The Official PS4 Thread

[sze5003]

I have better speeds than that (not great, but 9+ mbps) and my dl speeds are still trash.

Does your dl speed stay at 9mb on each ps4 speed test? I've noticed I can get 3mb once, 5 the next, and then 2 the next test. So it's not consistent at all. Their servers must not be optimized either, probably still tons of people trying to download all at once. The fact that it does not manage downloads is bad too. It will download a game and an update file at the same time, where it should definately pause the bigger download first, finish the small one, and then continue.

Using a powerline isn't feasible for you guys or would it not work?

You mean Ethernet connection? Many use that but my apartment layout doesn't make it feasable as I would be tripping over it every day and I can't drill holes either.

 

[Zor Prime]

You mean Ethernet connection? Many use that but my apartment layout doesn't make it feasable as I would be tripping over it every day and I can't drill holes either.

Yea it's ethernet interface but you plug the adapters in AC outlets and use the electrical system in the place as the wiring.

 

[sze5003]

Yea it's ethernet interface but you plug the adapters in AC outlets and use the electrical system in the place as the wiring.

Hmm I never heard of that. Maybe I will look into it. Where does it connect to the source though? Is it wireless ? I might give that a try. I'm about to hook up the new router soon.

 

[Zor Prime]

Hmm I never heard of that. Maybe I will look into it. Where does it connect to the source though? Is it wireless ? I might give that a try. I'm about to hook up the new router soon.

Just hook the first adapter into an AC outlet around your router somewhere, run ethernet from the router to adapter #1, then insert adapter #2 into an AC outlet around the other device you want to network.

The electrical wiring in the residence carries the signal, bridged by the adapters. Depending on if the wiring is any good, might get better ping times too. You can get a pair of 200Mbps adapters on Newegg for $30 shipped, probably elsewhere also.

 

[sze5003]

Just hook the first adapter into an AC outlet around your router somewhere, run ethernet from the router to adapter #1, then insert adapter #2 into an AC outlet around the other device you want to network.

The electrical wiring in the residence carries the signal, bridged by the adapters. Depending on if the wiring is any good, might get better ping times too. You can get a pair of 200Mbps adapters on Newegg for $30 shipped, probably elsewhere also.

Thanks for the advice I will definately check it out. If this new router does not help I will return it and buy the powerline adapters. 200Mbs should be fine but I know they have 500Mb ones too.

My wired connection is only around 30mb down/ 8Mb up so they should be good. I wonder if the ps4 will support it. This may be the best solution if it works.

 

[Aikouka]

I wonder if the ps4 will support it.

The PS4 won't even know the difference. The only issue you may run into is interference from power usage on the same lines. That's why some people recommend MoCA (Multimedia over Coax Alliance), which is definitely possible, but since you're in an apartment, you would absolutely need to make the cable company install a filter right before the splitter that goes to your apartment. If you don't, then anyone else using a MoCA adapter that's based on the same area as you might be able to see your traffic. D: You'd also have to ensure the cable company is using a splitter that doesn't filter out higher band signals ( > 2000Mhz I believe).

PowerLine stuff is definitely easier, and it's probably cheaper too. This double pack from ZyXEL is only $70 as of writing. The only issue that I've heard of relates to electrical wiring. If I remember correctly, you can receive awful speeds over PowerLine adapters if the two adapters are on separate 120V lines as American homes have two 120V lines that allows us to have 240V items (dryers, etc.).

EDIT:

To give you an idea, I've been looking into this junk as part of a gift for my mom. I gave her a wireless bridge ages ago, and none of them know how to set it up. So, if anything ever changes or it loses its settings, their devices have no connection. Last time I was up there, their XBOX 360 was about two major dashboard updates behind! D: So, I've been debating running an Ethernet line (doesn't sound pleasant) or using MoCA/PowerLine.

 

[sze5003]

Well the netgear n600 gives a little better speed. I get 8 down and 2.5 up. On subsequent connection tests it shows as much as 9 down, 4 up, then another test I got 11 down. Weird that it fluctuates. Signal stays at around 88-90%.

I'm debating weather to return it tomorrow and go with the powerline adapters instead.

 

[Aikouka]

I'm debating weather to return it tomorrow and go with the powerline adapters instead.

Hmm is it possible that you can temporarily move your PS4 so it's by your router? If you can do that, we might be able to find out if everything is kosher with its wired networking capabilities. That way, you can avoid buying the PowerLine adapters if you don't actually need them. Even though, they may not be a bad purchase regardless as most people probably prefer hardwired networking over wireless.

Although, I would probably want to avoid having a PS4 with broken functionality, but I also wouldn't want to wait for another one. So, if you find out that wired functionality is working fine, it might be worthwhile to talk to Best Buy to see if they'll extend your exchange window until they get new units or something like that.

 

[sze5003]

Hmm is it possible that you can temporarily move your PS4 so it's by your router? If you can do that, we might be able to find out if everything is kosher with its wired networking capabilities. That way, you can avoid buying the PowerLine adapters if you don't actually need them. Even though, they may not be a bad purchase regardless as most people probably prefer hardwired networking over wireless.

Although, I would probably want to avoid having a PS4 with broken functionality, but I also wouldn't want to wait for another one. So, if you find out that wired functionality is working fine, it might be worthwhile to talk to Best Buy to see if they'll extend your exchange window until they get new units or something like that.

Good idea. Did it this morning while my gf was asleep so she would not complain the tv was gone from the other room haha.

Well on WiFi I am getting 100% signal. Speed tests, I did about 4 of them and I get as much as 12.5Mb down, then 9, 11, and back to 12.5 again. One point it went up to 14Mb down.

So I plugged it in to the Ethernet next to my router and speed showed 25Mb on one test, 22, then 15. But for the most part they remained in the upper 20's which is close to my isp provided speed. The ps4 speed tests are based on Sony servers so take that into account too.

So the difference with the new router is it has a stand and feet so I put it on top of my computer desk and moved the tv and PlayStation back to the living room. I get pretty much 100% signal with the router on the desk as opposed to on the floor. Speed on WiFi is around 9-10Mb but still random.

So I checked best buy and they have some 200 mini netgear power Ethernet adapters for $50. I'm thinking to go return this router and use my old one with the powerline adapter I just don't know if it will do me any better.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Good idea. Did it this morning while my gf was asleep so she would not complain the tv was gone from the other room haha.

Well on WiFi I am getting 100% signal. Speed tests, I did about 4 of them and I get as much as 12.5Mb down, then 9, 11, and back to 12.5 again. One point it went up to 14Mb down.

So I plugged it in to the Ethernet next to my router and speed showed 25Mb on one test, 22, then 15. But for the most part they remained in the upper 20's which is close to my isp provided speed. The ps4 speed tests are based on Sony servers so take that into account too.

So the difference with the new router is it has a stand and feet so I put it on top of my computer desk and moved the tv and PlayStation back to the living room. I get pretty much 100% signal with the router on the desk as opposed to on the floor. Speed on WiFi is around 9-10Mb but still random.

So I checked best buy and they have some 200 mini netgear power Ethernet adapters for $50. I'm thinking to go return this router and use my old one with the powerline adapter I just don't know if it will do me any better.

That network test in the PS4 is useless for the most part. It shows me at 3Mbps sometimes but I download at 40Mbps speeds.

 

[sze5003]

because you're buying epson cartridges from a retail store. Buy hte generics mail order and you save 90%

Yeah it could be unreliable. I'm about to make a trip to best buy and see if I can snag the powerline adapters. If they don't work I'll go back and get this router again.

 

[KentState]

Thanks for the advice I will definately check it out. If this new router does not help I will return it and buy the powerline adapters. 200Mbs should be fine but I know they have 500Mb ones too.

My wired connection is only around 30mb down/ 8Mb up so they should be good. I wonder if the ps4 will support it. This may be the best solution if it works.

That's how I get networking to my entertainment system. I have a pair of the Netgear PowerLine adapters. The first one sits in my office and plugs into my wifi router where the cable modem resides. The second sits behind my entertainment system, connected to a 8 port switch which connects to my PS4, PS3, 360 and other devices. I can get around 100Mbps up/down over the power lines in my house.

 

[sze5003]

Picked up a netgear 200 mini powerlines adapter pack. Going to try it and see how well it works if it does.

Edit: well that fixed my issues. I get full 22-25Mb download on the speed test now using these powerline adapters. I'm glad I returned the router and got these. So my ps4 wireless card is not messed up and neither is the nic card. It's just a matter or interference with the signal wirelessly and the neighbors I suppose.

 

[ManBearPig]

Cool, i'm looking forward to your impressions.

 

[sze5003]

Oh and thanks to Zor Prime and Aikouka for troubleshooting this issue. Really appreciate it, I spent an hour on the phone with Sony yesterday and all they could say was forward ports, try a new router, and try dmz mode. If nothing else works call Comcast.

My isp provides me with 28Mb, sometimes 30Mb depending on the peak. I don't have some gung ho kickass speed package and it's been doing me fine.

These adapters can give me 23-25Mb down/5up and I'm happy.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Oh and thanks to Zor Prime and Aikouka for troubleshooting this issue. Really appreciate it, I spent an hour on the phone with Sony yesterday and all they could say was forward ports, try a new router, and try dmz mode. If nothing else works call Comcast.

My isp provides me with 28Mb, sometimes 30Mb depending on the peak. I don't have some gung ho kickass speed package and it's been doing me fine.

These adapters can give me 23-25Mb down/5up and I'm happy.

Glad to hear. I dont think you need 50Mb or higher speeds for most needs and I would only recommend it for people with multiple game consoles and PCs doing lots of streaming and gaming at the same time. Probably more than the typical home would have.

 

[sze5003]

Glad to hear. I dont think you need 50Mb or higher speeds for most needs and I would only recommend it for people with multiple game consoles and PCs doing lots of streaming and gaming at the same time. Probably more than the typical home would have.

Yeah I'm glad the speeds are better now. I'm just disappointed Sony did not use a dual band card in this system. I could of had it in it's own 5.0ghz spectrum away from all the neighbors around me that use 2.4ghz.

 

[Arkaign]

Picked up a netgear 200 mini powerlines adapter pack. Going to try it and see how well it works if it does.

Edit: well that fixed my issues. I get full 22-25Mb download on the speed test now using these powerline adapters. I'm glad I returned the router and got these. So my ps4 wireless card is not messed up and neither is the nic card. It's just a matter or interference with the signal wirelessly and the neighbors I suppose.

Wireless is just a mess with neighbors. It's even worse when you have to support clients in a building chock-full of WAPs/etc. Wired is always preferable.

Those powerline adapters are a good compromise, but be prepared to replace them about once a year on average. I've installed hundreds of them over the years, and perhaps just because of how they work, they are susceptible to sudden failure after a while.

 

[Arkaign]

Yeah I'm glad the speeds are better now. I'm just disappointed Sony did not use a dual band card in this system. I could of had it in it's own 5.0ghz spectrum away from all the neighbors around me that use 2.4ghz.

I forgot, GET THIS in the future, you can also set up and use a 5Ghz wireless bridge for your PS4. It is a small device that has an RJ45 100mbit or Gbit Lan port, and connects that to an existing wireless network.

This thing :

http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Wirel...ords=tew+647ga

Simply awesome. I keep a couple extras with my wireless network info already configured, that way I can easily connect stuff to my wireless network at a high speed, and to the actual device, all it needs is a lan port.

Edit :

http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Wire...0114&sr=8-2&keywords=trendnet+wireless+bridge

You'll want that one for 5Ghz multi-channel. I still get ~75mbit or so from the cheap ones, but it sounds like 2.4Ghz might be a problem for you.

 

[sze5003]

Wireless is just a mess with neighbors. It's even worse when you have to support clients in a building chock-full of WAPs/etc. Wired is always preferable.

Those powerline adapters are a good compromise, but be prepared to replace them about once a year on average. I've installed hundreds of them over the years, and perhaps just because of how they work, they are susceptible to sudden failure after a while.

Yeah its expected but they are quite cheap and can be had online for decent prices. I just had to buy them at best buy so I could use them today otherwise I would order online.

Cmd, you mentioned you have dd-wrt on your linksys router ? I installed it on my e1200 and it dramatically decreased wireless performance. Have you had any of this behavior? It used to work awesome on my wrt54g.

 

[Arkaign]

It simply might have defaulted to some less ideal wireless settings for your area.

Apples/apples testing for wireless would require you having the same settings for channel, encryption, signal power, etc, etc.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yeah its expected but they are quite cheap and can be had online for decent prices. I just had to buy them at best buy so I could use them today otherwise I would order online.

Cmd, you mentioned you have dd-wrt on your linksys router ? I installed it on my e1200 and it dramatically decreased wireless performance. Have you had any of this behavior? It used to work awesome on my wrt54g.

I have dd-wrt on a netgear WNR3500v2. Dd-wrt has a lot of QoS settings and such that can affect the speed of the traffic. I have not gotten too deep into it but I prefer it because it is more stable than the stock firmware.

 

[sze5003]

I forgot, GET THIS in the future, you can also set up and use a 5Ghz wireless bridge for your PS4. It is a small device that has an RJ45 100mbit or Gbit Lan port, and connects that to an existing wireless network.

This thing :

http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Wirel...ords=tew+647ga

Simply awesome. I keep a couple extras with my wireless network info already configured, that way I can easily connect stuff to my wireless network at a high speed, and to the actual device, all it needs is a lan port.

Edit :

http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Wirel...ireless+bridge

You'll want that one for 5Ghz multi-channel. I still get ~75mbit or so from the cheap ones, but it sounds like 2.4Ghz might be a problem for you.

Well since I returned the dual band router I would probably just need the first one you linked. The e1200 is a single band n router. So you just hook your console to that and it gives you the same thing? Or does it have to be hooked to the router and it acts like an extender?

I do like dd-wrt features but I messed with a lot of options in settings and wireless speed never improved so I went back to stock.

 

[Aikouka]

Cmd, you mentioned you have dd-wrt on your linksys router ? I installed it on my e1200 and it dramatically decreased wireless performance. Have you had any of this behavior? It used to work awesome on my wrt54g.

I know with my WNDR3700 that if I didn't enable the Multimedia QoS features, it significantly reduced the wireless-N speed by about 1/3. Normally, I would prefer not enabling QoS stuff, that's why I disabled it in the first place.

So you just hook your console to that and it gives you the same thing? Or does it have to be hooked to the router and it acts like an extender?

You normally have to set them into an AP mode so rather than accepting wireless connections, it will connect to another access point. It also disables DHCP since the main router should be handling that.

 

[avtek21]

Can anyone with a PS4 and good broadband confirm what other people are saying that the Netflix HD is very high quality and nearly BluRay?