll be a total win for gamers, to not be shackled to shitty nintendo hardware to play great nintendo games.

I don't know why anyone would want a system to fail. It makes no sense. I'll take as many options for gameplay I can get. The more competition we have, the better they get.

 

[cmdrdredd]

I don't know why anyone would want a system to fail. It makes no sense. I'll take as many options for gameplay I can get. The more competition we have, the better they get.

I know people who want it to fail so they stop using gimmick controllers that allow the developers to push shovelware down our throats just because they feel they have to use the special controller.

 

[BD2003]

I don't know why anyone would want a system to fail. It makes no sense. I'll take as many options for gameplay I can get. The more competition we have, the better they get.

Each of those options costs hundreds of dollars and has its own walled garden though. Also takes up a space in my rack, which isn't unlimited.

I'm all for competition, but if the Wii U actually isn't going to compete or at least be as unique as the Wii, its just another hurdle to jump to play those few great Nintendo games.

So yeah, I really do want the Wii U as it is to fail. Something this lame shouldn't succeed, and it should serve as a warning to the rest of the industry.

 

[hans030390]

I've been unable to find them in stock around my area, so I ordered one off eBay. Nice thing is, I paid the same as I would if purchased locally after tax. Shipping was tacked on top of that (and a bit too pricey), but I figure it's a small fee to ensure I got one at launch.

 

[zerocool84]

Each of those options costs hundreds of dollars and has its own walled garden though. Also takes up a space in my rack, which isn't unlimited.

I'm all for competition, but if the Wii U actually isn't going to compete or at least be as unique as the Wii, its just another hurdle to jump to play those few great Nintendo games.

So yeah, I really do want the Wii U as it is to fail. Something this lame shouldn't succeed, and it should serve as a warning to the rest of the industry.

You do realize the same thing was said when the original Wii was first coming out? It's literally just been out. I'm not going to buy it but I'm not going to count them out like we all did like the Wii.

 

[BD2003]

You do realize the same thing was said when the original Wii was first coming out? It's literally just been out. I'm not going to buy it but I'm not going to count them out like we all did like the Wii.

The same thing was said by very few people, but the lines hundreds of people long waiting out in the cold for it (myself included) said otherwise. It was obvious from the very start that the original was something special, many were reevaluating the future of gaming, etc...they were hard to find not for days, weeks, months...but almost two years.

If they had something that magical up their sleeves, we'd have seen it by now. They missed their shot.